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Both are to much money for me being only a hobbyist. I would love the 16-35/4, but it looks a little bit to big and heavy for my liking. Guess I'll stick with my light and handy Tamron 17-35.

Feb 09, 2010 at 03:11 PM
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ISO1600 wrote:
chemprof wrote:
Bad choice - VR on a wide angle lens. Phoo. Adds even more weight and bulk and cost to a lens that should be a professional alternative for lighter weight and lower cost.

It's hardly any smaller than the HUGE 24-70 f/28! What's the point? I guess it's 0.5 lbs lighter, but the damned thing is still 1.5 lbs!

And BOTH new lenses are over the top in terms of price. I'd hoped the new 16-35 would come in in the $1K range, not only $400 less than the way overpriced 24-70.

Again... Phooo.

Gerald



PHOOOO Gerald, have you seen pricing on any Nikon glass in the past 3 years? It is all very expensive relative to what it is. Look at the 50G, it's a nearly $500 50mm f1.4.


True, Nikon's pricing has gotten REALLY ridiculous as of late - it's pure nonsense.

G


Feb 09, 2010 at 03:13 PM
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davidnholtjr wrote:
Both are to much money for me being only a hobbyist. I would love the 16-35/4, but it looks a little bit to big and heavy for my liking. Guess I'll stick with my light and handy Tamron 17-35.


Exactly what I'm saying.

Gerald


Feb 09, 2010 at 03:13 PM
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p.7 #4 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


the 16-35 f4 VR makes perfect sense to me. It will likely be a lens that will be sharp wide open at f4, corners tack sharp by f5.6 and allow for 4 stops of vibration steadiness. Goodbye tripod. The ultimate landscape lens on FF while you're out and about and no need for the extra carry weight of a tripod. Not sure it gets much better than that.....

Feb 09, 2010 at 03:24 PM
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VR for video, "only 25% lighter.." and "only $400 less"... ok.

Feb 09, 2010 at 03:25 PM
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More overpriced stuff from nikon..... And unfortunately there are those out there that obviously have too much money and that will jump immediately on the 'lists' for these, thereby giving Nikon the nod to keep it up. People such as those that think that $1260 is "not much more" than $700(mint 18mm fixed). Um that's close to 1/2....! As much as I dislike K. Rockwell these days, I sure hope he uses his notoriety to 'boycott' these too.

C'mon... VR really necessary on a 16-35mm?? Sounds like a ploy to try and justify a higher price if u ask me. So what that its f4, all I see reference to is using this lens for landscape(ie. Polarizer)/outdoor. I doubt you're gonna use anything faster than f8 once on the tripod, much less VR.

Here's to waiting for an updated 24-120 or the like.


Feb 09, 2010 at 03:31 PM
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Looks like an interesting lens, but I'm not selling my 17-35 f/2.8 anytime soon. For weddings I think faster aperture is more important than VR. VR doesnt stop people from moving at the end of the day.

Feb 09, 2010 at 03:32 PM
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I wish they kept the older look for the 24/1.4 not that it matters but to me their new lenses looks cheaply made. While the 85/1.4 and 28/1.4 look like they were build to LAST.


Feb 09, 2010 at 03:35 PM
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You'd think that an F4 lense would be aimed at people that don't need or can't afford F2.8... Thus making it way less expensive (and lighter) than the 16-35 MRSP / weight...

Nikon new lenses prices are getting insane


Feb 09, 2010 at 03:53 PM
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MTF comparison of new Nikon AF-S 24mm f 1.4 with Canon EF 24mm f/1.4L II.

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/kinon02/nikcan24mm.png



Edited on Feb 09, 2010 at 04:29 PM · View previous versions


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davidnholtjr wrote:
Both are to much money for me being only a hobbyist. I would love the 16-35/4, but it looks a little bit to big and heavy for my liking. Guess I'll stick with my light and handy Tamron 17-35.



Me too. My Tamron is sharp as hell, cost me $225, and is super light. It gives me f/2.8 at the wide end to boot. I feel sorry for anyone that gets suckered into this $1300 16-35 just because they're scared of third-party glass. I owned the Nikon 17-35 before this one, and and traded "down" to make room for an 85 f/1.4, and don't regret the "downgrade" at all.


Feb 09, 2010 at 04:17 PM
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So, where are the new TC-1.4E III and TC-1.7E III Teleconverters?

I was really expecting more than just two lenses especially after the Nikon page slip-ups (1.4 and 1.7 courtesy of NR).



