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p.393 #1 · p.393 #1 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Thanks, Steve




Oct 31, 2011 at 11:59 AM
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p.393 #2 · p.393 #2 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Charles, very nice set with the 24 Lux. Great colors in the first shot - yellow is usually the weak point of sRGB, but it really looks great here. I also really like #3.

Mike, nice "fish" shots

Ajay, great set from mono lake - #2 & #3 are my favorites.

KL, excellent shots - my favorite is #2.


corposant wrote:
On a side note, Luka, I never would have pegged somebody with a technical background like you to be a fan of such an abstract artist as Kandinsky (assuming those are Kandinskys - they are a bit OOF)...


Yeah Mike, it's Kandinsky (or to be precise an oil reproduction).

Engineers being interested in art is unusual in general I guess, but probably not so unusual for people interested in photography. However for somebody in an interested in both engineering and art, I'd say that a fondness for Kandinsky is rather logical. Kandinsky was one of the founders of the Bauhaus school. Their idea of form following function is very compatible with the type of minimalist ideals found in engineering. My whole apartment is actually decorated in Bauhaus style with primarily Le Corbusier furniture and various details (lamps etc) by other Bauhaus designers. So the choice of Kandisky is in that context very conventional.

By the way, I'm sure I don't have to mention this but a Leica M is also an example of Bauhaus design.



Oct 31, 2011 at 12:53 PM
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p.393 #3 · p.393 #3 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Charles, nice set.
Corp, interesting fish kites
Ajay, you are rubbing it in all the more. Adding to Charles and Seekuh's 24lux shots just added to the want list
KL, i like the 1st flare shot of Marinabay Sands
Luka, in my architectural design practice i also go for the "form follows function" principle...though i'm not fond of abstract that much The art that engineering work produces is simply wonderful



Oct 31, 2011 at 02:07 PM
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p.393 #4 · p.393 #4 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Luke - awesome chart!! Thanks for the scientifically accurate response

Edwin - Beautiful pictures of your beautiful daughter!
Ajay - great shots, I like the tree - it looks very 3D. One of the problems I had when I had my 24 lux was wanting to always shoot it wide open
Singletrack--nice shots, always like Singapore pictures!
Charles - I especially like #3



Oct 31, 2011 at 02:42 PM
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p.393 #5 · p.393 #5 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


thanks LL

Paul, very nice set. I like #1 & #4



Oct 31, 2011 at 04:04 PM
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p.393 #6 · p.393 #6 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Paul - Congratulations, firstly on starting an epic thread!
Secondly, I like your #1 and #2



Oct 31, 2011 at 04:27 PM
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p.393 #7 · p.393 #7 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


shtarka1 wrote:
Makten, so sharp & colorful! The 28 cron is keeping me up at night! Time to unload more Nikon gear soon!


Thanks, it's probably the best 28 I've used or seen results from. But on FF I'd choose a 35 mm lens, because it vignettes like hell even on the M8 and the bokeh isn't too nice towards the corners.

Two from today, both wide open. No problem with flare what so ever!


Run by Martin Hertsius, on Flickr


Darkness by Martin Hertsius, on Flickr


I think I'll have to get one of those UV/IR filters though. Especially at low light, magentas are way too pronounced.



Oct 31, 2011 at 08:26 PM
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p.393 #8 · p.393 #8 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Thanks LL, Charles and Steve!

Luka, here is the test you requested (distance about 2m, lifeview on 5DII, focus bracketing on M9, door as a flat test object, shot from tripod, identical settings in LR):

100MP, f/2.0, center:






90AA, f/2.0, center:






100MP, f/2.0, corner:






90AA, f/2.0, corner:






100MP, f/5.6, center:






90AA, f/5.6, center:






100MP, f/5.6, corner:






90AA, f/5.6, corner:






What I see is, that:
- corner sharpness at f/2.0 of the 100MP is significantly better
- center sharpness and microcontrast at f/2.0 of the 100MP is slightly better
- corner sharpness and microcontrast at f/5.6 of the 100MP is slightly better
- center sharpness at f/5.6 is nearly identical, maybe with the slight edge for the 100MP

This could either mean you got a bad copy of the 100MP or I got a bad copy of the 90AA. Since I have to send both Summilux lenses for MFD adjustment to Leica I will probably also send the 90AA to have it checked.

