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p.2239 #1 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass

Ray,
I see you have the 105mm f2.5. Comparing the two - what are your thoughts? Do you find yourself reaching for one over the other, and why?
Thanks
Jim

MDoc9523 wrote:
James Markus wrote:
Can anyone share some 135mm f2.8 ais, and 200mm f4.0 ai images. I'd like to see what they are capable of producing, and compare it to what I am getting. It will determine if I give both focal lengths another try.
Here's one from the 135mm 2.8

Nov 19, 2012 at 11:23 PM

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p.2239 #2 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass

James Markus wrote:
Can anyone share some 135mm f2.8 ais, and 200mm f4.0 ai images. I'd like to see what they are capable of producing, and compare it to what I am getting. It will determine if I give both focal lengths another try.

Here's a few with the 200 f4.0 AI, all wide open. It's a great performer, though when you're psoiled by VR it takes some concentration and practice to get sharp handheld pictures.

Ray

2013 © pbraymond

Nov 19, 2012 at 11:29 PM

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Nov 19, 2012 at 11:33 PM

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p.2239 #4 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass

Ray I really like that last shot of the car ... beautiful!

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Bit of a break from my Scottish shots, this is the kind of thing I normally do.

Shot tonight with a Nikon 50mm f1.2 ai-s at f8 (on D700)

Katseye by Ian_Boys, on Flickr

Nov 19, 2012 at 11:34 PM

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p.2239 #5 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass

deang001 wrote:
rankamateur wrote:
One of the members of my local camera club asked in an email forum about the Costco deal on the D600.(D600- 16-85 and 70-300 I believe) The person who does all equipment reviews answered. "The Nikon D600 needs good glass,not a kit lens. B&H has a complete selection of recent Nikon lenses." He says the same thing about the D800. "you must have the finest latest Nikon glass to take advantage of all the megapixels"

Hi Ron. I would be interested to get your take on this ... what do you think? Are these people talking rubbish?

I just can't see it but perhaps I'm not as picky. When I bought my D800E, the guys in the shop were saying, you will really need to use excellent lenses now ... blah, blah ... but all of my MF and AF lenses work perfectly fine with it and I don't see much of a difference. It seems a ploy to upsell more expensive lenses.

And on the flip side ... I have noticed that lenses like the 50/1.2 & 180/2.8 are actually sharper wide open !!!

I posted this before, but I'd like to use it as a reference to the D800E and the 180 wide open. To me this is actually better than my D700 with the same lens. These older beauties have no issue with increased res. The second is a 100% crop taken wide open from a fair distance away ... I couldn't dream of asking for any better.

I still think 99% of the time this talk of using better lenses is to make us buy more

I used to think the opinion of the folks behind the counter at the pro shops MUST be gospel (after all they must be excellent photogs if they work in the pro shop!?), but these days I've found that most of the time it's complete hogwash - either they just aren't very knowledgeable photographers or their views are totally geared towards selling the inexperienced as much gear as possible.

I have a lot of glass that can't supply more sharpness to my D800's sensor that it can record, but 36MP is the last reason I, and I suspect many others, bought a D800. As many of us know there's much more to most interesting images than the level of sharpness viewed at 100%.

EDIT: Case in point: The posting previous to this one. Who cares if it's totally sharp - it's an excellent image!

John

Nov 19, 2012 at 11:39 PM

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p.2239 #6 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass

jhinkey wrote:
deang001 wrote:
rankamateur wrote:
One of the members of my local camera club asked in an email forum about the Costco deal on the D600.(D600- 16-85 and 70-300 I believe) The person who does all equipment reviews answered. "The Nikon D600 needs good glass,not a kit lens. B&H has a complete selection of recent Nikon lenses." He says the same thing about the D800. "you must have the finest latest Nikon glass to take advantage of all the megapixels"

Hi Ron. I would be interested to get your take on this ... what do you think? Are these people talking rubbish?

I just can't see it but perhaps I'm not as picky. When I bought my D800E, the guys in the shop were saying, you will really need to use excellent lenses now ... blah, blah ... but all of my MF and AF lenses work perfectly fine with it and I don't see much of a difference. It seems a ploy to upsell more expensive lenses.

And on the flip side ... I have noticed that lenses like the 50/1.2 & 180/2.8 are actually sharper wide open !!!

I posted this before, but I'd like to use it as a reference to the D800E and the 180 wide open. To me this is actually better than my D700 with the same lens. These older beauties have no issue with increased res. The second is a 100% crop taken wide open from a fair distance away ... I couldn't dream of asking for any better.

