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p.1 #1 · Help with Windows 7


I'm upgrading to windows 7 tomorrow. My question is: is there a way to install, or upgrade without loosing all your Photoshop actions and presets? Or even if I reinstall Photoshop, is there a way to save all that stuff and then load it back? I have some actions I've created or modified and would hate to loose those..

If anyone knows please help. Thank you.


Mar 22, 2010 at 06:21 AM
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p.1 #2 · Help with Windows 7


Zerga,

It would be recommended to backup the Presets folder and then just copy it over. They're located here:

C:\Users\[USERNAME]\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS4\Presets
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS4\Presets

Once you've upgraded to windows 7, install Photoshop and then copy over the folder and overwrite accordingly .





Mar 22, 2010 at 06:24 AM
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p.1 #3 · Help with Windows 7


I just installed Win7 64-bit over the weekend.

For Photoshop: I reinstalled. I went from 32-bit XP to 64-bit Win7, so I wouldn't have had a 64-bit photoshop installed anyway.

Virtually all my plug-ins do not work with 64-bit Photoshop. Actually, let me check...literally, every single plugin I have does not work with 64-bit Photoshop.

Some plugins can simply be copied over. Actions can be saved and moved easily. Quite a number of plug-ins require reinstalling.

Your actions, though? Just save them. Right-click on the upper-right corner of the Actions box, and save them as a .atn action file. Then, load this file into new photoshop.

Your actions should actually be backed up, just to make sure you don't lose them.


Mar 22, 2010 at 06:26 AM
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p.1 #4 · Help with Windows 7


Zerga,

much to the amusement of our Mac holding brothers and sisters I feel compelled to deliver you the (sad?) news that while it is true that Windows 7 is not too much more than Windows Vista Service Pack 3 (Funny how Microsoft's Mojave joke turned out to be a joke on us and on the "pc-experts") you would be well advised to back up your data and do a fresh install of Windows 7 rather than upgrade.

Neuffy,

PS CS4 64 comes with PS CS4 32. Frankly I haven't seen a valid reason to give up my plugins (and some internal functionality too) just to be able to say "I edited this with PS 64". Can't remember a single time that I've used PS 64 since installing it actually. PS CS4 32 FTW


Mar 22, 2010 at 11:28 AM
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lisy78 wrote:
.... Frankly I haven't seen a valid reason to give up my plugins (and some internal functionality too) just to be able to say "I edited this with PS 64". Can't remember a single time that I've used PS 64 since installing it actually. PS CS4 32 FTW



I completely agree with this. I find myself going back to PS32 because of the whole plugin problem. I have many PS Actions that include steps for plugins that don't work in PS64. There is no speed gain that I can see in PS64 that makes it worth it especially when using Actions in Batch.


Mar 22, 2010 at 11:43 AM
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<-- uses CS2 on windows 7 still.....

Mar 22, 2010 at 01:48 PM
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p.1 #7 · Help with Windows 7


Agree with Not lisy on the fresh install.

I upgraded from Vista to Win7 this last weekend.
I did the fresh install.

I picked up PCmover. and it worked really well.
$19.00 special - download.
LR3b /LR2.6 are fine.

Later,
_Mark


Mar 22, 2010 at 01:52 PM
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lisy78 wrote:
Zerga,

much to the amusement of our Mac holding brothers and sisters I feel compelled to deliver you the (sad?) news that while it is true that Windows 7 is not too much more than Windows Vista Service Pack 3 (Funny how Microsoft's Mojave joke turned out to be a joke on us and on the "pc-experts") you would be well advised to back up your data and do a fresh install of Windows 7 rather than upgrade.

Neuffy,

PS CS4 64 comes with PS CS4 32. Frankly I haven't seen a valid reason to give up my plugins (and some internal functionality too) just to be able to say "I edited this with PS 64". Can't remember a single time that I've used PS 64 since installing it actually. PS CS4 32 FTW


A clean install instead of an "upgrade" install is always recommended. And the move to Win 7 is much more than a "service pack" over Vista. Quoted from Maximum PC:

"The new OS feels snappier in almost every way. Apps seem to load faster, and dialog boxes appear and disappear faster. In general, we found ourselves spending less time waiting for the PC than we do in XP, Vista, or OS X. "

"Whether you’re coming from XP or Vista, Windows 7 offers a massive leap forward in usability, security, and support for new hardware and technology, especially for enthusiasts and power users."

- http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/windows_7_review

Chris Miller


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p.1 #9 · Help with Windows 7


Chris,

Not to derail the thread... but the article you linked is a prime example of what I meant by "Microsoft's Mojave joke turned to out to be a joke on us and on the "pc-experts"

And for the record, while certainly somewhat faster than Windows Vista, Windows 7 is not faster than Windows XP. Windows 7 BOOTS faster than XP but given identical hardware that can be taken advantage of by the operating system XP is faster at pretty much everything.

A very small subset of users (photographers for one, video editors, etc) will indeed have a better experience with 7 simply because XP is limited to 3GB of RAM. But doing the things that 99.9% of people do XP kills Windows 7.

The more annoying aspect of this bruhaha over 7 being the savior of Wintel operating systems is that under the conditions where Windows 7 is faster than XP... Windows Vista 64 was ALSO faster than XP.

