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p.12 #1EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-11666-12012
The Canon EOS-1D X is slated to ship at the end of March 2012. The expected U.S. street price has been set at US$6800, which is about the same as the EOS-1Ds Mark III as it rides off into the sunset, and about US$1800 more than the going rate for an EOS-1D Mark IV. Westfall stresses that the price is preliminary and subject to change before the camera hits store shelves next year, but it does give an indication of the value that Canon thinks they've built into the new camera.
The Canon EOS-1D X is slated to ship at the end of March 2012. The expected U.S. street price has been set at US$6800, which is about the same as the EOS-1Ds Mark III as it rides off into the sunset, and about US$1800 more than the going rate for an EOS-1D Mark IV. Westfall stresses that the price is preliminary and subject to change before the camera hits store shelves next year, but it does give an indication of the value that Canon thinks they've built into the new camera.
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:57 PM
p.12 #2EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Canon:
And its this improvement in image quality that Westfall believes will make the 1D X appeal to 1DS as well as 1D users. 'I think the factor that's going to make that a reality is the noise level is better than anything we've seen before. With cleaner images, people are going to feel much more comfortable up-rezing an image. Not many people need a 21MP file to begin with, so they're going to love the IQ of this camera and the quality's good enough that those people who do need those huge files will find the images clean enough to use them.'
Nikon:
due to demand for more MP we increase to 34MP
hah seems like the two companies are suddenly swapping mantras
weird
And its this improvement in image quality that Westfall believes will make the 1D X appeal to 1DS as well as 1D users. 'I think the factor that's going to make that a reality is the noise level is better than anything we've seen before. With cleaner images, people are going to feel much more comfortable up-rezing an image. Not many people need a 21MP file to begin with, so they're going to love the IQ of this camera and the quality's good enough that those people who do need those huge files will find the images clean enough to use them.'
Nikon:
due to demand for more MP we increase to 34MP
hah seems like the two companies are suddenly swapping mantras
weird
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:00 AM
p.12 #3EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
The following needs further investigation:
"Its 18 megapixel full-frame sensor uses oversized pixels to battle noise"
Oversized?
"Its 18 megapixel full-frame sensor uses oversized pixels to battle noise"
Oversized?
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:00 AM
p.12 #4EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
skibum5 wrote:
it was genius move for them, the 1D people need to buy something and now they have to pay nearer 1Ds prices since the 1Ds (which doesn't sell much anyway) is dead so they lose a few 1Ds sales at huge profit and yet get much bigger profit on 1D sales by calling them combined and thus justifying a price average 
Exactly. If they lose 5% of users to Nikon or S*ny it does not matter because the profits are higher and there is very little competition. Medium format is looking like the best option now in the near-mid term. That is surprising considering that up until recently many of us assumed that 35mm format IQ would increase in the future, given the per pixel results from the D7000 for example.
EBH
kevindar wrote
the price aint gonna fly? this will sell like hot cakes. its cheaper than introductory price of the ds line. will appeal to a very large segment of pro photographers. I will bet you that they cant keep enough in stock for the first year.Exactly. If they lose 5% of users to Nikon or S*ny it does not matter because the profits are higher and there is very little competition. Medium format is looking like the best option now in the near-mid term. That is surprising considering that up until recently many of us assumed that 35mm format IQ would increase in the future, given the per pixel results from the D7000 for example.
EBH
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:01 AM
p.12 #5EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Wow, battery is backward compatible with 1D III/1Ds III, might be good for another 100 shots or so.
And finally
Custom modes:
Up to three camera settings configurations, called custom modes, can be registered and recalled in the EOS-1D X. This feature has been available in several iterations of other Canons, but makes its way to a 1-series model for the first time in the new camera
And finally
Custom modes:
Up to three camera settings configurations, called custom modes, can be registered and recalled in the EOS-1D X. This feature has been available in several iterations of other Canons, but makes its way to a 1-series model for the first time in the new camera
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:01 AM
p.12 #6EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
skibum5 wrote:
Canon:
And its this improvement in image quality that Westfall believes will make the 1D X appeal to 1DS as well as 1D users. 'I think the factor that's going to make that a reality is the noise level is better than anything we've seen before. With cleaner images, people are going to feel much more comfortable up-rezing an image. Not many people need a 21MP file to begin with, so they're going to love the IQ of this camera and the quality's good enough that those people who do need those huge files will find the images clean enough to...Show more →
Yes, let's keep our fingers crossed.
