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p.1 #1 · Low Noise with High Resolution?


Maybe this has been covered ad nauseum in this forum, but how can I get low noise with high resolution? I am using the version of DPP that came with my 40D. Noise control kills resolution.

Feb 09, 2010 at 04:41 PM
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p.1 #2 · Low Noise with High Resolution?


A few comments off the top of my head:

- I think most people would describe the battle as between noise reduction and "detail", rather than noise reduction and "resolution". Just want to get that out of the way.

- While many people like DPP for the quality of its raw development and its color accuracy, I think most people feel the noise reduction in DPP is a little heavy-handed. It kills detail pretty quickly. If you find noise a major problem in DPP, you might want to try alternative raw developers. Capture One is pretty highly regarded for its noise reduction/detail retention. Photoshop and Lightroom both probably do a better job at NR than DPP. If you use Photoshop or Lightroom you also have the option of buying more heavy-duty noise reduction add-ons such as Noiseware, Noise Ninja, Nik Define, etc.. There are also some free raw developers you might want to try if you are on a budget. Raw Therapee is one and Perfect Raw is another. You should also notice that the Perfect Raw link also includes a link to a program where you can stack multiple shots for noise reduction. You might want to experiment with that, too.

http://www.rawtherapee.com/
http://www.guillermoluijk.com/software/index.htm

- One of the easiest ways to control noise is to employ "expose-to-the-right" techniques when you shoot the image. If you are not familiar with the term/technique, here is a pretty good link to get you started:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/expose-right.shtml


Hope that helps.


Feb 09, 2010 at 05:39 PM
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p.1 #3 · Low Noise with High Resolution?


Thanks for all the information! Pretty much +1 for the luminous landscape thread.

Brighter gives you less noise but I usually leave it on EV -1 to keep from blowing out highlights and to avoid weird colors. Often I try to brighten if I have time and the shot isn't gone. Pick your poison, I suppose. Interestingly, DPP seems to get something back, that is, blown out areas of the image, when darkened, are no longer blown out according to the program. Haven't tested much though.

I'll have to look up capture one. I haven't considered noise much of a problem with DPP but I've seen photos that seem much lower noise than I seem to get, and still high detail, and would really like to improve image quality.

I have tried Raw Therapee and other free RAW with GIMP and, perhaps this has been changed, but only 8 bit was available, and, if I remember right, no sharpening!!! They all use RAW drop, which is ok. Also images seem to get darker, maybe 2/3 stop, than I get off DPP. I hope this has changed, but probably not easy to do and people might want to get paid to do it. I plan on trying Perfect RAW.

Thanks again for all the info.



Feb 09, 2010 at 07:13 PM
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p.1 #4 · Low Noise with High Resolution?


If your subjects doesn't move around much, I'd recommend PhotoAcute Studio
I tried out the trial, and it does work as advertised (much better when on tripod), so I think I might be getting it soon. Not a whole lot of situations you could use it in, but it does make ISO12800 look like ISO800 when done right.


Feb 09, 2010 at 08:22 PM
 



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p.1 #5 · Low Noise with High Resolution?


DPP seems to be ok at removing colour noise but any attempt to remove luminance noise just destroys subject detail.

I found Neat Image Pro to do an excellent job of removing noise without removing subject detail. It can easily be tailored via do-it-yourself profiles to suit any camera/ISO combination, or you can try profiling individual images if there is big enough section with noise but no subject detail. It works with 16-bit image files and can be used stand-alone or as a PS plug-in.

- Alan


Feb 10, 2010 at 09:20 AM
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p.1 #6 · Low Noise with High Resolution?


FF is the path to low noise and high resolution.

Feb 10, 2010 at 06:22 PM
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p.1 #7 · Low Noise with High Resolution?


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Feb 10, 2010 at 11:40 PM
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