I still think 99% of the time this talk of using better lenses is to make us buy more

Nov 19, 2012 at 11:45 PM

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p.2239 #7 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass

Ian Boys wrote:
Ray I really like that last shot of the car ... beautiful!

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Bit of a break from my Scottish shots, this is the kind of thing I normally do.

Shot tonight with a Nikon 50mm f1.2 ai-s at f8 (on D700)

Katseye by Ian_Boys, on Flickr
I love all your shots. I think I have gone through your entire Flikr account...

Nov 19, 2012 at 11:46 PM

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p.2239 #8 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass

I have been traveling back and forth trying to help my parents out as they are getting older
I haven't been taking my gear as it's too much trouble and don't seem to have the time
So I am going to pickup a mirrorless of some kind and check it out
If it doesn't work out I will be back maybe with a new Nikon

Reagan

Nov 19, 2012 at 11:46 PM

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p.2239 #9 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass

rankamateur wrote:
One of the members of my local camera club asked in an email forum about the Costco deal on the D600.(D600- 16-85 and 70-300 I believe) The person who does all equipment reviews answered. "The Nikon D600 needs good glass,not a kit lens. B&H has a complete selection of recent Nikon lenses." He says the same thing about the D800. "you must have the finest latest Nikon glass to take advantage of all the megapixels"

deang001 wrote:
Hi Ron. I would be interested to get your take on this ... what do you think? Are these people talking rubbish?

I just can't see it but perhaps I'm not as picky. When I bought my D800E, the guys in the shop were saying, you will really need to use excellent lenses now ... blah, blah ... but all of my MF and AF lenses work perfectly fine with it and I don't see much of a difference. It seems a ploy to upsell more expensive lenses.

And on the flip side ... I have noticed that lenses like the 50/1.2 & 180/2.8 are actually sharper wide open !!!

I posted this before, but I'd like to use it as a reference to the D800E and the 180 wide open. To me this is actually better than my D700 with the same lens. These older beauties have no issue with increased res. The second is a 100% crop taken wide open from a fair distance away ... I couldn't dream of asking for any better.

I still think 99% of the time this talk of using better lenses is to make us buy more

jhinkey wrote:
I used to think the opinion of the folks behind the counter at the pro shops MUST be gospel (after all they must be excellent photogs if they work in the pro shop!?), but these days I've found that most of the time it's complete hogwash - either they just aren't very knowledgeable photographers or their views are totally geared towards selling the inexperienced as much gear as possible.

I have a lot of glass that can't supply more sharpness to my D800's sensor that it can record, but 36MP is the last reason I, and I suspect many others, bought a D800. As many of us know there's much more to most interesting images than the level of sharpness viewed at 100%.

EDIT: Case in point: The posting previous to this one. Who cares if it's totally sharp - it's an excellent image!

John

I totally agree John. I went in to our local camera shop to get a lens cap last week and the owner, who by the way, has had the shop for years and years, tried to tell me that his Panasonic FZ200 would out perform the D3 in low light!

Nov 19, 2012 at 11:47 PM

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p.2239 #10 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass

Reagan wrote:
I have been traveling back and forth trying to help my parents out as they are getting older
I haven't been taking my gear as it's too much trouble and don't seem to have the time
So I am going to pickup a mirrorless of some kind and check it out
If it doesn't work out I will be back maybe with a new Nikon

Reagan

You'll be back.

Nov 19, 2012 at 11:49 PM

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p.2239 #11 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass

If it doesn't sell in a week I will keep it and just let Santa bring me the new one
Problem is I have too many priorities that all want my money
6 months till my son graduates college

Reagan

Ray is killing me with those 35 shots
but I would like something smaller

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Nov 19, 2012 at 11:56 PM

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p.2239 #12 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass

Reagan wrote:
If it doesn't sell in a week I will keep it and just let Santa bring me the new one
Problem is I have too many priorities that all want my money
6 months till my son graduates college

Reagan

Oh well, I guess it's time to sell the SS. Just let me know what you want for it.

