Since I'm browsing my old 18mm shots to find more reasons to keep it, I came across these two I think I never posted here, but who make me really like the 18 SE.
M8 and 18mm SE. Ricardo Bofill's house in Barcelona. We had a lot of luck walking by the entrance and getting in a conversation with a friendly woman.
She turned out to be his ex wife and was happy to show us around.
His house is an old concrete factory which he bought and build his house and office in.
Think there is a lot of 3D feel in this picture.
Both leica M8 and 18 SE. So more like 24mm.
For people who used both the 24 elmar and 18 super elmar; is the m9/ 24 elmar comparable with the M8/ 18 SE combo in terms of picture quality?
Or maybe more easy to ask, is the 18 SE without the edges comparable with the 24 elmar?
Robert, I think the guy to ask that question is Boris (bobu). While he's getting out of Leica due to the M240's live view implementation, he's worked with both of those and the 21 SEM. If you visit his and Philippe's (philber) trip to Patagonia, he may have some relevant images. Or PM him. BTW, I really love the color image in the previous set. Those above are also very interesting, particularly the interior.
Dexter - thanks. I think there is a difference though. Joe's concern is about lens-induced edge color shift. You seem to be referring to the overall feel of the files vs. the M9. I agree, there is a difference to the M240 files that reminds me of Canon's to some degree, due to an underlying color quality that might be inherent to the camera's color profile. A lot of times Canon files feel too red in underlying tones, and it's difficult to get rid of in some software. It's one reason I liked Canon's DPP RAW converter.
Michael - nice work! This is the first time I've seen such flare with the 28 Cron. Going through the images from this portion of the day, there were a few more with this flare, but most of the time, it was unattractive veiling flare. I find one has to be somewhat cautious with the 28 Cron. If there is sun outside the frame but shining on the front element, there is a fairly good chance for veiling flare. With the 21 SEM I rarely worry about it. It seems to worsen, at least with the lenses I've used, as the focal length increases.
Really like the tree picture Joakim. Great those shapes of the tree with the snow or frost on top!
I asked bobu before indeed about his experiences with the 21 and 18. He told the 24 behaves even better on the M9 than the 18 and is almost on par with the 21. So maybe I should not worry to much.
More to worry if 24mm isn't overkill when u have 18, 28 and 35. And worry about funds
I have to admit I have very limited experience with the 24/3.8.... but it's possible it might be a closer complement to the two SEMs than the 28 Cron, which I find to be the 'odd-lens-out' in my Leica line-up, in respect to rendering and color characteristics. If I'm trying to match up images for consistency across all of the lenses, the 28 Cron is the most unlike the others, though that doesn't mean it's bad. Not at all, which I think you'll agree. And as we've seen here, it has interesting rendering.
rscheffler wrote:
Robert, do you use (and like) the 28 much?
I have to admit I have very limited experience with the 24/3.8.... but it's possible it might be a closer complement to the two SEMs than the 28 Cron, which I find to be the 'odd-lens-out' in my Leica line-up, in respect to rendering and color characteristics. If I'm trying to match up images for consistency across all of the lenses, the 28 Cron is the most unlike the others, though that doesn't mean it's bad. Not at all, which I think you'll agree. And as we've seen here, it has interesting rendering....Show more →
The 28 is my most used lens and I also like it the most of my lenses.
Maybe it pairs good with the 24 since they are quite different in rendering and colors.
In bobu's topic u linked it shows at the end how much he used all lenses, and the 24 was the least used lens because he had the 28 and 21 with him.
The reason I start looking at the 24 is because I liked the FL with the M8 (18mm on M8), and I still have the 24mm finder
But back than I didn't had a 28mm equivalent. I wonder if I would pick it over the 28. To be honest I don't think so... So that might be my awnser
I think I go use it at the store some times and see how it fits me.
The 17 TSE gets even further out of sight this way
Great shots guys Joe, very interesting to see the Typ 240 in action. When it was announced last year, I was certain that I was going to get it immediately when it was released. However I've been doing ridiculously little photography the past year so I'll wait for now - the M9 is more than adequate for my current needs.
rscheffler wrote:
I agree, there is a difference to the M240 files that reminds me of Canon's to some degree, due to an underlying color quality that might be inherent to the camera's color profile. A lot of times Canon files feel too red in underlying tones, and it's difficult to get rid of in some software. It's one reason I liked Canon's DPP RAW converter.
for a moment there I felt that you're a brother from another mother...because I had the same thoughts! ...the reds on the Canon files are just "off" (IMO) and the only software that could mitigate it is Canon's own DPP RAW converter.
Like your picture to. 
...the reds on the Canon files are just "off" (IMO) and the only software that could mitigate it is Canon's own DPP RAW converter.
