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Nice shot Andy. Are all the lenses in your profile MF lenses? Impressive collection.


Jul 09, 2013 at 03:50 AM
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If you're looking for a backstory, Nikon's The Thousand and One Nights (ala Arabian Nights I presume) page has quite a few tales to tell

http://imaging.nikon.com/history/nikkor/



Jul 09, 2013 at 10:29 AM
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Here's a couple from the 55mm micro as a portrait lens from a lazy Sunday at the playground












Jul 09, 2013 at 11:01 AM
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kwoodard wrote:

I kind of have the opposite mindset. I think the pristine ones are fine and beautiful to look at, but its the beaters that tug at me. I would rather have one that looks well used, as long as the glass is clean and the aperture works as it should and it can focus properly, than a brand new one. Why? When I go shooting and lack inspiration, I will think about the lens I am shooting through and what it might have seen in its life. Usually get inspired there. A new lens (of this variety, MF) just
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I'm in this camp too. As long as the glass is clean, and the mechanics works as new, the appearance matters not. I'm impressed at how some pro photographers bang their gear around, not caring at all how it looks. Thom Hogan took a shot of a motor cross bike blasting by him at very close range. It was kicking up dirt and rocks like crazy, delivering 5 direct hits to the glass of his Nikon 14-24mm f/2.8 lens. What did he do? He kept on shooting and then wiped down his lens once done. Amazing. I lost a lot of my gear appearance obsession once I figured out it had nothing to do with photography.

Also, as you said, the history of a lens is told by its bumps and bruises.



Jul 09, 2013 at 12:18 PM
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Kevin, yes all manual focus lens's. Bought a bag of gear from a neighbor who hadn't used it for years. He still had the 28 mounted to his FM2! I love the workmanship and the feel and was really shocked by the performance. When I stumbled on this thread, it kind of fueled the fire, so I bought a few more from guys right here!

Chin- Thanks for the link, exactly what I was looking for. beside using these lens's, it is kind of cool to know why they were made. Why 43-68 zoom for example?

Curtis- thanks for the fellow flower shot, your lighting is also spot on!!! Much to learn for me.

George- love the 16 mm shots, great view of a beautiful place



Jul 09, 2013 at 12:40 PM
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rattymouse wrote:
I'm in this camp too. As long as the glass is clean, and the mechanics works as new, the appearance matters not. I'm impressed at how some pro photographers bang their gear around, not caring at all how it looks. Thom Hogan took a shot of a motor cross bike blasting by him at very close range. It was kicking up dirt and rocks like crazy, delivering 5 direct hits to the glass of his Nikon 14-24mm f/2.8 lens. What did he do? He kept on shooting and then wiped down his lens once done. Amazing. I lost a lot
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Ahh rattymouse, that's exactly what I remind myself with too when using the 14-24mm - Thom Hogan and that motorcross shot! Haha as they say, great minds, great minds



Jul 09, 2013 at 01:22 PM
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I've really been enjoying your work Mark. Who would have thought the 55 micro lens would make a fine portrait lens? And your work with tubes is first rate. Keep em coming...


Jul 09, 2013 at 02:23 PM
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amlsml wrote:
...Curtis- thanks for the fellow flower shot, your lighting is also spot on!!! Much to learn for me...



In bright light I'm using spot metering which with MF lenses requires using the center focusing point. If light is variable on the subject, I'll generally use exposure lock on the brightest area. There is quite a bit of talk about dynamic range in both the D800 and D600 but the D700 is no slouch. It I get even moderately close with metering I typically can create an acceptable image in post. On the occasion of this shoot at Marin Art and Garden Center it was extremely bright, middle of the day bright. Even at f/5.6 on that shot I was at 1/3200th of a second. Here's a yellow flower that took 1/5000th of a second at f/5.6 with the same setup.


Spot metering can be a lifesaver in very bright conditions.



Jul 09, 2013 at 02:32 PM
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Hello all!

I am thinking of getting a 20mm, which, to me, is the widest I want to go without worrying about angles, etc. I had a brief fling with the Rokinon 14mm - enough to realize it was too wide for my tastes/skill set.

Nikon MF lenses at 20mm include 2.8, 3.5, and 4. I think I have read most of the reviews readily available via Google, and have come away with no clear favorite, other than that the 2.8 is much more expensive than the others.

Moving up the focal length ladder, I have lenses in 28, 35, and 50, MF and AF, that are fast, so I am really looking for sharpness and landscape out of this one.

I know you have opinions!

Thanks...

David



Jul 09, 2013 at 02:46 PM
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David, the only one of these that I have seen where I liked the SOOC rendering was the 20/3.5 @ f/5.6. It was an early lens on a D700. I don't remember who posted them or if I saw them here, but I filed that one away in my brain as one to look for. I know, I don't have any hard data, but I specifically remember that I wanted to try the 3.5 if the opportunity presented itself.