Boris









Oct 31, 2011 at 09:10 PM
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p.393 #9 · p.393 #9 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Makten, is your 28 Cron coded? I found that with the lens coded and UV/IR filter, it performs beautifully in every respect.



Oct 31, 2011 at 09:11 PM
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p.393 #10 · p.393 #10 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Bobu wrote:
What I see is, that:
- corner sharpness at f/2.0 of the 100MP is significantly better
- center sharpness and microcontrast at f/2.0 of the 100MP is slightly better
- corner sharpness and microcontrast at f/5.6 of the 100MP is slightly better
- center sharpness at f/5.6 is nearly identical, maybe with the slight edge for the 100MP

This could either mean you got a bad copy of the 100MP or I got a bad copy of the 90AA. Since I have to send both Summilux lenses for MFD adjustment to Leica I will probably also send the 90AA to have it checked.


Boris, I think that corner crops from a closeup form a planar subject are not reliable at large apertures. A very slight deviation from the camera being perfectly perpendicular to the subject and the focus will be off.

Anyway, according to the specifications with two good copies of the 90 Cron AA and the 100 MP we should be seeing this (at infinity):







Red = 90 Cron, Black = 100 MP

Zeiss and Leica use the same equipment for measuring the lenses (a Zeiss K8) so they should be directly comparable.

What is most anomalous is IMO actually your 90 Cron f/5.6 shot. It doesn't look good and at this point the micro contrast that you see in a 100% crop should be mostly down to the sensor - where the M9 has a big advantage as there is no AA filter. According to the MTF charts the 90 Cron should significantly outperform the 100 MP @ f/5.6, especially in the 20 & 40 lp/mm frequencies.



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p.393 #11 · p.393 #11 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


The MTF charts are measured at/near infinity, I've tested at 2m, which is far from infinity. Therefore you can not directly compare my result with these MTF charts.
In addition between 15 and 20mm there is also a slight advantage at f/2.0 for the MP, even on this MTF chart.

Regarding the corner crops: I've used focus bracketing with the M9 and I've choosen the corner with best sharpness. But the difference between the worst corner of the image with the best center sharpness and the absolutely best corner was very small. Therefore we can assume that the camera was nearly perpendicular to the subject.
And I've not done this adjustment (choosing the best corner or lifeview-focus on the corner) with the 5DII. So the sharpest corner of the 100MP could even be sharpner compared to what I've shown.

Boris



Oct 31, 2011 at 10:21 PM
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p.393 #12 · p.393 #12 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Thanks guys .

Edwin nice shots of your daughter. Pretty.
KL, it feels like it is warm in that first shot. Not getting the monsoon rains yet ?
Paul, its about time you contributed more to this thread, since you started this thread and don't post much


Engineers being interested in art is unusual in general I guess, but probably not so unusual for people interested in photography


One more please



Oct 31, 2011 at 10:29 PM
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p.393 #13 · p.393 #13 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Luka, Edwin and LL, thanks guys
Edwin, beautiful portrait shots of your daughter!
Paul, nice set I really like #2. Yes we need to see more shots now
Martin, very nice evening shots, even with the difficult lighting. Having your lens coded would help immensely with in camera corrections. Also if you use C1 Pro, the LCC would help with both colour and vignetting if that is a concern.

Boris, just another question, are your comparisons from RAW files virtually unprocessed? I do find even though the M9 RAW files, do look superficially not as sharp, the detail and tonality is there, even in more depth than the 5DII files, but PP'ing is needed to fully expose the RAW files.


