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p.11 #1EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Tom K. wrote:
"While the 18-megapixel sensor is a resolution step back from the previous full-frame models, Canon says the reduced resolution was necessary to obtain the sports-level continuous-shooting speeds--one of the primary drivers of the historical separation of the line into two bodies."
Via CNET
it could drive 34MP at 6.3fps (sounding like the rumored D800 spec suddenly) then
of course it's tricky since if it samples and bins for video it can do some things at much more than 18mp and 12fps speed equivalent so other parts of the bandwith probably hold back full images to the 18x12 or 34x6 speeds
"While the 18-megapixel sensor is a resolution step back from the previous full-frame models, Canon says the reduced resolution was necessary to obtain the sports-level continuous-shooting speeds--one of the primary drivers of the historical separation of the line into two bodies."
Via CNET
it could drive 34MP at 6.3fps (sounding like the rumored D800 spec suddenly) then
of course it's tricky since if it samples and bins for video it can do some things at much more than 18mp and 12fps speed equivalent so other parts of the bandwith probably hold back full images to the 18x12 or 34x6 speeds
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:36 PM
p.11 #2EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
"Image sensor and ISO The EOS-1D X's 18.1-megapixel CMOS sensor is the latest from Canon to weight in at about 18MP, but with the promise of dramatically better high ISO quality than any of the company's other 18MP cameras as well as the 16MP EOS-1D Mark IV."
Via Rob Galbraith
Via Rob Galbraith
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:37 PM
p.11 #3EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Pixel Perfect wrote:
Via CNETHmm, I reckon I would have been just as happy with 11/13fps @ 21MP.
C'mon
Tom K. wrote
"While the 18-megapixel sensor is a resolution step back from the previous full-frame models, Canon says the reduced resolution was necessary to obtain the sports-level continuous-shooting speeds--one of the primary drivers of the historical separation of the line into two bodies."Via CNET
C'mon
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:37 PM
p.11 #4EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Pixel Perfect wrote:
"The EOS-1D X is the first EOS Digital SLR to feature Multiple Exposure capability. The camera can combine up to nine individual images into a single composite image, with no need for post-processing in a computer. Four different compositing methods are provided for maximum creative control, including Additive, Average, Bright and Dark. Compositing results can be viewed in real time on the camera’s LCD monitor, and there is a one-step Undo command that allows photographers to delete an image and try again if desired. The EOS-1D X’s Multiple Exposure mode even allows photographers to specify a previously captured RAW image as the starting point for a new Multiple Exposure composite image."
Is this effectively (or exactly) Canon speak for in camera HDR?In the bright and dark mode, it appears like HDR or at least exposure blending, as there is no tone mapping, it's more exposure fusion.
If that's the case - perfect for me!
As an aside, I was reading the rules for National Geographic photo competitions, and they explicitly forbid post HDR post processed images. I wonder what their take on in-camera fused images will be?
andy_s wrote
I'm wondering about the 'Multiple exposure modes'"The EOS-1D X is the first EOS Digital SLR to feature Multiple Exposure capability. The camera can combine up to nine individual images into a single composite image, with no need for post-processing in a computer. Four different compositing methods are provided for maximum creative control, including Additive, Average, Bright and Dark. Compositing results can be viewed in real time on the camera’s LCD monitor, and there is a one-step Undo command that allows photographers to delete an image and try again if desired. The EOS-1D X’s Multiple Exposure mode even allows photographers to specify a previously captured RAW image as the starting point for a new Multiple Exposure composite image."
Is this effectively (or exactly) Canon speak for in camera HDR?
If that's the case - perfect for me!
As an aside, I was reading the rules for National Geographic photo competitions, and they explicitly forbid post HDR post processed images. I wonder what their take on in-camera fused images will be?
