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p.588 #1 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

Joan, nice capture with the X2

Ron, great sets with the 21 SEM! Favourite is #5 in the first set

Love the detail and impact of the last set.
Dan, nice candid captures! I have not tried just using base ISO, and pushing the exposure in LR/CS. Interesting!!
Justin, very nice shot!!
Adam, very natural set of flash exposures! This is no easy task

Nov 13, 2012 at 01:10 AM

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p.588 #2 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

A couple winterscapes with 90cron....

Nov 13, 2012 at 02:56 AM

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p.588 #3 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

Nice set. I got to stop looking at this thread - its going to cost me a lot of $$$.

Nov 13, 2012 at 03:23 AM

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p.588 #4 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

adamdewilde wrote:
Thanks Gary and thanks Ron!

Ron, in the third photo it looks like you're doing an engagement shoot for the asian couple. Nice shots BTW..

Haha, interesting you picked up on that... I was in fact photographing them... They're friends and recently married and my GF volunteered me to do some 'couple' photos of to send back to their families.

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More nice pics Ron. The warm light looks great in these photo's. I will be in Munich in December so I may have to check out that spot...

Definitely check it out Gary - it's only a 10 minute walk from the Leica Store.

Be sure to clear some space on your credit card for a lens or two.

http://www.leica-store-muenchen.de/en/photography/photography/kategorie/m-objektive.html Seriously though, with the full VAT refund (PM me for details), it will be in the range of 15-20% below USA/Canada pricing.

Great set and especially love the rendering in the first image. Still can't believe you have snow...

Thanks Michael and Charles!

Doug - I can definitely find banding in ISO 160 images, but typically only when lifting the shadows considerably, though I have also had a few images where it didn't take much to reveal the banding. I still believe the incidence of banding is directly related to the number of images in the buffer and how quickly the images were captured, how 'hard' the camera is working to clear the buffer and whether one is reviewing images while the buffer is clearing. I've done a few tests around these suspicions and can always generate banding by filling the buffer and reviewing images on the camera's display at the same time, therefore I avoid reviewing images until the buffer is clear. Yet, that doesn't completely eliminate banding, at least for me.

Again, the Munich skyline from the Monopteros, but a day later than the previous ones. This one was kind of interesting because a bank of fog was moving in from the east towards the sunset.

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Nov 13, 2012 at 05:09 AM

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p.588 #5 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

Thanks Charles!

Ron, interesting, I'm sure they'll love the shots. Also like your newest 21 SEM shot, atmosphere was great in all those shots.

Gary, good winter set.. That mountain looks familiar.

Nov 13, 2012 at 06:37 AM

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p.588 #6 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

Gary and Ron, nice shots as usual!

From today with M9 + Biogon 35.

For those of you who are worried about the IQ loss of using filters, this was shot through 2 layers of glass, a B+W UV filter, and a tainted car window

Nov 13, 2012 at 11:18 AM

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rscheffler wrote:

Doug - I can definitely find banding in ISO 160 images, but typically only when lifting the shadows considerably, though I have also had a few images where it didn't take much to reveal the banding. I still believe the incidence of banding is directly related to the number of images in the buffer and how quickly the images were captured, how 'hard' the camera is working to clear the buffer and whether one is reviewing images while the buffer is clearing. I've done a few tests around these suspicions and can always generate banding by filling the buffer and reviewing images on the camera's display at the same time, therefore I avoid reviewing images until the buffer is clear. Yet, that doesn't completely eliminate banding, at least for me.

This was my observation as well: filling the buffer then reviewing and/or shooting does it. It gets worse as you increase the ISO...but one thing i noticed is it depends on the card in use. I've mostly used Lexar Gold 400x 16GB in the past and could replicate the banding rather easily...I've stumbled across the Wintec Elite (the silver one) while contemplating on getting an expensive Panasonic Gold SD card.

