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Archive 2010 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

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p.3 #1 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

PaulB wrote:
Update:
got my Samyang 14/2.8 this morning (UK).
Weather not good - first rain here for three weeks - but clearing now.

We have too much of clear skys. Send the rain to us.

PaulB wrote:
First results look very good - more results later.
Build quality excellent.

Great news. Please post some.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

Apr 21, 2010 at 08:01 AM

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p.3 #2 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

for those who understand German - looks not that great

http://www.4photos.de/test/Samyang-14mm-2.8.html

Apr 21, 2010 at 08:17 AM

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p.3 #3 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

Woohaa! That is distortion! See the last photo!

Apr 21, 2010 at 08:19 AM

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p.3 #4 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

Too good to be true...

Apr 21, 2010 at 08:43 AM

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p.3 #5 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

picfox wrote:
for those who understand German - looks not that great

http://www.4photos.de/test/Samyang-14mm-2.8.html

Corner sharpness and distortion are awful. TANSTAAFL.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

Apr 21, 2010 at 09:32 AM

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p.3 #6 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

I'm a rare person who thinks that a little distortion isn't the end of the world, as it can usually be corrected enough in post processing to negate any real issue. However, this distortion is enough to ruin images. As I'd use it mostly for architecture, it'd kill my ability to use it. I'm hoping he had some oddly decentered elements or something, as I notice the field curvature in his test images to be massively extreme (relatively sharp lower corners, sharp upper center, but completely blurry sides and top corners which are subjects far away.) We'll see if other people have the same experiences. If so, I'll pass. It seems to me that the original images posted, though, are far better than these, and that was before the lens was redesigned to IMPROVE the optical quality. These are also nowhere near the quality of the images posted on the Samyang website...could they be doing massive correction? Yeah, but I'll wait for more reviews to make sure this isn't just a one off terribly aligned copy.

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Apr 21, 2010 at 09:45 AM

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p.3 #7 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

Looks like some of you have already made up your minds................

Apr 21, 2010 at 07:29 PM

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p.3 #8 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

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Looks really nice in the corners, but with some small caveats of course:

1. We are looking at a resize to something like 30% of the original image resolution.
2. With the exception of the final image, the other subjects are not ideal for looking at corner performance.

I'd also like to know what f-numbers these samples were shot at--some look stopped down, others maybe not, but I can't tell, since it's missing from the EXIF.

But yes, this appears to be very, very nice performance indeed. And at a very competitive price! In many ways, one would not miss not having AF on such a lens. Based on image samples I am tentatively claiming that this lens outperforms the Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 @ 14mm. Canon better watch out. My fondest wish is for upstarts like Samyang to shake up the 35mm lens retail market, because competition leads to innovation and downward price pressure.

AF? Why AF? Set to infinity, release shutter, enjoy.

Seriously, if the lens is decent, I wouldn't care too much about AF for what's probably more a landscape lens than anything else.

Apr 21, 2010 at 08:54 PM

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p.3 #9 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

Yakim Peled wrote:
picfox wrote:
for those who understand German - looks not that great

http://www.4photos.de/test/Samyang-14mm-2.8.html

Corner sharpness and distortion are awful. TANSTAAFL.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

Oh... that's bad...if there isn't a severe problem with that lens (and I hope there is), then it would be over priced at $40, let alone $400.

Apr 21, 2010 at 08:57 PM

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p.3 #10 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

http://www.4photos.de/test/Samyang-14mm-2.8-en.html is now also available!

Interested in more user tests, dont know the QC of Samyang. Dont like to use software to correct such an issue. If this is the standard Samyang will set for this lens, I do not expect high sales volumes, too much competition in the same price category.

Apr 21, 2010 at 09:15 PM

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p.3 #11 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

Mustache distortion!
Now that's a new one for me

I think I will get an old Canon 20/2.8 and be happy.
Dan

Apr 21, 2010 at 09:29 PM

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p.3 #12 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

http://www.lenstip.com/239.1-Lens_review-Samyang_14_mm_f_2.8_ED_AS_IF_UMC_Introduction.html

Full, proper review. Looks MUCH better than the copy reviewed in the German review, especially regarding edge sharpness....looks like the other guy may have gotten a damaged lens.

Distortion still looks bad, though...wonder how difficult it would be to correct.

Apr 22, 2010 at 12:04 AM

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p.3 #13 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

wickerprints wrote:
Looks really nice in the corners, but with some small caveats of course:

1. We are looking at a resize to something like 30% of the original image resolution.
2. With the exception of the final image, the other subjects are not ideal for looking at corner performance.

I'd also like to know what f-numbers these samples were shot at--some look stopped down, others maybe not, but I can't tell, since it's missing from the EXIF.

But yes, this appears to be very, very nice performance indeed. And at a very competitive price! In many ways, one would not miss not having AF on such a lens. Based on image samples I am tentatively claiming that this lens outperforms the Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 @ 14mm. Canon better watch out. My fondest wish is for upstarts like Samyang to shake up the 35mm lens retail market, because competition leads to innovation and downward price pressure.

jamesf99 wrote:
AF? Why AF? Set to infinity, release shutter, enjoy.

Seriously, if the lens is decent, I wouldn't care too much about AF for what's probably more a landscape lens than anything else.

Did you not read my post carefully? This is what I said:

"In many ways, one would not miss not having AF on such a lens."

In other words, no AF = no big deal. Maybe there's an extra "not" in there but I think the meaning was clear.

