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Re: Manual Focus Nikon Glass


MDoc9523 wrote:
rafaelcasd wrote:
Well, to mark the passing of Monty into easy focus and composition, I will take us all the way back to the start of Nikon SLRs and Nikkor lenses. This is the 5cm 1:2 S, not the H or HC, the very first 50mm for Nikon SLR camera back to 1960 or so, there is a fantastic review of it at the link below with a link to a test where you can see it is as sharp as the 50mm 1.8 AFS wide open in the center, the center peaks at 5.6, and the frame gets evenly sharp at 8.0. I bought it for two reasons, just because I can ($70), and to get a special look in my photos, will be using it wide open.

The scale is in feet only, makes it a US model with a valid warranty.
Check this link if interested:
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/11/28/nikkor-s-5cm-12-lens-review.aspx/


Here is the lens on a D3, don't plan to use it on the D800, no point to it. The lens diameter at the aperture ring is small, it fits below the ai tab in my cameras without touching it. More exactly the only part that touches is the hook; instead of removing the hook I mount the lens fully open, which causes the ai tab to engage the hook. The camera believes the fully open lens is set at f/11 not f/2. But I dial in -3.0 compensation and get perfect exposures. Mounted like this the camera tab does not allow the lens to close further than f/8, which is fine by me.
IF YOU TRY THIS, DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK AS ALL LENSES AND CAMERAS ARE DIFFERENT, THIS ONE JUST HAPPENS TO WORK FINE ON MINE. My 20mm 3.5 UD non-ai works in the same manner by the way, but my non-ai 24mm 2.8, 20cm, 50mm 1.4 S, and 5.8cm will not mount.


I am interested in the Nikkor 5.8cm 1.4 Do you happen to have this one?
I don't know why but this lens is one I haven't heard much about and being the lens connoisseur of the thread I thought you may have some thought?



Ray, you are going to get me in trouble with Curtis, here is an excerpt of old postings:

Nikkor 5.8CM, best bokeh of all 'normals'

nikon nikkor 5.8cm 1.4 D800 test 3 by Rafael CA, on Flickr
5.8cm 1.4. This is purely a historical buy, could not resist the combination of price an condition with original filter and shade. To celebrate most of my 'normal' lenses attended a party:
50mm 2.0, 5.8 cm 1,4, 50mm 1.4 SC, 55mm 1.2 ai, 55 mm 1.2 s and 50mm 1.2 ais.


nikon nikkor normal lenses with filters and shades by Rafael CA, on Flickr



nkon nikkor normal lenses coatings front by Rafael CA, on Flickr

Now, here is a test to make sure this 5.8cm lens I just got works. It is very clean inside, cannot see any defects shining a bright light into it. This lens cannot be ai converted without cutting the ring. It has the easiest aperture ring to take off, you just remove a little screw and it screws off without removing the bayonet mount, however I do not want to cut it. It did not mount on my ai cameras, so I removed the aperture ring temporariliy to mount it on the D800 and make sure it is a good sample.

Here is a link to a formal test where they compare it to the 50mm 1.4G
http://www.lenstip.com/114.1-article-50_years_of_Nikon_F-mount_%E2%80%93_Nikkor-S_5.8_cm_f_1.4_vs._Nikkor_AF-S_50_mm_f_1.4G.html


nikon nikkor 5.8cm 1.4 D800 test 2 by Rafael CA, on Flickr
Then tested it while setting the aperture by inserting a little screwdriver in the slide and setting exposure compensation accordingly.

The center is quite sharp at 1.4 and it softens strongly but gracefully to the edges, could be use artistically if I knew how.

It becomes quite sharp and contrasty as you close it down, at F8 the entire frame is excellent, with some curvature of field. This lens has the best bokeh of all the 'normal' nikkor lenses I know. Check the samples and the crop.

At 1.4 , center is very sharp

nikon nikkor 5.8cm 1.4 D800 test 4 by Rafael CA, on Flickr

at ~5.6 to 8.0, the whole frame is quite nice

nikon nikkor 5.8cm 1.4 D800 test f 8 5 by Rafael CA, on Flickr

Check the crop

nikon nikkor 5.8cm 1.4 D800 test f 8 5 crop by Rafael CA, on Flickr

Fully open the bokeh is quite smooth. I don't want to cut it, so it will get very little use until I can get a solution, like the aperture ring from a bad lens that I could use while saving the original.

nikon nikkor 5.8cm 1.4 D800 test 6 by Rafael CA, on Flickr



Feb 17, 2013 at 06:35 PM
rafaelcasd
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Re: Manual Focus Nikon Glass


MDoc9523 wrote:
rafaelcasd wrote:
Well, to mark the passing of Monty into easy focus and composition, I will take us all the way back to the start of Nikon SLRs and Nikkor lenses. This is the 5cm 1:2 S, not the H or HC, the very first 50mm for Nikon SLR camera back to 1960 or so, there is a fantastic review of it at the link below with a link to a test where you can see it is as sharp as the 50mm 1.8 AFS wide open in the center, the center peaks at 5.6, and the frame gets evenly sharp at 8.0. I bought it for two reasons, just because I can ($70), and to get a special look in my photos, will be using it wide open.