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CGrindahl wrote:
I've really been enjoying your work Mark. Who would have thought the 55 micro lens would make a fine portrait lens? And your work with tubes is first rate. Keep em coming...


Thank you Curtis. Between yourself, Kevin and Ronny I am certainly not short of inspiration to keep working with the tubes.
The 55 is an amazing lens and if you're lucky, as I was in the first photo, the bokeh characteristics can be quite successful. It can get a bit jittery if the background is too cluttered, it starts to get this way in the second photo but certainly not too extreme, but as Leighton pointed out to me it's a solid performing landscape lens and obviously it's micro capabilities round out it's usability greatly. I confess it's often replacing the 50mm 1.2 as my walkabout ~50mm (unless I have something specific in mind) at a much lower price.

Briefly on the subject of tubes, does anyone use the M2 tube? It's meant to be designed for the 55mm 3.5 but can it be used with the 2.8?
Thanks.



Jul 09, 2013 at 03:02 PM
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The older tubes have always confused me, in particular, which tubes will mount on a modern DSLR camera. I bought a set of Vivitar tubes intended for Nikon but it wouldn't mount. Then I noticed the set of Vivitar tubes I already owned that mounted without a problem was designated for AI lenses. In the same way a pre-AI lens won't mount without risk of damage, I wonder whether older extension tubes represent the same challenge. I imagine Georg or one of our other more knowledgeable friends will have an answer to your question.

With regard to lenses, I took find myself drawn to 55mm rather than 50 but the lens I turn to is the 55 f/1.2 S.C. AI'd with its scalloped focusing ring. I love shooting with that lens.

Happy shooting Mark.



Jul 09, 2013 at 03:12 PM
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Kevin, it may have been Peter from Madison whose photos you're referring to. He has posted quite a few excellent images with the D600 and 20 f/3.5 AI-s. In terms of value for money that is a great choice. I'm very content with my 20 f/2.8 AI-s which Bjorn gives highest marks to at this focal length. I even got it at a great price, but only as part of a three lens package. I know the price I paid for the 20, a 28 f/2.8 AI-s and a 50 f/1.2 AI-s was great but I'd be guessing if I ascribed a value to any of those three lenses. Sometimes we get lucky. The 20 had the last serial number then listed on photosynthesis so it was a recent purchase by the seller. That made me smile as well.


I appreciate your sentiment about shooting with lenses that wear their history proudly. I was a history major at university and often think in those terms as I encounter the world. But the aesthetic experience of these lenses engages me as well. I started this thread as much because of my appreciation for the craftsmanship of these lenses as their performance. That both are part of the same package is worth celebrating.

Needless to say we have a variety of responses to these lenses. There is no one size fits all. I may love looking at mint condition beautiful lenses, but I love shooting with them too. I think we have a good thing going here.



Jul 09, 2013 at 03:24 PM
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CGrindahl wrote:

Kevin, it may have been Peter from Madison whose photos you're referring to. He has posted quite a few excellent images with the D600 and 20 f/3.5 AI-s. In terms of value for money that is a great choice. I'm very content with my 20 f/2.8 AI-s which Bjorn gives highest marks to at this focal length. I even got it at a great price, but only as part of a three lens package. I know the price I paid for the 20, a 28 f/2.8 AI-s and a 50 f/1.2 AI-s was great but I'd be guessing if I
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Yes! It was Peter... I thought he shot a D700... No matter.

On the subject of early tubes, I want to say the M2 will mount, but not meter properly. I can confirm that tomorrow. The smallest K-tube I believe will also mount. The rest mount like Pre-AI, potential to break stuff. What I have noticed is the AI ring on my D7000 has a little more play in it than my PK13's ring does. I can mount my Pre-AI 35/2.8 directly to my D7000 and the aperture ring slips under it Ok. If I mount to the PK13, it's tight and I have to make sure my aperture changes register (the tab will stay stationary when I increase aperture).



Jul 09, 2013 at 03:39 PM
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Incredible atmosphere, Mark.


Jul 09, 2013 at 03:44 PM
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I do not know whether you mind if I post pictures myself, as I've not been a very communicative member of this thread so far, considering the daily exchange between all the skilled photographers. Sometimes I don't know...

I enjoy posting, I enjoy looking at your pictures... I just cannot reply to everyone, you guys are so fast.

But you can be sure I've recommended this thread to so many people just to look at - the work shown in here is so stunning. Some of you have been taking pictures for ages, since longer ago than when I used to fart into pampers... And it shows you know your business! (I am 35 btw.)

May I dare to show you a few more from my weekend hike in the Swiss alps?


MF glass to the mountain goes ...

After the hike over the pass and a night spent in the alpine hut (SAC) "Piz Terri", we continued a bit more easily.