Apr 22, 2010 at 12:10 AM

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p.3 #14 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

Jman13 wrote:
http://www.lenstip.com/239.1-Lens_review-Samyang_14_mm_f_2.8_ED_AS_IF_UMC_Introduction.html

Full, proper review. Looks MUCH better than the copy reviewed in the German review, especially regarding edge sharpness....looks like the other guy may have gotten a damaged lens.

Distortion still looks bad, though...wonder how difficult it would be to correct.

Be interested in seeing someone do a ptlens profile on the lens and seeing how it corrects it.

Apr 22, 2010 at 04:28 AM

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p.3 #15 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

jamesf99 wrote:
Yakim Peled wrote:
picfox wrote:
for those who understand German - looks not that great

http://www.4photos.de/test/Samyang-14mm-2.8.html

Corner sharpness and distortion are awful. TANSTAAFL.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

Oh... that's bad...if there isn't a severe problem with that lens (and I hope there is), then it would be over priced at $40, let alone $400.

I didn't say it was overpriced. On the contrary. It is cheaper than better lenses. Hence, TANSTAAFL.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

Apr 22, 2010 at 07:12 AM

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p.3 #16 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

Many actual owners have been posting on other forums and the results seem favourable so far - as are mine.
Perhaps the so-called 'test' lenses haven't been representative - wouldn't be the first time!
PTLens latest update includes a setting for the Samyang 14/2.8 and works very well indeed.

Apr 22, 2010 at 09:36 PM

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p.3 #17 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

Done. Ordering this bad boy.

Apr 22, 2010 at 11:07 PM

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p.3 #18 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

jdang307,

OK, we will be awaiting your comments, testing & experience with this lens.
I am getting to the point where I need a good/wide prime, but don't want a clunker.
A bargain, yes, but not something I have to PP just to get an image out of the work

Dan

Apr 22, 2010 at 11:28 PM

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p.3 #19 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

wickerprints wrote:

Did you not read my post carefully? This is what I said:

"In many ways, one would not miss not having AF on such a lens."

In other words, no AF = no big deal. Maybe there's an extra "not" in there but I think the meaning was clear.

No, I guess I didn't. Mea culpa, but I guess that happens sometimes on poorly written posts.

Apr 23, 2010 at 02:26 AM

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p.3 #20 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

Yakim Peled wrote:
jamesf99 wrote:
Yakim Peled wrote:
picfox wrote:
for those who understand German - looks not that great

http://www.4photos.de/test/Samyang-14mm-2.8.html

Corner sharpness and distortion are awful. TANSTAAFL.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

Oh... that's bad...if there isn't a severe problem with that lens (and I hope there is), then it would be over priced at $40, let alone $400.

I didn't say it was overpriced. On the contrary. It is cheaper than better lenses. Hence, TANSTAAFL.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

No, it was my suggestion that it would be overpriced. I wouldn't pay $40 for a lens that produced that kind of distortion.

That's why I was hoping that the lens used/tested was an anomaly, or at least had been dropped, was malformed at birth, or suffered some other catastrophic event.

Apr 23, 2010 at 02:30 AM

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p.3 #21 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

No, it was my suggestion that it would be overpriced. I wouldn't pay $40 for a lens that produced that kind of distortion.

That's why I was hoping that the lens used/tested was an anomaly, or at least had been dropped, was malformed at birth, or suffered some other catastrophic event.

I think it probably isn't representative of the results others have been getting.

And I'm not sure what level of distortion you would find acceptable from any 14mm on FF - yes the Canon 14mm has less (and so it should at the price - but still has some), the Canon 17 TS-E has less again (and again should at the price, but it isn't a 14mm).

Apr 23, 2010 at 03:08 PM

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p.3 #22 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

The mustache distortion and overall levels are pretty high, which makes it too bad for some uses, but it isn't too troublesome for other applications. For me, a 14mm lens is not something I'd use a great deal, and for the money it is an easy decision. If I expected to use that focal length a lot, then maybe paying 5x as much for Canon's would make it worthwhile. I'll probably wait for a few more samples or reviews to come out and then decide.

Apr 24, 2010 at 02:14 PM

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p.3 #23 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

PaulB wrote:
The Samyang 14mm had better be, at least good, preferably excellent - I've got one on order!

Where at? I haven't seen any dealers with this lens listed.

Thanks

Joe Conklin

Apr 24, 2010 at 07:56 PM

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p.3 #24 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

jsc230 wrote:
PaulB wrote:
The Samyang 14mm had better be, at least good, preferably excellent - I've got one on order!

Where at? I haven't seen any dealers with this lens listed.

Thanks

Joe Conklin

As far as I can see, there is a photo shop in Poland that sells them. I went on ebay.ca and it comes up there. Looks like decent price and free shipping. The seller has a good feedback rating, so it is probably ok.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Samyang-14mm-f-2-8-IF-ED-MC-Aspherical-for-CANON_W0QQitemZ350320653139QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCamera_Lenses?hash=item5190bcf353#ht_6195wt_1042

Apr 24, 2010 at 09:02 PM

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p.3 #25 · Samyang 14mm on 5D2

Wonder why Sigma doesn't bring it back in their lineup, especially with the price of Canon.s. I have a pristine copy of the 14mm 2.8 EX HSM that I cherish, sharpness and contrast even wide open are astounding. I personally think it's the best lens they ever produced...

Apr 25, 2010 at 08:37 AM


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