EBH
Canon:
And its this improvement in image quality that Westfall believes will make the 1D X appeal to 1DS as well as 1D users. 'I think the factor that's going to make that a reality is the noise level is better than anything we've seen before. With cleaner images, people are going to feel much more comfortable up-rezing an image. Not many people need a 21MP file to begin with, so they're going to love the IQ of this camera and the quality's good enough that those people who do need those huge files will find the images clean enough to...Show more →
Yes, let's keep our fingers crossed.
EBH
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:02 AM
p.12 #7EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
andy_s wrote:
I'm wondering about the 'Multiple exposure modes'
"The EOS-1D X is the first EOS Digital SLR to feature Multiple Exposure capability. The camera can combine up to nine individual images into a single composite image, with no need for post-processing in a computer. Four different compositing methods are provided for maximum creative control, including Additive, Average, Bright and Dark. Compositing results can be viewed in real time on the camera’s LCD monitor, and there is a one-step Undo command that allows photographers to delete an image and try again if desired. The EOS-1D X’s Multiple Exposure mode even allows photographers to...Show more →
I think they mean HDR and also the technique "brenizer method"
I'm wondering about the 'Multiple exposure modes'
"The EOS-1D X is the first EOS Digital SLR to feature Multiple Exposure capability. The camera can combine up to nine individual images into a single composite image, with no need for post-processing in a computer. Four different compositing methods are provided for maximum creative control, including Additive, Average, Bright and Dark. Compositing results can be viewed in real time on the camera’s LCD monitor, and there is a one-step Undo command that allows photographers to delete an image and try again if desired. The EOS-1D X’s Multiple Exposure mode even allows photographers to...Show more →
I think they mean HDR and also the technique "brenizer method"
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:02 AM
p.12 #8EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Tom K. wrote:
More info at Gizmodo:
http://gizmodo.com/5850747/canon-1d-x-quite-possibly-the-most-epic-dslr-ever
Quote From that review
"Some sample photos I saw from a pre-production model that were shot at ISO 25,600 were ridiculously, ridiculously clean."
It would be nice to see some samples
More info at Gizmodo:
http://gizmodo.com/5850747/canon-1d-x-quite-possibly-the-most-epic-dslr-ever
Quote From that review
"Some sample photos I saw from a pre-production model that were shot at ISO 25,600 were ridiculously, ridiculously clean."
It would be nice to see some samples
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:02 AM
p.12 #9EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Interesting....................
"The 1D X is being marketed to every category of professional photographer, from commercial studio shooters to newspaper photogs."
"The 1D X is being marketed to every category of professional photographer, from commercial studio shooters to newspaper photogs."
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:03 AM
p.12 #10EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Tom K. wrote:
Interesting....................
"The 1D X is being marketed to every category of professional photographer, from commercial studio shooters to newspaper photogs."
A single SKU would be easier to handle than two. Not to mention they can ramp up volume far beyond the 1D4 or 1Ds3 could ever sell for.
The price tag is a tad sharp though at $6800.
Interesting....................
"The 1D X is being marketed to every category of professional photographer, from commercial studio shooters to newspaper photogs."
A single SKU would be easier to handle than two. Not to mention they can ramp up volume far beyond the 1D4 or 1Ds3 could ever sell for.
The price tag is a tad sharp though at $6800.
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:05 AM
p.12 #11EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
carp about just 18mp...but arnt bigger pixels better...
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:06 AM
p.12 #12EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
kevindar wrote:
the price aint gonna fly? this will sell like hot cakes. its cheaper than introductory price of the ds line. will appeal to a very large segment of pro photographers. I will bet you that they cant keep enough in stock for the first year.
We'll see. It looks like the 1D X is targeted for the sports shooter and at that price point I think people will be just fine (if not happier) with an old 1DIII or 1DIV for much much less.
As for the 1DS market being targeted with this body I think they missed the mark.....I predict the D800 will be an eye opener for all those who think 1DS'ish specs should cost 7K+
Now, if the announcement had been a midsized 3D body with that same 18MP sensor, 8FPS, 1D'ish AF for 4K then I think they'd have a winner because I would buy 2 in a heartbeat and give Canon my 8K...but 7K for that brick with those specs? No way.
the price aint gonna fly? this will sell like hot cakes. its cheaper than introductory price of the ds line. will appeal to a very large segment of pro photographers. I will bet you that they cant keep enough in stock for the first year.
We'll see. It looks like the 1D X is targeted for the sports shooter and at that price point I think people will be just fine (if not happier) with an old 1DIII or 1DIV for much much less.