Anyhoo... I stand by my claim that Windows 7 is NOT TOO MUCH MORE than Vista SP 3. It is certainly a much smaller upgrade than Win3.1 -> Win 95. It's a smaller upgrade than Win 95 -> Win 98. it's a smaller upgrade than Win 98 -> Win 98 SE. It's a smaller upgrade than Win98 SE -> Win XP and it's a smaller upgrade than the downgrade we had going from Win XP to Vista ( ... kiddin kidding). Basically Win 7 is sorta like the Win 98 SE -> Windows ME "upgrade" ... except at least this time it IS an upgrade

That being said I'm working out a schedule to upgrade to 7. I'm not a hater


Mar 22, 2010 at 02:25 PM
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p.1 #10 · Help with Windows 7


Lisy78,

I don't anticipate a reason to use CS4-64 for most of my stuff. Not at all. However, I'll be experimenting this week with some 100-1000 MP, multi-layered 16-bit files and we'll see.

I went straight from XP 32-bit to Win7 64-bit, so I'm a little fuzzy on Vista. Photography killed my computer geekery, but I'm still a fairly advanced user. Biggest upgrade features of Win7 for me:
1. Transfer speed listed on copy/cut/paste operations. I can't verify, but transfers appear to be faster. Could be personal bias.
2. Boot speed.
3. Better Task Manager.
4. WAY better Program manager (for program removal and uninstall)
5. Way fewer non-resolvable slowdowns in programs.
6. Many fewer crashes of known-unstable programs. (Why, no. No, Firefox is _not_ stable with 50-100 tabs open.)

That's it for off the top of my head.


Mar 22, 2010 at 03:22 PM
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While I have always preferred clean OS installs, Vista -> 7 is the first Windows OS that can really be 'upgraded' without all of the typical 'upgrade issues'. That being said... I would still likely just do a clean install.

The biggest benefit for me with CS4 64 over 32 is the ability to use more memory. This means that since building my new rig I have not had to use a scratch disk even when editing 2+ GB panorama files which seem to use about 5 GB of memory when editing.


Mar 22, 2010 at 03:47 PM
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p.1 #12 · Help with Windows 7


WHat is your current OS? 32-bit or 64-bit? Are you changing that? If not, just do an upgrade install. This version is like going from Windows 98 to XP. It actually does a good job of getting rid of all the unneeded stuff.

If you are changing from 32 to 64 bit... you don't have an option. Clean install all the way.

Microsoft has plenty of free tools to move program settings and files.


Mar 22, 2010 at 05:25 PM
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p.1 #13 · Help with Windows 7


Just did clean install. Reinstalling all the programs now. Hopefully I didn't loose anything important

Mar 22, 2010 at 09:27 PM
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Uhm, if I remember correctly, going from Vista or probably even XP, you cannot do an upgrade, you are required to do a clean install. Windows 7 does not like doing an upgrade from the other operating systems. Edit: Actually, from the statement above me, I might be wrong. Lord knows why I got a 64bit laptop with 32bit Vista installed from Best Buy (I replaced it with Win7x64). But then again, I swore never to buy from them after my recent problems with them.
Photoshop 64 has been buggy for me, it crashes whenever it feels like it, I prefer simply sticking with the 32. Probably random or not exactly related since this is more for Photoshop, but if you have a 64bit OS, I'd recommend not playing with Flash. I still don't know if it's my computer or the software, but I think I managed to corrupt Flash on my computer. There's no support for it on a 64bit OS. I'd just recommend not messing with Adobe 64bit compatible software.


Mar 23, 2010 at 01:10 AM
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CoyoteNine wrote:
Uhm, if I remember correctly, going from Vista or probably even XP, you cannot do an upgrade, you are required to do a clean install. Windows 7 does not like doing an upgrade from the other operating systems. Edit: Actually, from the statement above me, I might be wrong. Lord knows why I got a 64bit laptop with 32bit Vista installed from Best Buy (I replaced it with Win7x64). But then again, I swore never to buy from them after my recent problems with them.
Photoshop 64 has been buggy for me, it crashes whenever it feels like it, I prefer simply sticking with the 32. Probably random or not exactly related since this is more for Photoshop, but if you have a 64bit OS, I'd recommend not playing with Flash. I still don't know if it's my computer or the software, but I think I managed to corrupt Flash on my computer. There's no support for it on a 64bit OS. I'd just recommend not messing with Adobe 64bit compatible software.


Just an FYI, upgrading from Vista to 7 is simple and supported. XP to 7 is not possible, but you can still buy an upgrade version of 7 to legally "upgrade" from XP. An upgrade from XP to 7 is basically a clean install, but doesn't require a full retail or oem version of 7.


Mar 23, 2010 at 01:21 AM
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tdawg wrote:
CoyoteNine wrote:
Uhm, if I remember correctly, going from Vista or probably even XP, you cannot do an upgrade, you are required to do a clean install. Windows 7 does not like doing an upgrade from the other operating systems. Edit: Actually, from the statement above me, I might be wrong. Lord knows why I got a 64bit laptop with 32bit Vista installed from Best Buy (I replaced it with Win7x64). But then again, I swore never to buy from them after my recent problems with them.
Photoshop 64 has been buggy for me, it crashes whenever it feels like it, I prefer simply sticking with the 32. Probably random or not exactly related since this is more for Photoshop, but if you have a 64bit OS, I'd recommend not playing with Flash. I still don't know if it's my computer or the software, but I think I managed to corrupt Flash on my computer. There's no support for it on a 64bit OS. I'd just recommend not messing with Adobe 64bit compatible software.


Just an FYI, upgrading from Vista to 7 is simple and supported. XP to 7 is not possible, but you can still buy an upgrade version of 7 to legally "upgrade" from XP. An upgrade from XP to 7 is basically a clean install, but doesn't require a full retail or oem version of 7.


Aha, thanks for that info. I've only done an install over Vista with 7 and that was required to be a clean install.


Mar 23, 2010 at 01:37 AM
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