Feb 09, 2010 at 04:31 PM
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NsBenitez wrote:
Nikon new lenses prices are getting insane


No Leica prices are insane , Nikon prices are just higher than Canon for lenses. Canon can have lower profit margins because their other product lines are cash cows. Given their resources, R&D and manufacturing costs might be lower as well.

Canon is not Nikon, I don't understand why everyone expects them to be. They are different manufacturers, they will have different features and price points. Like Volkswagen and Honda or Samsung and Sony.



Feb 09, 2010 at 04:33 PM
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LuMax wrote:
So, where are the new TC-1.4E III and TC-1.7E III Teleconverters?

I was really expecting more than just two lenses especially after the Nikon page slip-ups (1.4 and 1.7 courtesy of NR).



Probably PMA, along with another fast prime. That's my guess.


Feb 09, 2010 at 04:34 PM
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I was very excited about the 24/1.4 but when I saw the price I was deflated. That is double the price I was expecting it to be. Too bad.

Feb 09, 2010 at 04:40 PM
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davidnholtjr wrote:
Guess I'll stick with my light and handy Tamron 17-35.


Erik Moore wrote:
Me too. My Tamron is sharp as hell, cost me $225, and is super light.


Not knocking the Tamron at all, because it's a valid choice. But note that Nikon doesn't put lead weights into lenses to make them heavier... it's a stronger, more durable build with other differences, like usually much faster and more accurate AF, especially in low light. If there were really no difference or very little difference, then more people would go for the cheaper option... contrary to what you might think, most pros and people who buy $1300 lenses are not "suckers who are scared of third-party glass."

Your choice is valid. Your implication that other shooters are not qualified to make other choices intelligently, or that a $1300 alternative to a $225 lens can actually be well worth the money, is ridiculous.


Feb 09, 2010 at 04:42 PM
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chemprof wrote:
ISO1600 wrote:
chemprof wrote:
Bad choice - VR on a wide angle lens. Phoo. Adds even more weight and bulk and cost to a lens that should be a professional alternative for lighter weight and lower cost.

It's hardly any smaller than the HUGE 24-70 f/28! What's the point? I guess it's 0.5 lbs lighter, but the damned thing is still 1.5 lbs!

And BOTH new lenses are over the top in terms of price. I'd hoped the new 16-35 would come in in the $1K range, not only $400 less than the way overpriced 24-70.

Again... Phooo.

Gerald



PHOOOO Gerald, have you seen pricing on any Nikon glass in the past 3 years? It is all very expensive relative to what it is. Look at the 50G, it's a nearly $500 50mm f1.4.


True, Nikon's pricing has gotten REALLY ridiculous as of late - it's pure nonsense.

G


You can thank the decline of the US dollar for that...


Feb 09, 2010 at 04:50 PM
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Lord Kimbo wrote:
I was very excited about the 24/1.4 but when I saw the price I was deflated. That is double the price I was expecting it to be. Too bad.


how would it be $1100 when the Canon 24/1.4 is $1700

idk $2200 seems high but if people are willing to pay it. Its still cheaper than a used very old 28/1.4 but as it stand thats $500 more than the canon model which seems about right canon 24-70 is $1200ish while the nikon is $17 almost 1800


Feb 09, 2010 at 05:02 PM
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That 16-35 is just screaming at me to buy it!
However, my wallet is screaming , "look at the freaking price" !


Feb 09, 2010 at 05:06 PM
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Chris Langer wrote:
I am afraid if the 24 f/1.4 is around $2200... That means the 35 f/1.4 when it comes out later this year most likely will be around 1800-2000. That is a lot.

Chris


Chris,

Actually, the closer you get to 44mm or slightly above, the easier it is to make an FX lens. Remember that the 50 f/1.4 AFS is only $500. I would expect a 35 f/1.4 to be in the $1000 range (give or take a few hundred).

Cheers,
Andre

P.S.

And for those upset about prices, there are two things to remember:

1) The value of the US$ had dropped over 25% from it's peak. So if the 24 f/1.4 had been introduces two years ago, it would have cost $1650 instead of $2200.

2) Nikon is clearly targeting FX for the professionals and DX for hobbiest and consumers. If you are a hobbiest and want high-performance glass without paying the FX premium, go DX. You will save yourself thousands of $$$ and give up ~ 1 stop of high-ISO performance. What you get with DX is still an order of magnitude better than we ever got with film.


Feb 09, 2010 at 05:18 PM
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