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p.635 #1 · p.635 #1 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Yes just killer stuff one and all...

Check this and all shot with the MM
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/04/16/daily-inspiration-405-by-allen-bourgeois/#comment-244110



Apr 17, 2013 at 04:04 PM
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p.635 #2 · p.635 #2 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Edward, Yeh, it is build well but I guess, if it is Nikon 50mm 1.8G, it will almost like new after this with Hood and cap on . With big focus tab like 50lux ASPH, it is very hard to hold it well and attach to the body. It happens at the moment I want to attach it to the body. I also have to blame there are so many beautiful bikini girls around

Joakim, Sorry about not so please Leica story we mostly hear, hopefully, it can make people more careful changing lens in field, especially Ron!

Joe, thanks for your kind comments. All those 21mm shot are shooting from hip and crop to 28-35mm focal length.

Allen, Very nice! Congratulation! It is nice to have a priority to see those photos here earlier than most people. thanks for sharing.

21 Biogon










Apr 17, 2013 at 05:03 PM
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p.635 #3 · p.635 #3 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Michael, good "hip" skills Nice one with the ZM21B. How many lenses did you take on this trip?

A few more from the backyard this evening. First time the temp neared 70F this Spring. Can't wait for it to warm up.






















The dng files are definitely more contrasty out of camera compared to the M9, but the colors need some tweaking. These were WB with a whibal card and mostly accurate as I can recall. However either the M240 brings out more subtlety of the lens color rendering or maybe Leica needs to consider making some adjustments to each lens color balance. With the same white balance setting, the shadows on my 35Cron ASPH was magenta-ish while the 50Cron as greenish. The pics above were adjusted in post.




Apr 18, 2013 at 03:58 AM
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p.635 #4 · p.635 #4 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Awesome color, Joe. To be honest I don't understand all the fuss about the AWB being too warm. I never use AWB, so maybe that's why I don't find it a problem.


Apr 18, 2013 at 04:25 AM
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p.635 #5 · p.635 #5 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Thanks Edward! What is AWB? Lol

The colors on the M240 is on the warm side and I'm still learning and adjusting. I can't correct it with the wb color temp or tint settings in LR4 easily as the shadow tint seem inconsistent, so I'm back to using a white balance card whic works for me. However, Someone needs to tell Leica to provide a few custom white balance memory settings like the other manufacturers....at the moment if you select other WB settings, you can't go back to the custom profile without needing to calibrate again. But for someone who uses AWB and then complain ... I have nothing more to say ..



Apr 18, 2013 at 04:44 AM
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p.635 #6 · p.635 #6 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Dean - great set, love the first two.
Michael - really vibrant colors! Have you done a side by side test with and without the IR filter? I'm curious now...
Joakim - wow, sorry to hear it's taken so long! This is one aspect about Leica that worries me from a professional user perspective. At least in Germany/EU, you can opt for expedited service (for an extra charge), but the equivalent does not exist here...
Joe - my experience with the M9 is that precise WB is lens dependent. For example, the 28 Cron is the odd-lens-out in my Leica lens collection with a noticeable bias towards magenta. The other lenses are more consistent between each other. BTW, I see the same inconsistency with my Canon lens collection.

Re-reading your comment, perhaps it could be firmware related...



Apr 18, 2013 at 04:56 AM
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p.635 #7 · p.635 #7 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


joe88 wrote:
Thanks Edward! What is AWB? Lol

The colors on the M240 is on the warm side and I'm still learning and adjusting. I can't correct it with the wb color temp or tint settings in LR4 easily as the shadow tint seem inconsistent, so I'm back to using a white balance card whic works for me. However, Someone needs to tell Leica to provide a few custom white balance memory settings like the other manufacturers....at the moment if you select other WB settings, you can't go back to the custom profile without needing to calibrate again. But for someone who uses
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To be honest, I was able with a couple of clicks to get very nice WB from several raw files I downloaded online. The color palette is obviously different from the M9, but not necessarily better or worse. Color is always very subjective but I like what I see so far.



Apr 18, 2013 at 05:04 AM
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p.635 #8 · p.635 #8 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Joe, If I haven't get M240 yet is not because of color and profile, but really the budget. I do feel color is very subjective, a different Raw converter or profile can easily change file's look. Most time, people just want match color they used to, which require quite a bit experience to do so.

I brought old 35/50cron, 21biogon and 90Elmarit. and My wife packed 50lux ASPH M for my D700, which is really nice

Ron, TBH, I haven't done any scientific test. I feel the difference might be small that I can't tell if I did not pick right condition and right color to do so. But I notice when shooting black clothe with M9, the color is purplish. So I know the problem is there. How serious is it? I don't know. Also, under full sun, remember my kids play under sun in yellow flower ground I post a while ago, I have really wired color balance which is very hard to correct. one of Bobu's post a while ago coincidentally reinforce my suspicious about M9's IR problem. It could also be just something in my imagination.


For me, there are another reason I want use the IR filter, because of two cron I have are some old silver lens. The silver ring give me problem at some angle. Add black ring definitely help reduce flare in that regards.

90Elmarit

a shot after I drop my 50lux.








Apr 18, 2013 at 06:55 AM
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p.635 #9 · p.635 #9 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Zhangyue, very nice color combination with light blue and strong yellow. The crow adds an interesting element to the composition. This shows that even after you broke the lux, you were still in control


Apr 18, 2013 at 07:31 AM
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p.635 #10 · p.635 #10 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Edwards, Thanks for comments.
The thread seems quieter.