As for the 1DS market being targeted with this body I think they missed the mark.....I predict the D800 will be an eye opener for all those who think 1DS'ish specs should cost 7K+
Now, if the announcement had been a midsized 3D body with that same 18MP sensor, 8FPS, 1D'ish AF for 4K then I think they'd have a winner because I would buy 2 in a heartbeat and give Canon my 8K...but 7K for that brick with those specs? No way.
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:08 AM
p.12 #13EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Tom K. wrote:
The following needs further investigation:
"Its 18 megapixel full-frame sensor uses oversized pixels to battle noise"
Oversized?
wasn't it just three years ago they were dancing in glee because the D700 oversized the pixels and the 5D2 was so much better because it had 21MP?
and didn't tests show that in the entire 6MP-40MP range that photosite size didn't really impact DR/SNR all that much at high iso at lal if you compared things at a normalized, as opposed to false, per pixel level?
more sensible would for them to have said that many sports/pj pros don't want to bother with anything more than 18MP and even that is a lot for them to bother with i'd think
The following needs further investigation:
"Its 18 megapixel full-frame sensor uses oversized pixels to battle noise"
Oversized?
wasn't it just three years ago they were dancing in glee because the D700 oversized the pixels and the 5D2 was so much better because it had 21MP?
and didn't tests show that in the entire 6MP-40MP range that photosite size didn't really impact DR/SNR all that much at high iso at lal if you compared things at a normalized, as opposed to false, per pixel level?
more sensible would for them to have said that many sports/pj pros don't want to bother with anything more than 18MP and even that is a lot for them to bother with i'd think
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:09 AM
p.12 #14EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
anorphirith wrote:
I think they mean HDR and also the technique "brenizer method"
The Brenizer method is essentially a form of stitching--I don't think that has anything to do with the new Multiple Exposure capability, which sounds to be more of an exposure merging (HDR). It would be pretty slick if that were possible though...
I think they mean HDR and also the technique "brenizer method"
The Brenizer method is essentially a form of stitching--I don't think that has anything to do with the new Multiple Exposure capability, which sounds to be more of an exposure merging (HDR). It would be pretty slick if that were possible though...
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:10 AM
p.12 #15EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Well, I think I'm pretty well sold on that one. Loads more info here:
http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/index.do
I've scanned all 10 pages of this thread so sorry if this link has already been posted.
http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/index.do
I've scanned all 10 pages of this thread so sorry if this link has already been posted.
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:11 AM
p.12 #16EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Well, I think I'm pretty well sold on that one. Loads more info here:
http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/index.do
I've scanned all 10 pages of this thread so sorry if this link has already been posted.
http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/index.do
I've scanned all 10 pages of this thread so sorry if this link has already been posted.
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:12 AM
p.12 #17EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
burningheart wrote:
http://gizmodo.com/5850747/canon-1d-x-quite-possibly-the-most-epic-dslr-everQuote From that review
"Some sample photos I saw from a pre-production model that were shot at ISO 25,600 were ridiculously, ridiculously clean."
It would be nice to see some samples
they start off with some major mistakes, this cam has far from the largest photosites in a canon dslr, far from it, the old 1D2 had much larger for one and umm 1Ds2? 1D? 1Ds? 10D? Rebel? etc.
Tom K. wrote
More info at Gizmodo:http://gizmodo.com/5850747/canon-1d-x-quite-possibly-the-most-epic-dslr-ever
"Some sample photos I saw from a pre-production model that were shot at ISO 25,600 were ridiculously, ridiculously clean."
It would be nice to see some samples
they start off with some major mistakes, this cam has far from the largest photosites in a canon dslr, far from it, the old 1D2 had much larger for one and umm 1Ds2? 1D? 1Ds? 10D? Rebel? etc.
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:12 AM
p.12 #18EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
M Vers wrote:
The Brenizer method is essentially a form of stitching--I don't think that has anything to do with the new Multiple Exposure capability, which sounds to be more of an exposure merging (HDR). It would be pretty slick if that were possible though...
"Four different compositing methods are provided for maximum creative control, including Additive"
it could be DRI or it could be stitching !!
anorphirith wrote
I think they mean HDR and also the technique "brenizer method""Four different compositing methods are provided for maximum creative control, including Additive"
it could be DRI or it could be stitching !!
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:12 AM
p.12 #20EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
It will really depend on how good the camera actually performs. If IQ is amazing, AF is superior in every way to 1D IV, plus all the little fixes like dual CF cards, better metering etc then it will be tempting despite lack of reach when FL limited. Otherwise 1D IV will be my next camera unless they next announce a new camera using 1.3x sensor with pro AF.
Oct 18, 2011 at 12:13 AM