Home · Register · Join Upload & Sell

Moderated by: Fred Miranda
Username  

  New fredmiranda.com Mobile Site
  New Feature: SMS Notification alert
  New Feature: Buy & Sell Watchlist
  

FM Forums | Leica & Alternative Gear | Join Upload & Sell

  

Archive 2011 · Canon 17-40 vs Oly 21mm f/3.5?

  
 
marko1953
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Canon 17-40 vs Oly 21mm f/3.5?


I have a Canon 17-40 lens and am thinking of getting an Olympus 21mm f/3.5 for landscape/seascapes of the bay and beaches where I live. I have an Olympus 50mm and have been using it on my Canon 5D with adapter. My question is "how much better and in what way will I see any improvements by using the Olympus 21mm lens over the Canon?
I have read good things about the OLY lenses but never seen a direct comparison with Canon lenses. The 17-40 seems a bit soft at the edges with the FF 5D but is otherwise good in respect to colour and contrast. I want to be able to to make big print enlargements.



Feb 28, 2011 at 04:59 AM
ingardj
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Canon 17-40 vs Oly 21mm f/3.5?


Curious as well!


Feb 28, 2011 at 08:55 AM
RustyBug
Offline
• • • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Canon 17-40 vs Oly 21mm f/3.5?


Jim ... interesting comps.

I found my Oly to be more even across the frame vs. my Nikon 20/2.8 AIS, with the Nikon showing better central sharpness.

Re: the Tokina 17 ... how is it with distortion? I think the Tamron 17mm SP can have some mustache going on which has me looking more at the Oly 18mm. Should I be looking harder at the Tokina 17 ??



Feb 28, 2011 at 10:36 AM
brucemuir
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Canon 17-40 vs Oly 21mm f/3.5?


Yea, adapter variation truly sux.

I'm going to get a micrometer to check these from now on.

Wonder if will do any good? ? ?



Feb 28, 2011 at 10:45 AM
jcolwell
Offline
• • • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Canon 17-40 vs Oly 21mm f/3.5?


brucemuir wrote:
Yea, adapter variation truly sux.

I'm going to get a micrometer to check these from now on.

Wonder if will do any good? ? ?


Hi Bruce,

I'm sure that any thickness variation you can measure will have an effect on IQ. OTOH, it might have as much to do with how well the adapter fits on the native mount, as with variations in adapter thickness. I've decided to stick with Leitax for ultra-wide Alts, but I'll only get one after tests with adapters suggest that the lens will be a keeper. I haven't noticed any problems with adapters for 28mm and longer focal lengths. Most of mine are now Fotodiox Pro, but I have a couple of old generic F-mount adapters that work fine. One of them's on my C/Y Distagon 28/2.8, which is a very fine lens.

I can't check the thickness of the F and Oly adapters that I used in the comparison tests, as the F-mount adapter is on a Nikkor 105/2.5 AI that Conner999 is playing with for a few weeks, and the Oly adapter is attached to a 50/1.2 that's waiting for me on a ship.

Jim



Feb 28, 2011 at 11:26 AM
RustyBug
Offline
• • • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Canon 17-40 vs Oly 21mm f/3.5?


Thanks for the quick pics on the distortion ... probably keeps me focused toward the Oly 18 ... although the elevator shot with the Tokina does look tempting.


Feb 28, 2011 at 11:41 AM
mirkoc
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Canon 17-40 vs Oly 21mm f/3.5?


That is very nice comparison jcolwell. Great effort.
How is 17-40 in the corner stopped down to f16? Any better? That Tokina looks very good in my book! Voigtlander looks very nice too. Better than it is said in the reviews.
I wonder how my CSJ Flektogon F4 would look here. I does flare quite a bit but can also be sharp at f16 corner to corner, mustache distortion inclusive. Anyone did any comparison with other contenders?



Feb 28, 2011 at 02:37 PM
Bob955i
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Canon 17-40 vs Oly 21mm f/3.5?


mirkoc wrote:
That is very nice comparison jcolwell. Great effort.
How is 17-40 in the corner stopped down to f16? Any better? That Tokina looks very good in my book! Voigtlander looks very nice too. Better than it is said in the reviews.
I wonder how my CSJ Flektogon F4 would look here. I does flare quite a bit but can also be sharp at f16 corner to corner, mustache distortion inclusive. Anyone did any comparison with other contenders?


No test shots to show you mirkoc but I do have the 17-40, Flek 4/20 and Flek 2.8/20. Here's my findings, based on 5D FF use (from memory and a long time ago):

The corners of my particular 17-40 didn't appear to get much better at f16 IIRC.

1. 17-40 is sharper in centre and more contrasty than either Flek.

2. Both Fleks appeared better corrected than 17-40.

3. Both Fleks overall sharpness appeared more even across frame than 17-40 - bears out 1.

4. Flek 2.8/20 appeared a bit sharper than 4/20 for a given aperture; 4/20 needed stopped down a bit more - say f8 for the 2.8 vs f11 for the 4/20.

5. Flek 2.8/20 appeared to have more contrast than the 4/20; the better contrast likely due to it being MC as opposed to the single coating of the 4/20 - this might explain the flare you note on your 4/20 assuming there's no haze on any of the elements.



Feb 28, 2011 at 02:52 PM
mirkoc
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Canon 17-40 vs Oly 21mm f/3.5?


Bob955i wrote:
No test shots to show you mirkoc but I do have the 17-40, Flek 4/20 and Flek 2.8/20. Here's my findings, based on 5D FF use (from memory and a long time ago):

The corners of my particular 17-40 didn't appear to get much better at f16 IIRC.

1. 17-40 is sharper in centre and more contrasty than either Flek.

2. Both Fleks appeared better corrected than 17-40.

3. Both Fleks overall sharpness appeared more even across frame than 17-40 - bears out 1.

4. Flek 2.8/20 appeared a bit sharper than 4/20 for a given aperture; 4/20 needed stopped down a bit more -
...Show more

Thanks Bob955i!
How would you describe them color wise?
According to reviews 17-40 also seems to be one of the best if not best lens regarding flare and gosting resistance. Distorsion can also be easy corrected via DPP software.
It seems to me that a good copy of 17-40 is a great workhorse. I tried a copy in a local shop and didn't find corners objectionable. On the other hand, I have no experience with other ultra wides.



Feb 28, 2011 at 06:12 PM
Cinstance
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Canon 17-40 vs Oly 21mm f/3.5?


I used to love using ultra-wide Alt lenses, but since DPP added the lens correction function, my preference shifted to Canon wide angle lenses. Wide angle lenses are those benefit most from the lens correction functionality. Sharpness in corner is often overated. What I feel more disruptive to a wide angle image is distortion and CA, without which an image looks tons better. With the software correction, a $700 wide angle lens suddenly is as good as, if not better than some $2000 ones.


Feb 28, 2011 at 07:53 PM





FM Forums | Leica & Alternative Gear | Join Upload & Sell

    
 

You are not logged in. Login or Register

Username       Or Reset password



This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.