Nov 19, 2012 at 11:58 PM

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p.2239 #13 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass

James Markus wrote:
Ray,
I see you have the 105mm f2.5. Comparing the two - what are your thoughts? Do you find yourself reaching for one over the other, and why?
Thanks
Jim

MDoc9523 wrote:
James Markus wrote:
Can anyone share some 135mm f2.8 ais, and 200mm f4.0 ai images. I'd like to see what they are capable of producing, and compare it to what I am getting. It will determine if I give both focal lengths another try.
Here's one from the 135mm 2.8

I believe that the 105mm 2.5 is a tad sharper than the 135. I use the 135 more because of the length. I have the 85mm 1.4 That is very close in FL so if I had to choose between the two it would be the 135. However I use a D7000 so the length is around 200mm. Sad to say I don't use the 105 very often. This photo is using the 105
BTW I love your web site. There are some fantastic photos there - well done!

This image is copyrighted by the owner

Nov 20, 2012 at 12:06 AM

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p.2239 #14 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass

Here are some 135 2.8 shots that don't involve GIgantic Butterflies (I don't know where he finds them)
on a D700

The last one really brings out the perfection of the 135

Reagan

NIKON D700 135 mm f/2.8 1/6400 sec 800 ISO 0.0 EV

NIKON D700 135 mm f/2.8 1/200 sec 200 ISO 0.0 EV

NIKON D700 135 mm f/4.0 1/5000 sec 200 ISO 0.0 EV

NIKON D700 135 mm f/5.6 1/1600 sec 200 ISO 0.0 EV

Nov 20, 2012 at 12:12 AM

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Katseye by Ian_Boys, on Flickr

I haven't been able to keep up with all the new people's names but this shot convinced me to delete my ad
I will find another way to get the Fuji Maybe I will sell a bumper
Thanks for posting this

Reagan

Besides I would have nowhere to go on the internet if I wasn't here

Nov 20, 2012 at 12:32 AM

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p.2239 #16 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass

Thanks Ray, Ray & Reagan,
I'm seeing the same thing in your samples that I am getting here at home with my samples of these lenses. Even with contrasty scenes - they seem to rise to the level of "good" to "very good". I want lenses that if focus and sharpness are missed - then all I have to do is looking in the mirror to know where the problem lies. My copy of the 105mm f2.5 ais is way sharper than my 135mm f2.8 ais...and my 180 f2.8 AF is way sharper than the 200 ai. I can live without these two focal lengths. I'm looking to sell some more lenses to fund some acquistions. Something I fear has become a regular practice....always looking to refine the excellent tools I use. (BTW that hub cap is the coolest one I have ever seen) Both of you really helped me to decide - Thanks again!

Edit: Also, thank you for the wonderful comments about my web site.

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Nov 20, 2012 at 12:46 AM

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Really digging this one, Ian!

Ian Boys wrote:

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Bit of a break from my Scottish shots, this is the kind of thing I normally do.

Shot tonight with a Nikon 50mm f1.2 ai-s at f8 (on D700)

Katseye by Ian_Boys, on Flickr

Nov 20, 2012 at 12:50 AM

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p.2239 #18 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass

Reagan, that's some serious bait :-) I really like the lantern-shot. I'm glad you keep your D700.
And as a frequent user of non-DSLR-cameras I can say that there are many quality non-DSLRs out there.

Ian, love your portrait-work as well as your scottish landscapes.
"Katseye" is a wonderful photograph, beautiful and mysterious.

Ray, I'm still in awe about your butterfly-shots!

Ray (from Ohio) - beautiful set! Love the close-up of the classic car.

Nov 20, 2012 at 01:00 AM

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p.2239 #19 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass

James Markus wrote:
Thanks Ray & Reagan,
I'm seeing the same thing in your samples that I am getting here at home with my samples of these lenses. Even with contrasty scenes - they seem to rise to the level of "good" to "very good". I want lenses that if focus and sharpness are missed - then all I have to do is looking in the mirror to know where the problem lies. My copy of the 105mm f2.5 ais is way sharper than my 135mm f2.8 ais...and my 180 f2.8 AF is way sharper than the 200 ai. I can live without these two focal lengths. I'm looking to sell some more lenses to fund some acquistions. Something I fear has become a regular practice....always looking to refine the excellent tools I use. (BTW that hub cap is the coolest one I have ever seen) Both of you really helped me to decide - Thanks again!

I had the 135 and 200 ais and sold them both. The 105 is about the only lens that i haven't sold

I loved the 180 but.......You can't go wrong with the 105 2.5 unless you have the 1.8

Reagan

Ray more 35 1.4 shots please

Nov 20, 2012 at 01:00 AM

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I guess I should have figured out his name was Ian

Reagan

Nov 20, 2012 at 01:02 AM

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