Bought 2 of the Wintec Elite and used them exclusively for the past month or so...I've gone through hundreds and hundreds of shots with the Wintec and only got TWO images with banding and on high ISO only.

Nov 13, 2012 at 02:30 PM

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p.588 #8 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

I think the M9 prefers slow cards. According to most user accounts 133X cards are the best and don't seem to cause any problems.

Nov 13, 2012 at 02:44 PM

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p.588 #9 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

That could be Edward. I tried a Transcend 16GB UHS-1 card and the banding was terrible. The worst I've ever seen on the M9. I've always used the Transcend 16GB Class 10 cards and my unscientific impression was that it could vary from card to card. I have retired one card permanently because the M9 would always lock up with it (red light kept flashing and the last few images in the buffer would be lost)...

Thanks for the corroborating info Dexter. I've read good things about the Panasonic cards in the M9, just haven't gotten around to trying one.

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Nov 13, 2012 at 07:51 PM

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p.588 #10 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

Wow Ron, I like all the shots you just posted.

So what is the best card to use, I have sandisk cards one always locks up on me in the M9, so my fiance uses it in the NEX5 without problems. And I do get banding as well if I push the images so many stops!

Nov 14, 2012 at 04:43 AM

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p.588 #11 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

Well, like Ron, I am using Transcend 16GB SDHC class 10 cards. They are 133X speed, and I have not seen any banding nor lock ups so far. However, two Sandisk cards were corrupted and became unusable. I am so happy with the Transcend that I bought 4 of them.

This said, I do not push my camera like Ron seems to do. I am always on Single shot mode and rarely take more than 2 shots, but mostly just one, which could explain why I have not been in trouble so far

Nice architecture shots by the way. Love no. 2 and 3.

Nov 14, 2012 at 07:04 AM

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p.588 #12 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

edwardkaraa wrote:
Gary and Ron, nice shots as usual!

From today with M9 + Biogon 35.

For those of you who are worried about the IQ loss of using filters, this was shot through 2 layers of glass, a B+W UV filter, and a tainted car window

Impressive!

Nov 14, 2012 at 09:22 AM

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p.588 #13 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

L9 por Br1GA, en Flickr

Nov 14, 2012 at 10:07 AM

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p.588 #14 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

Thanks Edward, will keep that in mind next time I'm shopping for SD cards!

Nov 14, 2012 at 11:12 AM

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p.588 #15 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

M9+35lux asph
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Nov 14, 2012 at 01:13 PM

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p.588 #16 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

Yeah, the whole banding thing seems to be an uncertain combination of SD card type, number of consecutive shots, image review while the image is writing, and firmware being used.

I've been using the latest firmware (which allegedly deals with some of this) and a SanDisk Extreme Pro 16GB, and I've not noticed any low ISO banding that is an issue, but I may try to find some time to test it with my 16GB Transcend Class 10 cards...or I may just start using the Transcends to be safe. I've been using the SanDisk because it writes a little faster.

I also wonder whether using DNG+jpeg and other more processor intensive camera settings might affect it??

Nov 14, 2012 at 05:10 PM

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p.588 #17 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

Douglas, many people use Sandisk without problems. I must have done something wrong, like turning off the camera while it was still writing the files, or something like that. However, the Transcend cards only cost like 13$ and I can be less careful when shooting with them, and not worry about loosing shots.

Nov 14, 2012 at 05:21 PM

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p.588 #18 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

M9 + Biogon 35

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Nov 14, 2012 at 06:05 PM

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p.588 #19 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

adamdewilde wrote:
Thanks Charles!

Ron, interesting, I'm sure they'll love the shots. Also like your newest 21 SEM shot, atmosphere was great in all those shots.

Gary, good winter set.. That mountain looks familiar.

Thanks Adam - it is Castle Mountain.... More to come.

Nov 14, 2012 at 08:07 PM

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p.588 #20 · Leica M8/M9/X1 Picture Thread

Nice shots, Ron! Wow!

Nov 14, 2012 at 10:29 PM

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