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:39 PM
p.11 #5EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
"Canon is naming the body differently too. Rather than calling it the EOS-1D Mark V, thereby carrying on a practice that began when the EOS-1D Mark II came out in 2004, they've broken with that convention and called it simply EOS-1D X. The X, says Canon USA Technical Advisor Chuck Westfall, is meant to suggest three things about the new camera:
X for extreme (X-treme) performance
X for cross-over (X-over), since this represents the merging of Canon's two pro digital SLR cameras, the higher-resolution EOS-1Ds Mark III and higher-performance EOS-1D Mark IV, into a single next-generation model
The Roman numeral X, as in 10, because the EOS-1D X represents the 10th generation of pro-class SLR from Canon since the F-1 debuted in 1971"
Not that they would outwardly state they have another high end body up their sleeve still, but I find it very, very difficult to believe Canon will abandon the MP race or just leave it up to the 5-series...unless the 5-series get a big boost on other fronts that is.
X for extreme (X-treme) performance
X for cross-over (X-over), since this represents the merging of Canon's two pro digital SLR cameras, the higher-resolution EOS-1Ds Mark III and higher-performance EOS-1D Mark IV, into a single next-generation model
The Roman numeral X, as in 10, because the EOS-1D X represents the 10th generation of pro-class SLR from Canon since the F-1 debuted in 1971"
Not that they would outwardly state they have another high end body up their sleeve still, but I find it very, very difficult to believe Canon will abandon the MP race or just leave it up to the 5-series...unless the 5-series get a big boost on other fronts that is.
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:40 PM
p.11 #6EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
"The Canon EOS-1D X is slated to ship at the end of March 2012. The expected U.S. street price has been set at US$6800, which is about the same as the EOS-1Ds Mark III as it rides off into the sunset."
Key phase is "as it rides off into the sunset"
Via Rob G.
Key phase is "as it rides off into the sunset"
Via Rob G.
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:40 PM
p.11 #7EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
maybe an EOS 3D-X is next...sorry had to put it out there.
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:43 PM
p.11 #8EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Review
Well, I guess the lines are merged. Will this drive up prices of the 1D4 since it appears there are no more APS-H 1 series? Unless they make a gripless body (like the 1V) and make it 1.3, or make the next version of the 7D a 1.3 and then keep the 70D (or whatnot) and the Rebel 1.6, I dunno what they will do to fill this void..
As long as it makes the current bodies more affordable for me to upgrade..
Edited on Oct 17, 2011 at 11:48 PM · View previous versions
Well, I guess the lines are merged. Will this drive up prices of the 1D4 since it appears there are no more APS-H 1 series? Unless they make a gripless body (like the 1V) and make it 1.3, or make the next version of the 7D a 1.3 and then keep the 70D (or whatnot) and the Rebel 1.6, I dunno what they will do to fill this void..
As long as it makes the current bodies more affordable for me to upgrade..
Edited on Oct 17, 2011 at 11:48 PM · View previous versions
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:45 PM
p.11 #9EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Looks like a sweet camera....
funny - i just picked up a 1DsII. it is in the same range sensor size.
So basically a redesigned sensor (about 7-8 years of R&D) with a kicking AF and nice menu.
for us wedding shooter - love the 1 button AF sharpness check.
also pick ups the Spot AF and other function like the 7D ... sweetness.
time to save some pennies!!!!
Hope the wife won't be too upset...
This is the camera i am looking for as a wedding shooter.
funny - i just picked up a 1DsII. it is in the same range sensor size.
So basically a redesigned sensor (about 7-8 years of R&D) with a kicking AF and nice menu.
for us wedding shooter - love the 1 button AF sharpness check.
also pick ups the Spot AF and other function like the 7D ... sweetness.
time to save some pennies!!!!
Hope the wife won't be too upset...
This is the camera i am looking for as a wedding shooter.
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:45 PM
p.11 #10EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Via CNET:
"The AF system ratchets up the complexity. Dubbed High Density Reticular AF, it's increased to 61 points, with different configurations depending upon where a point is on the grid. There's a line of 5 crossed diagonal lines in the center, which are sensitive to f2.8; the 21 center lines are paired and sensitive to f5.6 and there are 20 outer points sensitive to f4. The exposure range under which the AF system works has also expanded by 2 stops, one on each end. You can configure the point selection the same as on the 7D. Compulsive microadjusters will now be thrilled that you can profile 2 focal lengths for each zoom lens."
