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dhphoto wrote:
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That's where I downloaded it. Canon site isn't working for me. Downloaded fine, just can't extract.

You don't extract that file, it's already a .fir file for doing the upgrade!

The file I downloaded from the Canon site is an .exe file and I've attached the error message I get when I try to extract it. I've done a search on the computer and the .fir file is nowhere to be found. Any ideas on how to proceed?

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Mar 16, 2010 at 07:00 PM

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You can download the .fir file, that doesn't need expanding, here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/364081432/5d200203.fir

Mar 16, 2010 at 07:02 PM

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p.3 #3 · 5D mkII firmware is out....now

Thanks, much better. The first time I went to RapidShare all I saw were the prices to join. This time I noticed the countdown to the free download and all is well. I wonder what's wrong with the Canon download?

Mar 16, 2010 at 07:28 PM

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dhphoto wrote:
Serious question: what do people use more than 3 stops of exposure compensation for?

I've been shooting for over 35 years and I can't come up with any real examples of when that would be needed over, say, slotting into manual mode. Anyone?

I'd kill just to do -3 FEC on camera. 5DII only does +/-2 on camera, using an ST-E2, using a 4xxEX flash, or using my Pocketwizard TTL system. It can only do +/-3 FEC with a 5xxEX flash on, which isn't always possible when I'm shooting a wedding with 2 cameras on me, 2 on my assistant, remote flashes set up which need all my 5xxEX flashes. When going for subtle side lighting that doesn't look flashy and matches the ambient, being able to do -3 FEC is critical to me.

Just FYI. Not everyone has this problem. +/-2 EC is fine and I have no need for positive FEC ever. But just make it simple and put +/-3 on everything on the camera. Nikon is now doing +/-4.

Mar 16, 2010 at 07:34 PM

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p.3 #5 · 5D mkII firmware is out....now

The post was, I believe about exposure compensation, as was my reply, not about flash exposure compensation, although I think you'll struggle to see much at more than 3 stops underexposed from any of your flashes.

I'm often at -2 FEC to give a little brightness and a highlight to a portrait, much less than that you'll be hard pressed to see IMHO

Mar 16, 2010 at 07:50 PM

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p.3 #6 · 5D mkII firmware is out....now

I did the update. Now I might be inclined to shoot a movie.

Mar 16, 2010 at 08:35 PM

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Can someone point to an explanation of the logic behind the different frame rates:

I mean why is NTSC has 30 fps and 24 fps, while PAL is 24 fps and 25 fps?

Mar 16, 2010 at 09:26 PM

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azurekenzo wrote:
If it's too slow on Canon site, you could download from here.

http://rapidshare.com/files/364081432/5d200203.fir

Thanks for this link! The Canon servers are so busy and slow at this time that I even can't download any of the manuals. Just installed the update and everything works fine so far.

Mar 16, 2010 at 09:28 PM

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The EC scale on-camera is +/-2. The FEC scale is the same indicator scale, I'm sure you've noticed this in your 25 years. Nevermind, no point trying to argue with someone who wishes to remain unconvinced.

Mar 16, 2010 at 09:40 PM

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J Andersen wrote:
Can someone point to an explanation of the logic behind the different frame rates:

I mean why is NTSC has 30 fps and 24 fps, while PAL is 24 fps and 25 fps?

I am going to make a guess that both have 24 fps because both TV broadcast standards would like to shoot film @ 24 fps, but NTSC has a native frame rate of 29.97 fps, whereas PAL has a native frame rate of 25 fps.

Mar 16, 2010 at 09:41 PM

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fourfa wrote:
The EC scale on-camera is +/-2. The FEC scale is the same indicator scale, I'm sure you've noticed this in your 25 years. Nevermind, no point trying to argue with someone who wishes to remain unconvinced.

Agreed. There can't be any argument though that having +/- 3 ads to your capabilities. There could be numerous applications.

Mar 16, 2010 at 09:44 PM

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It really because Europe have 50 Hz and US 60 Hz mains. And the TV standards were locked to this, i.e. PAL (european colour TV standard) uses 50 Hz and US NTSC uses 60 Hz ( or really half as the pictures are interlaced for both systems)

Cinema has been using 24 Hz frame rate for ages...

J Andersen wrote:
Can someone point to an explanation of the logic behind the different frame rates:

I mean why is NTSC has 30 fps and 24 fps, while PAL is 24 fps and 25 fps?

