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p.13 #1EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
digitalbug30d wrote:
dont think Canon is going to kill off the 1DS mk3 to soon,or the mark4 there is still needs for them
sure ... in the used market.
I can see the 1DIV living on with the 1.3 crop to help sport and wild life shooters.
but as somebody mentioned .... better to bring both lines together if you are Canon.
I can see the 7DII going to the 1.3 sensor size.
dont think Canon is going to kill off the 1DS mk3 to soon,or the mark4 there is still needs for them
sure ... in the used market.
I can see the 1DIV living on with the 1.3 crop to help sport and wild life shooters.
but as somebody mentioned .... better to bring both lines together if you are Canon.
I can see the 7DII going to the 1.3 sensor size.
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:13 AM
p.13 #2EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
sboerup wrote:
$6800? rediculous
In absolute terms yes, but relative to what's available from Canon, I disagree. In real world terms it's much cheaper than 1Ds III was 4 years ago and a much better camera most likely.
$6800? rediculous
In absolute terms yes, but relative to what's available from Canon, I disagree. In real world terms it's much cheaper than 1Ds III was 4 years ago and a much better camera most likely.
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:14 AM
p.13 #3EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
artsupreme wrote:
We'll see. It looks like the 1D X is targeted for the sports shooter and at that price point I think people will be just fine (if not happier) with an old 1DIII or 1DIV for much much less.
As for the 1DS market being targeted with this body I think they missed the mark.....I predict the D800 will be an eye opener for all those who think 1DS'ish specs should cost 7K+
Now, if the announcement had been a midsized 3D body with that same 18MP sensor, 8FPS, 1D'ish AF for 4K then I think they'd have a winner because...Show more →
personally yeah the 3D you mention above, or better even maybe a 6.3fps but 26MP one with 1D AF, small body, etc. for 4k would be something i might be able to go for (and not only that, actually prefer)
so i think they still have some huge gaps
if the D800 releases to rumor, man that has every spec i think i could want in a body (of course who knows how well it works), i do hate nikon UI and the lenses I am not as fond of either though
but if you don't mind a large body the 1D X certainly has the potential to perform radically well and if you can afford it and live with a bit less reach and such
Edited on Oct 18, 2011 at 12:38 AM · View previous versions
kevindar wrote
the price aint gonna fly? this will sell like hot cakes. its cheaper than introductory price of the ds line. will appeal to a very large segment of pro photographers. I will bet you that they cant keep enough in stock for the first year.As for the 1DS market being targeted with this body I think they missed the mark.....I predict the D800 will be an eye opener for all those who think 1DS'ish specs should cost 7K+
Now, if the announcement had been a midsized 3D body with that same 18MP sensor, 8FPS, 1D'ish AF for 4K then I think they'd have a winner because...Show more →
personally yeah the 3D you mention above, or better even maybe a 6.3fps but 26MP one with 1D AF, small body, etc. for 4k would be something i might be able to go for (and not only that, actually prefer)
so i think they still have some huge gaps
if the D800 releases to rumor, man that has every spec i think i could want in a body (of course who knows how well it works), i do hate nikon UI and the lenses I am not as fond of either though
but if you don't mind a large body the 1D X certainly has the potential to perform radically well and if you can afford it and live with a bit less reach and such
Edited on Oct 18, 2011 at 12:38 AM · View previous versions
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:16 AM
p.13 #4EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
M Vers wrote:
Not that they would outwardly state they have another high end body up their sleeve still, but I find it very, very difficult to believe Canon will abandon the MP race or just leave it up to the 5-series...unless the 5-series get a big boost on other fronts that is.
An interesting quote form the Canon Australia site:
"Superseding the EOS-1D Mark IV and the EOS-1Ds Mark III, the EOS-1D X is the ultimate tool for all professionals offering both exceptional image quality and unparalleled speed in one camera."
I'm not making claims either way, just posting what Canon have published, but using the word superseding is certainly saying something for the moment. Of course, it doesn't preclude future flagship releases.
Not that they would outwardly state they have another high end body up their sleeve still, but I find it very, very difficult to believe Canon will abandon the MP race or just leave it up to the 5-series...unless the 5-series get a big boost on other fronts that is.
An interesting quote form the Canon Australia site:
"Superseding the EOS-1D Mark IV and the EOS-1Ds Mark III, the EOS-1D X is the ultimate tool for all professionals offering both exceptional image quality and unparalleled speed in one camera."