Engineers being interested in art and design, I think is essential component to balance out the left brain component



Nov 01, 2011 at 12:22 AM
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p.393 #14 · p.393 #14 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Finally caught up reading and admiring all the pics after being away for a while. Some really excellent talent and photos here.

Thanks to the people in this thread, my future will not be as prosperous due to the gear that you guys are making me buy.

I got a chrome 50 Lux ASPH from Popflash a couple of weeks ago. I have been real busy with work, so all I have is a photo from my backyard, and a sort of failed attempt on a photowalk in little seaside town outside my city. I got down there too late, and I could only do handheld shots at night. So the shots may not be as sharp... But WOW! I may prefer 35mm fl, but the rendering and bokeh on this lens is just amazing!

From the garden:



Night shots, handheld:




I don't know if it's me, but I may need some help focusing this and my 90 cron Pre-ASPH. I have lasik-corrected eyesight, so I'm not sure if it's me. What's the best magnifier to use with the M9?

Also, my 50mm is chrome. It's almost as heavy as my 90 cron. My M9 is black, and I kind of think it looks funny to have a chrome lens. Those who have had both black and chrome 50 Lux ASPH's, is there an advantage to sticking with the chrome? I'm thinking about exchanging it with someone who has a black one. I'm not sure how easy that would be.



Nov 01, 2011 at 01:07 AM
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p.393 #15 · p.393 #15 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Thanks, Charles... *cough* one of the culprits *cough*

I've been trying to figure out what's the difference between a diopter and a magnifier. The descriptions sounds the same, but they look different. I always thought the diopters were for people with glasses. My eyesight is 20/20 if not better, so I do not wear glasses at all. But it would help me a lot focusing my 50 Lux and 90 cron if the focusing patch were a tad bit bigger. I wouldn't want the viewfinder magnified so much that I cannot see the 35mm (my favorite fl) frame lines, though. So for someone like me, what diopter strength should I get?

I'll check the focus accuracy soon. I've just been avoiding doing it. I figure if I don't check it, there is no problem. hehe... I'm just hoping I don't have to send my M9 nor the lenses to NJ, or that they will be knocked into perfect alignment by accident.



Nov 01, 2011 at 02:07 AM
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p.393 #16 · p.393 #16 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Yes, resistance is futile I have also vision with very high visual acuity, that is being able to see detail better than average. Still the standard diopter (magnification) on the M9 -0.5, which does not work for me at all. I tried +0.5, 1.0, 1.5 and 2.0, and found the +1.0, gave the detail and acuity I needed to focus accurately, yet see everything I need to compose the shot.

I mentioned in the previous post about PhiMatrix program, for overlay composition, here is a link to the

" target="_blank">PhiMatrix Youtube
on how the overlays relates to some award winning shots. Interesting viewing



Nov 01, 2011 at 02:17 AM
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p.393 #17 · p.393 #17 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


Ty - Congrats on an awesome lens, i like #3 of your set..
Charles - Fantastic, as usual. Do you find yourself using the 24 lux more than the 28 cron now? :d

Happy Halloween all (Noct .95 wide open) --


















Nov 01, 2011 at 04:15 AM
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p.393 #18 · p.393 #18 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


LL, thanks Yes, for travel, if I am going to take one lens, it will be the 24 Lux over the 28 Cron. Both are superb lenses. Great Halloween shots!! Fav here is #3.


Nov 01, 2011 at 05:12 AM
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p.393 #19 · p.393 #19 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


charles.K wrote:
LL, thanks Great Halloween shots!! Fav here is #3.

Thanks Charles!
Yeah the 24 lux is a heck of a lens
i'm trying to imagine a 28mm version of it!



Nov 01, 2011 at 05:28 AM
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p.393 #20 · p.393 #20 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread


ocean2059 wrote:
Makten, is your 28 Cron coded? I found that with the lens coded and UV/IR filter, it performs beautifully in every respect.


Nope, I'm not paying 200 Euros for that, so I use Cornerfix. It means that I can correct the cyan shift without correcting vignetting, which I don't want to do. I also don't use an UV/IR filter.



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