The scale is in feet only, makes it a US model with a valid warranty.
Check this link if interested:
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/11/28/nikkor-s-5cm-12-lens-review.aspx/


Here is the lens on a D3, don't plan to use it on the D800, no point to it. The lens diameter at the aperture ring is small, it fits below the ai tab in my cameras without touching it. More exactly the only part that touches is the hook; instead of removing the hook I mount the lens fully open, which causes the ai tab to engage the hook. The camera believes the fully open lens is set at f/11 not f/2. But I dial in -3.0 compensation and get perfect exposures. Mounted like this the camera tab does not allow the lens to close further than f/8, which is fine by me.
IF YOU TRY THIS, DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK AS ALL LENSES AND CAMERAS ARE DIFFERENT, THIS ONE JUST HAPPENS TO WORK FINE ON MINE. My 20mm 3.5 UD non-ai works in the same manner by the way, but my non-ai 24mm 2.8, 20cm, 50mm 1.4 S, and 5.8cm will not mount.


I am interested in the Nikkor 5.8cm 1.4 Do you happen to have this one?
I don't know why but this lens is one I haven't heard much about and being the lens connoisseur of the thread I thought you may have some thought?



Ray, you are getting to get me in trouble with Curtis, here is an excerpt of old postings:

Nikkor 5.8CM, best bokeh of all 'normals'

nikon nikkor 5.8cm 1.4 D800 test 3 by Rafael CA, on Flickr
5.8cm 1.4. This is purely a historical buy, could not resist the combination of price an condition with original filter and shade. To celebrate most of my 'normal' lenses attended a party:
50mm 2.0, 5.8 cm 1,4, 50mm 1.4 SC, 55mm 1.2 ai, 55 mm 1.2 s and 50mm 1.2 ais.


nikon nikkor normal lenses with filters and shades by Rafael CA, on Flickr



nkon nikkor normal lenses coatings front by Rafael CA, on Flickr

Now, here is a test to make sure this 5.8cm lens I just got works. It is very clean inside, cannot see any defects shining a bright light into it. This lens cannot be ai converted without cutting the ring. It has the easiest aperture ring to take off, you just remove a little screw and it screws off without removing the bayonet mount, however I do not want to cut it. It did not mount on my ai cameras, so I removed the aperture ring temporariliy to mount it on the D800 and make sure it is a good sample.

Here is a link to a formal test where they compare it to the 50mm 1.4G
http://www.lenstip.com/114.1-article-50_years_of_Nikon_F-mount_%E2%80%93_Nikkor-S_5.8_cm_f_1.4_vs._Nikkor_AF-S_50_mm_f_1.4G.html


nikon nikkor 5.8cm 1.4 D800 test 2 by Rafael CA, on Flickr
Then tested it while setting the aperture by inserting a little screwdriver in the slide and setting exposure compensation accordingly.

The center is quite sharp at 1.4 and it softens strongly but gracefully to the edges, could be use artistically if I knew how.

It becomes quite sharp and contrasty as you close it down, at F8 the entire frame is excellent, with some curvature of field. This lens has the best bokeh of all the 'normal' nikkor lenses I know. Check the samples and the crop.

At 1.4 , center is very sharp

nikon nikkor 5.8cm 1.4 D800 test 4 by Rafael CA, on Flickr

at ~5.6 to 8.0, the whole frame is quite nice

nikon nikkor 5.8cm 1.4 D800 test f 8 5 by Rafael CA, on Flickr

Check the crop

nikon nikkor 5.8cm 1.4 D800 test f 8 5 crop by Rafael CA, on Flickr

Fully open the bokeh is quite smooth. I don't want to cut it, so it will get very little use until I can get a solution, like the aperture ring from a bad lens that I could use while saving the original.

nikon nikkor 5.8cm 1.4 D800 test 6 by Rafael CA, on Flickr



Feb 17, 2013 at 06:25 PM



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