Mar 16, 2010 at 09:52 PM

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I find +/-2 EC to be restrictive as well. Would be nice if the 5D had at least +/-3.

Mar 16, 2010 at 10:54 PM

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DIS Ottawa wrote:
dhphoto wrote:
BennyR wrote:
That's where I downloaded it. Canon site isn't working for me. Downloaded fine, just can't extract.

You don't extract that file, it's already a .fir file for doing the upgrade!

The file I downloaded from the Canon site is an .exe file and I've attached the error message I get when I try to extract it. I've done a search on the computer and the .fir file is nowhere to be found. Any ideas on how to proceed?

You could create a new folder, and copy the file you downloaded from Canon' site to there. Then, you could extract it to the same folder.

Mar 16, 2010 at 11:12 PM

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Downloaded the new firmware but it will not extract. Tried on 2 different computers with the same results. The download is very slow and then speeds up. I will try again later in hopes the results will be different.

Mar 16, 2010 at 11:33 PM

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p.3 #16 · 5D mkII firmware is out....now

My first download wouldn't extract. Second download did and the cam's working great.

Mar 16, 2010 at 11:35 PM

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p.3 #17 · 5D mkII firmware is out....now

ive uploaded to my site too, as a mirror if anyone still having trouble getting it from canon.

http://shutterclub.net/eos5d2203.dmg ( mac )

http://shutterclub.net/eos5d2203.zip ( pc )

Mar 16, 2010 at 11:43 PM

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Finally also was able to download the manual. On the first look I saw changes especially in chapters 7, 8, and 11.

Mar 17, 2010 at 12:00 AM

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So will all the video enabled cameras get manual audio level control. If they can do it for 5D II they can do it for them all you would think.

Mar 17, 2010 at 12:02 AM

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PShizzy wrote:
richierich1212: It's not just the frame rate. The film look is comprised of a few different things, those being the DOF of a full frame sensor, the frame rate, and the shutter speed at which film is captured, which for film is about 1/48th (or about half the time of the shutter.. the other half was used to transport the film to the next frame). By using that 1/48th exposure time for each frame of a film, the motion blur and movement was more fluid.

What most people don't notice is that video cameras will bump up shutter speeds in order to adjust for daylight or incoming light. By doing that, the time between each frame is longer, and the captured frame itself is sharper because it's a shorter duration.

So, if you start shooting with that 5D at 23.976, try giving 1/50th shutter speed a shot.

BTW, Gladiator bucked this trend and used a 1/192nd second exposure time, which made the fight scenes look very crisp and worked especially well with the moving blades and weapons.

Max

a lot of it is also grain, not much in the way of chroma-type noise, a particular sort of gamma and tonal profile

landscape scenes in movies with tons of DOF still don't look like video

Mar 17, 2010 at 12:19 AM

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JasonJ wrote:
Updated without a hitch.

The histogram was a nice touch!

just went 1.10 to this!

yeah histogram is helpful as are manual gain levels

Mar 17, 2010 at 12:20 AM

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brainiac wrote:
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What happened to the 720p, 60fps that was supposed to be released with it also? I was looking forward to being able to shoot 60fps

Tall order.

i wonder though considering canon already has an exec on record months ago saying that 720p60fps wasn't a problem

probably marketing

Mar 17, 2010 at 12:23 AM

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wickerprints wrote:
J Andersen wrote:
Can someone point to an explanation of the logic behind the different frame rates:

I mean why is NTSC has 30 fps and 24 fps, while PAL is 24 fps and 25 fps?

I am going to make a guess that both have 24 fps because both TV broadcast standards would like to shoot film @ 24 fps, but NTSC has a native frame rate of 29.97 fps, whereas PAL has a native frame rate of 25 fps.

what i do find strange though is that they shifted 30 to 29.97 etc. but then why not 24 as 24 but 23.something? aren't movies truly 24.00000000000000000000

Mar 17, 2010 at 12:26 AM

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great idea from canon--look forward to the next serious update to the famed 5d2

Mar 17, 2010 at 12:27 AM

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skibum5 wrote:

what i do find strange though is that they shifted 30 to 29.97 etc. but then why not 24 as 24 but 23.something? aren't movies truly 24.00000000000000000000

23.976 fps is more easily converted to NTSC 29.97 fps. I believe 23.976 fps is a very common frame rate, as "the look" is the same as 24.0 fps, but the math works out better for converting to NTSC (standard def. TV format).

Alan

Mar 17, 2010 at 12:58 AM


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