"The AF system ratchets up the complexity. Dubbed High Density Reticular AF, it's increased to 61 points, with different configurations depending upon where a point is on the grid. There's a line of 5 crossed diagonal lines in the center, which are sensitive to f2.8; the 21 center lines are paired and sensitive to f5.6 and there are 20 outer points sensitive to f4. The exposure range under which the AF system works has also expanded by 2 stops, one on each end. You can configure the point selection the same as on the 7D. Compulsive microadjusters will now be thrilled that you can profile 2 focal lengths for each zoom lens."
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:45 PM
p.11 #11EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
dont think Canon is going to kill off the 1DS mk3 to soon,or the mark4 there is still needs for them
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:46 PM
p.11 #12EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
kevindar wrote:
the price aint gonna fly? this will sell like hot cakes. its cheaper than introductory price of the ds line. will appeal to a very large segment of pro photographers. I will bet you that they cant keep enough in stock for the first year.
it was genius move for them, the 1D people need to buy something and now they have to pay nearer 1Ds prices since the 1Ds (which doesn't sell much anyway) is dead. So Canon loses a (relatively speaking) few 1Ds sales at huge profit per copy and yet get much bigger profit on 1D sales now (sales which are much higher) by calling them 1D+1Ds combined and thus justifying a price average
Edited on Oct 18, 2011 at 12:07 AM · View previous versions
the price aint gonna fly? this will sell like hot cakes. its cheaper than introductory price of the ds line. will appeal to a very large segment of pro photographers. I will bet you that they cant keep enough in stock for the first year.
it was genius move for them, the 1D people need to buy something and now they have to pay nearer 1Ds prices since the 1Ds (which doesn't sell much anyway) is dead. So Canon loses a (relatively speaking) few 1Ds sales at huge profit per copy and yet get much bigger profit on 1D sales now (sales which are much higher) by calling them 1D+1Ds combined and thus justifying a price average
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Oct 17, 2011 at 11:47 PM
p.11 #13EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
and they added the CA aberration in cam fix as expected and also the in cam RAW processing as I guessed might be an option, perhaps it's like built in DPP?? who knows, not much detail given
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:50 PM
p.11 #14EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Has anyone seen/read any specs of the Buffer size?
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:50 PM
p.11 #15EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
More info at Gizmodo:
http://gizmodo.com/5850747/canon-1d-x-quite-possibly-the-most-epic-dslr-ever
http://gizmodo.com/5850747/canon-1d-x-quite-possibly-the-most-epic-dslr-ever
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:54 PM
p.11 #16EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
TDP has body layout comparison images up
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-1D-X-Digital-SLR-Camera-Review.aspx
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-1D-X-Digital-SLR-Camera-Review.aspx
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:55 PM
p.11 #17EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
APS-H has to live on, in 7D II or EOS 6D/4D/3D.
I said it years ago when talk of a merger was raised, that the price would have to be nearer 1Ds than 1D. Otherwise you want a substantially better camera for a lot less money and that was never going to happen.
Is it just me or didn't Nikon get criticised for their AF coverage with the 51 point system, as this looks very similar.
Edited on Oct 17, 2011 at 11:56 PM · View previous versions
I said it years ago when talk of a merger was raised, that the price would have to be nearer 1Ds than 1D. Otherwise you want a substantially better camera for a lot less money and that was never going to happen.
Is it just me or didn't Nikon get criticised for their AF coverage with the 51 point system, as this looks very similar.
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Oct 17, 2011 at 11:55 PM
p.11 #18EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Killergoalie wrote:
Has anyone seen/read any specs of the Buffer size?
I would think double what the 1DIV does..
Has anyone seen/read any specs of the Buffer size?
I would think double what the 1DIV does..
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:56 PM
p.11 #19EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
The folks at Planet 5D talked to Chuck Westfall about the 1D - X.
Here is that info:
http://blog.planet5d.com/2011/10/the-new-canon-eos-1d-x-whats-inside-the-nitty-gritty-details-you-wont-get-in-the-press-release/
Here is that info:
http://blog.planet5d.com/2011/10/the-new-canon-eos-1d-x-whats-inside-the-nitty-gritty-details-you-wont-get-in-the-press-release/
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:56 PM
p.11 #20EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
I think the most amazing of this camera is the noise management and the quality and image (dynamic range), and for me are also suficentes 18 Mpx.
It is my next camera ....I hope!
It is my next camera ....I hope!
Oct 17, 2011 at 11:56 PM