I'm not making claims either way, just posting what Canon have published, but using the word superseding is certainly saying something for the moment. Of course, it doesn't preclude future flagship releases.
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:16 AM
p.13 #5EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
anorphirith wrote:
The Brenizer method is essentially a form of stitching--I don't think that has anything to do with the new Multiple Exposure capability, which sounds to be more of an exposure merging (HDR). It would be pretty slick if that were possible though..."Four different compositing methods are provided for maximum creative control, including Additive"
it could be DRI or it could be stitching !!
That would be very interesting...
M Vers wrote
anorphirith wrote
I think they mean HDR and also the technique "brenizer method"it could be DRI or it could be stitching !!
That would be very interesting...
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:17 AM
p.13 #6EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
This makes me think the 5D series cameras are going to be the larger megapixel cameras than the 1 series. But then again...
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:18 AM
p.13 #7EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Am I the only one that is happy that they finally put two thumb multi controller joysticks?
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:21 AM
p.13 #8EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
"The newly designed CMOS circuits have also been designed to capture a wider dynamic range, meaning more detail is retained in both shadows and highlights in comparison to previous cameras. "
we will see but that sounds promising
we will see but that sounds promising
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:21 AM
p.13 #9EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
John Mills wrote:
This makes me think the 5D series cameras are going to be the larger megapixel cameras than the 1 series. But then again...
Yes, but with the mediocre AF systems and inferior build I'm not sure there is a lot of value to those pixels unless the subjects are stationary or compose/refocus or manual focus is employed.
EBH
This makes me think the 5D series cameras are going to be the larger megapixel cameras than the 1 series. But then again...
Yes, but with the mediocre AF systems and inferior build I'm not sure there is a lot of value to those pixels unless the subjects are stationary or compose/refocus or manual focus is employed.
EBH
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:22 AM
p.13 #10EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
"EOS System Monitor A new screen on the rear LCD displays the camera's serial number, firmware version and, most interestingly, the number of times the shutter has been fired. The shutter actuations figure increments every 1000 cycles, and goes up to one million."
Built-in shutter count reader!
Built-in shutter count reader!
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:22 AM
p.13 #11EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
skibum5 wrote:
We'll see. It looks like the 1D X is targeted for the sports shooter and at that price point I think people will be just fine (if not happier) with an old 1DIII or 1DIV for much much less.
As for the 1DS market being targeted with this body I think they missed the mark.....I predict the D800 will be an eye opener for all those who think 1DS'ish specs should cost 7K+
Now, if the announcement had been a midsized 3D body with that same 18MP sensor, 8FPS, 1D'ish AF for 4K then I think they'd have a winner because I would buy 2 in a heartbeat and give Canon my 8K...but 7K for that brick with those specs? No way.personally yeah the 3D you mention above, or better even maybe a 6.3fps but 26MP one with 1D AF, small body, etc. for 4k would be something i might be able to go for (and not only that, actually prefer)
so i think they still have some huge gaps
if the D800 releases to rumor, man that has every spec i think i could want in a body (of course who knows how well it works), i do hate nikon UI and the lenses I am not as fond of either though
Nikon for landscape, Canon for action
Yeah, I'm sure 5D III will be much improved over 5D II.
artsupreme wrote
kevindar wrote
the price aint gonna fly? this will sell like hot cakes. its cheaper than introductory price of the ds line. will appeal to a very large segment of pro photographers. I will bet you that they cant keep enough in stock for the first year.As for the 1DS market being targeted with this body I think they missed the mark.....I predict the D800 will be an eye opener for all those who think 1DS'ish specs should cost 7K+
Now, if the announcement had been a midsized 3D body with that same 18MP sensor, 8FPS, 1D'ish AF for 4K then I think they'd have a winner because I would buy 2 in a heartbeat and give Canon my 8K...but 7K for that brick with those specs? No way.
so i think they still have some huge gaps
if the D800 releases to rumor, man that has every spec i think i could want in a body (of course who knows how well it works), i do hate nikon UI and the lenses I am not as fond of either though
Nikon for landscape, Canon for action
Yeah, I'm sure 5D III will be much improved over 5D II.