Plaun la Greina:


Nikon D3 - Nikon 50mm 1:1.2 MF lens
50mm, 1:8, 1/1000, ISO 200, A, Matrix - 1/2




Nikon D3 - Nikon 50mm 1:1.2 MF lens
50mm, 1:11, 1/350, ISO 200, A, Matrix - 1/2



Nikon D3 - Nikon 50mm 1:1.2 MF lens
50mm, 1:8, 1/500, ISO 200, A, Matrix - 1/2



Nikon D3 - Nikon 50mm 1:1.2 MF lens
50mm, 1:16, 1/250, ISO 200, A, Matrix - 1/2



And finally, descending to Blenio, into the wonderful Ticino, the Italian speaking part of Switzerland:


Nikon D3 - Nikon 50mm 1:1.2 MF lens
50mm, 1:16, 1/125, ISO 200, A, Matrix +/- 0



Jul 09, 2013 at 03:58 PM
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Kry27 wrote:

I do not know whether you mind if I post pictures myself, as I've not been a very communicative member of this thread so far, considering the daily exchange between all the skilled photographers. Sometimes I don't know...

I enjoy posting, I enjoy looking at your pictures... I just cannot reply to everyone, you guys are so fast.

But you can be sure I've recommended this thread to so many people just to look at - the work shown in here is so stunning. Some of you have been taking pictures for ages, since longer ago than when I used to fart
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Very nice series Roland. I like this last image the best. That road in the valley looks like a fun bike ride, downhill!



Jul 09, 2013 at 04:17 PM
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designdog wrote:
Hello all!

I am thinking of getting a 20mm, which, to me, is the widest I want to go without worrying about angles, etc. I had a brief fling with the Rokinon 14mm - enough to realize it was too wide for my tastes/skill set.

Nikon MF lenses at 20mm include 2.8, 3.5, and 4. I think I have read most of the reviews readily available via Google, and have come away with no clear favorite, other than that the 2.8 is much more expensive than the others.

Moving up the focal length ladder, I have lenses in 28, 35, and 50, MF
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I own the Rokinon 14mm, and just like you, I find it very special purpose. I love it, but I use the 20mm much more (the 14mm is sharper, much sharper, and probably sharper than any 20mm Nikon ever made).

I only used the f/3.5 and like it a lot. Pretty much covers that focal range for me and I am not planning on ever getting one of the other 20mm lenses. It is so small and light compared to e.g. my 14mm f/2.8 that when I go into the backcountry, the 20mm will always make the cut, while sharper/fancier glass will stay behind due to weight. Another good thing is that I paid $99 plus shipping for it. Seller must have been hating that auction outcome, because it's worth about twice that final auction price.

I've posted dozens of images taken with it this spring - somewhere 200-300 pages ago

examples








a little flare in this one







the lens is also known as the "poor man's fisheye" - I'll never buy the 16mm or any of the circular fisheyes, so I need to cheat with the 20mm (this is a 2x3 stitch of 6 frames)







and one for sharpness - this is handheld, but resting arms on a concrete wall - iso 360 f/8 1/30s







full size here



Jul 09, 2013 at 04:21 PM
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Wow - that first one is just what I am looking for! I would have kept the Rokinon 14, but I realized it would be one of those 3-4 times a year deals. So I bundled up all three of my Rokinons - 14, 35, and 85 and sold them for a Sigma 35 1.4. This is like the adage about a 12 cylinder engine: you have to own one. It will be a shootout between that and my Nikon 28 1.8G.

When I recently evaluated my lens collection, in view of the above, the one that stuck out most for inactivity is my most expensive: the 24-70 2.8G. I just never use it. Prefer the 35/85 combination, or 28/50/105 in MF. I am thinking strongly of parlaying that lens into a Nikon 35 1.4/85 1.4 AI-s combo, giving me all of the classic Nikon AI-s lenses from 28-180mm. (If I want a zoom lens I prefer the 25-50 or the 50-135 AI-s lenses.)

But thank you for that input. I expect to move on the 20mm in a few days.



Jul 09, 2013 at 05:13 PM
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designdog wrote:
Wow - that first one is just what I am looking for! I would have kept the Rokinon 14, but I realized it would be one of those 3-4 times a year deals. So I bundled up all three of my Rokinons - 14, 35, and 85 and sold them for a Sigma 35 1.4..


Interesting how shooting habits are different. A 35mm lens is something I have absolutely no use for - seems to be a focal length I avoid instinctively. Looking at the exif of my 24-85mm from recent months, I think I use it around 24 and at 50 and 85, but rarely anything else.

I have the 14mm and the 85mm Rokinon, yet never even lost a moment of thought on getting the 35mm, but I would like to try the 24mm f/1.4 - it's just too darn expensive for the few times I want to shoot stars. The 20mm would get much more use, as I like wider over faster at that focal range.





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