50lux WO








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p.635 #11 · p.635 #11 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Michael, next time pack your camera bags on your own? Both the 90Elmarit and 50Lux shots above are really nice. I like the yellows on the first one.

There seems to be pinkish hue/layer to the M240 color which is hard to get rid off but I'm sure it will be corrected with a firmware update just like the previous Leica cameras. I've seen this light pinkish hue in my pics and also in the prototype samples from the good Dr.'s boat series and others that have been posted everywhere. Even if you look at the new Leica M catalog, you can see some slight reddish/pinkish color cast in some of Jean Gaumy's stunning pics - download the pdf at http://us.leica-camera.com/photography/m_system/m_new/

My quick workaround now is to desaturate, shift hue and increase orange luminance. Seems to work as a quick fix.

Ron, I think the only way to have color and aperture consistency across the entire range of focal length is to get a set of Cine primes, but this is not practical for photography I guess.

See for instance on both of these uncorrected pics, both with the same WB. #1 is 35Cron ASPH #2 50CronV5. The 35Cron has magenta tint on the shadows and 50Cron has a greenish tint. But again, not a difficult fix in post.













Apr 18, 2013 at 05:58 PM
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p.635 #12 · p.635 #12 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


USPS dropped off a box yesterday CV 21 1.8 Ultron. Some initial shots when I picked up my son from Pre-School this afternoon.

Seems to work great on the M240. All of these were shot at f/1.8 with a 3stop ND filter. Coded 21 Elmarit 11134 manually and doesn't look like there is noticeable color shift on the edges. I also did not need to apply lens correction in LR4 and seems to work well. Definitely a keeper lens for me!












at approx 0.7-0.9m distance






at 0.5 MFD using EVF to focus






A few more samples.

































Thanks Ron



Apr 18, 2013 at 06:11 PM
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p.635 #13 · p.635 #13 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Wow, looks like a great lens, Joe. Congratulations. I've read Ron's review and was impressed by the performance.


Apr 18, 2013 at 07:22 PM
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p.635 #14 · p.635 #14 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Joe - congrats on the new lens! Seems to be a great performer. I have not noticed this pinkish hue yet but I have probably only taken 25 shots with my new camera. Must get out this weekend if the weather is good! One thing I quickly noticed with the M240 is the rather limited fast shutter speed compared to my M8. I guess I got used to shooting wide open in daylight withouth using ND filters. 1/8000 is pretty handy sometimes with fast glass....

Michael - sorry to hear about your accident. These things sometimes happen I suppose...



Apr 18, 2013 at 08:05 PM
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p.635 #15 · p.635 #15 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


joe88 wrote:
Michael, next time pack your camera bags on your own? Both the 90Elmarit and 50Lux shots above are really nice. I like the yellows on the first one.

There seems to be pinkish hue/layer to the M240 color which is hard to get rid off but I'm sure it will be corrected with a firmware update just like the previous Leica cameras. I've seen this light pinkish hue in my pics and also in the prototype samples from the good Dr.'s boat series and others that have been posted everywhere. Even if you look at the new Leica M catalog,
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Hi Joe - I see an overall difference in WB tint. For example, the sky in the 35 Cron image is more magenta and there is an overall slightly reddish cast to the image compared to the one with the 50 Cron. This is also what I see on the M9 with the 28 Cron vs. my other Leica lenses.

Glad you like the lens! As I think I commented in my 21mm shootout review, the CV21/1.8 is certainly the best value when you consider how good its performance is, and that other than the CV21/4, is the least expensive. Wide open it rivals the 21 Lux in sharpness and subject isolation while stopped down past f/4, is pretty close to the SEM and ZM21/2.8, if slightly lower in contrast. It's a good multi-purpose lens, without doubt. If I didn't already have the 21 Lux and SEM... The crazy thing is I often go out with both the Lux and SEM in the bag. In theory the CV should replace both, but I'm quite attached to the two Leica lenses, even though I could save about 90% of their cost.



Apr 18, 2013 at 09:02 PM
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p.635 #16 · p.635 #16 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


rscheffler wrote:
In theory the CV should replace both, but I'm quite attached to the two Leica lenses, even though I could save about 90% of their cost.

Make me almost want go out and grab one You have plant the seed in my mind.

21 biogon








Apr 19, 2013 at 12:43 AM
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p.635 #17 · p.635 #17 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Sorry to hear about you 50lux Michael. Leica's service center does great work FWIW. I actually notice some purple in my blacks as well, do you notice a significant improvement with the IR filters?

It is interesting to read about lens colors casts. I had always assumed that the lens were neutral and the white balance finicky, but maybe that assumption was wrong.





Apr 19, 2013 at 03:24 AM
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p.635 #18 · p.635 #18 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


A couple graffiti shots from lunchtime today. I tried JPG with these and it worked out very well. Live view sure helps with framing when using wider lenses. Both with M240 and 21SEM.
















Apr 19, 2013 at 04:44 AM
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p.635 #19 · p.635 #19 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Gary, very nice photos! Did you use the default settings? The output surely looks quite contrasty and saturated.


Apr 19, 2013 at 05:00 AM
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p.635 #20 · p.635 #20 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Andy, I don't want start a internet rumor from here I can only say I 'feel' there is a difference. And look like we all know there is problem there. Just how much it will affect images. who knows.

Gary, I am sure 21SEM can survive the first brick wall torture. Nice color!

A BIF, the same crow. I am waiting for the moment.








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