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:23 AM
p.13 #12EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
"In fact, compared to the regular DIGIC 5 processor, the DIGIC 5+ offers three times faster performance when processing images."
so they are using a different digic than in the cheap P&S this go around, at least for the 1 series
so they are using a different digic than in the cheap P&S this go around, at least for the 1 series
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:24 AM
p.13 #13EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
coranda wrote:
An interesting quote form the Canon Australia site:
"Superseding the EOS-1D Mark IV and the EOS-1Ds Mark III, the EOS-1D X is the ultimate tool for all professionals offering both exceptional image quality and unparalleled speed in one camera."
I'm not making claims either way, just posting what Canon have published, but using the word superseding is certainly saying something for the moment. Of course, it doesn't preclude future flagship releases.
No doubt--even the quote from Check Westfall makes it pretty apparent. That said, there is nothing saying the 1Ds won't be transformed into something else or flat out replaced with an even higher end model. The 1Ds line may be dead, but that doesn't mean there won't be a 1DXs, 1DR etc etc.--That was my point from the get go. There are plenty of photographers out there who will be left craving a very high res DSLR. 1Ds or not, I can't see Canon giving up in this respect.
An interesting quote form the Canon Australia site:
"Superseding the EOS-1D Mark IV and the EOS-1Ds Mark III, the EOS-1D X is the ultimate tool for all professionals offering both exceptional image quality and unparalleled speed in one camera."
I'm not making claims either way, just posting what Canon have published, but using the word superseding is certainly saying something for the moment. Of course, it doesn't preclude future flagship releases.
No doubt--even the quote from Check Westfall makes it pretty apparent. That said, there is nothing saying the 1Ds won't be transformed into something else or flat out replaced with an even higher end model. The 1Ds line may be dead, but that doesn't mean there won't be a 1DXs, 1DR etc etc.--That was my point from the get go. There are plenty of photographers out there who will be left craving a very high res DSLR. 1Ds or not, I can't see Canon giving up in this respect.
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:24 AM
p.13 #14EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
still seems to use old A/D system in the general sense, hopefully the A/D won't kill their DR again and they can somehow get the Sony DR without the Sony column A/D system
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:25 AM
p.13 #15EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
EB-1 wrote:
Yes, but with the mediocre AF systems and inferior build I'm not sure there is a lot of value to those pixels unless the subjects are stationary or compose/refocus or manual focus is employed.
EBH
Well they better do something with the 5DIII or release the 3D because if this ridiculously expensive 1D X is the only FF Canon offering with good AF and decent fps the D800 is going to smash them...
John Mills wrote
This makes me think the 5D series cameras are going to be the larger megapixel cameras than the 1 series. But then again...EBH
Well they better do something with the 5DIII or release the 3D because if this ridiculously expensive 1D X is the only FF Canon offering with good AF and decent fps the D800 is going to smash them...
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:26 AM
p.13 #16EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
"The increased processing power, combined with the improvements in sensor design, has permitted an increase in high ISO performance with a gain of two stops over the EOS-1D Mark IV"
so at least some of the 2 stops better is just fake DNR processing, how much is real then? 1.5 stops? 1 stop? .5 stops?
so at least some of the 2 stops better is just fake DNR processing, how much is real then? 1.5 stops? 1 stop? .5 stops?
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:26 AM
p.13 #17EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
skibum5 wrote:
"The newly designed CMOS circuits have also been designed to capture a wider dynamic range, meaning more detail is retained in both shadows and highlights in comparison to previous cameras. "
This could be monumental.
"The newly designed CMOS circuits have also been designed to capture a wider dynamic range, meaning more detail is retained in both shadows and highlights in comparison to previous cameras. "
This could be monumental.
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:27 AM
p.13 #18EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
sounds like multi-exposure does not mean in cam HDR at all, after all
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:28 AM
p.13 #19EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
supposed to have radically better AWB, doing much better for sunsets and tungsten, for two, they claim
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:29 AM
p.13 #20EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
artsupreme wrote:
Yes, but with the mediocre AF systems and inferior build I'm not sure there is a lot of value to those pixels unless the subjects are stationary or compose/refocus or manual focus is employed.
EBHWell they better do something with the 5DIII or release the 3D because if this ridiculously expensive 1D X is the only FF Canon offering with good AF and decent fps the D800 is going to smash them...
That would be OK too.
EBH
EB-1 wrote
John Mills wrote
This makes me think the 5D series cameras are going to be the larger megapixel cameras than the 1 series. But then again...EBH
That would be OK too.
EBH
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:30 AM