Register · Search · Software · Join Upload & Sell · Hosting

Moderated by: Fred Miranda
Username   Password

FM Forum Rules
Nikon SLRs, primes, and zooms lenses reviews
FM Forums | Nikon-mount SLRs | Join Upload & Sell   
Search Used
1 2 3 6
7
8 11 12 end
  

Archive 2010 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!
  
 
ISO1600
Offline
Dedicated FM
Upload & Sell: On
p.7 #1 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


Andre Labonte wrote:
Actually, the closer you get to 44mm or slightly above, the easier it is to make an FX lens. Remember that the 50 f/1.4 AFS is only $500. I would expect a 35 f/1.4 to be in the $1000 range (give or take a few hundred).


Remember that the recently discontinued (right?) 35/1.4 AIS was $750.
I do agree with you that a 35/1.4 AF-S will probably be closer to $1000 than $2000, but it probably won't be by much

Feb 09, 2010 at 06:37 PM
RalphJ
Offline
Upload & Sell: Off
p.7 #2 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


louis fusco wrote:
the 24 is fab, but the distortion on at 16 is a bit much for my liking, or has the base of the Statue of Liberty actually have the slope on the bottom bricks?


The slope is in the bricks, not the lens, as you can see here:


http://www.johnfranksdesign.com/images/liberty04.jp

(add a "g" to the end of URL; not my photo, and not my website; just a Google find)





Feb 09, 2010 at 06:46 PM
eSchwab
Offline
Upload & Sell: On
p.7 #3 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


I'm sure they put a ton of R&D into the 24. Just like they did with the 24-70, 14-24, and new 70-200mm. They cost a lot but they are amazing lenses. I'm sure if they had settled on an earlier, inferior design the lens would be cheaper, but then people would be complaining about the performance. Damned if you do... Just don't buy it. I probably won't, but I will get a 35mm 1.4 in a heartbeat.

Feb 09, 2010 at 06:57 PM
LuMax
Offline
Upload & Sell: Off
p.7 #4 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


Of course then there is always stealing!

Feb 09, 2010 at 07:16 PM
Gregory.Rotter
Offline
Upload & Sell: Off
p.7 #5 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


For which? The 24 or the 16-35? There's no way the 16-35 will be prices the same as the 14-24.

Feb 09, 2010 at 07:49 PM
Rodolfo Paiz
Offline
Dedicated FM
Upload & Sell: On
p.7 #6 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


No, it's not. The 16-35 is about $400-and-change less expensive than the 14-24, roughly 30%.

Feb 09, 2010 at 07:52 PM
euua
Offline
Upload & Sell: Off
p.7 #7 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


just got home and reading up on all news

16-35 good news for lots of people since not many want to have 14-24. If you have 17-35 I would not be so much enthusiastic about it. 1mm does not make that much difference and lost of 1 f stop on top of it.


24mm f1.4 is good news for pros but price tag for it 2200 WOW. good luck getting on of those. I have 24mm f2.8 and very much happy with it. Dont see why should I spend 2200 on half of stop less.


I agree with comments that Buy and Sell will be full of 14-24





Personally I have both 14-24 and 17-35 - i will be selling 17-35 shortly since not having filter on 14-24 does not bother me much.


If you want one let me know - will trade for 300mm f4 AFS as well


just my 0.02

Feb 09, 2010 at 07:53 PM
Mike Yamin
Offline
Upload & Sell: On
p.7 #8 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


Since you guys mentioned it, I'd love to see a 35mm f/1.4 since it'd be significantly cheaper and still semi-wide on an FX body.

Feb 09, 2010 at 07:55 PM
HerbChong
Offline
Dedicated FM
Upload & Sell: On
p.7 #9 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


don't say i didn't tell you so. they came in a bit cheaper than i thought they would at that but anyone who thought under $2K was dreaming.

Herb...

ISO1600 wrote:
hahhahaahhaha $2200



Feb 09, 2010 at 07:58 PM
Rodolfo Paiz
Offline
Dedicated FM
Upload & Sell: On
p.7 #10 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


euua wrote:
If you have 17-35 I would not be so much enthusiastic about it. 1mm does not make that much difference and lost of 1 f stop on top of it.


Remember that focal length and aperture are not the only things that matter. Distortion, color rendition, chromatic aberration, flare, contrast, sharpness, build quality, weather-sealing, AF speed and accuracy, focus ring motion and damping, and a ton of other factors matter when choosing a lens. It's never as simple as "Xmm and Y f-stops".

euua wrote:
24mm f1.4 is good news for pros but price tag for it 2200 WOW. good luck getting on of those. I have 24mm f2.8 and very much happy with it. Dont see why should I spend 2200 on half of stop less.


The actual outlay and the fair comparison would be the difference in price between the two, not the full $2,200. Also, the speed difference from f/2.8 to f/1.4 is not half a stop, but two full stops. When you're in a situation where that means either 1/60 @ f/1.4 or 1/15 @ f/2.8, then it matters a great deal and will certainly affect your perception of the two lenses' relative value. If you rarely or never find yourself in that kind of situation, then it won't matter much. But if you do, then it does.

Feb 09, 2010 at 08:00 PM
snegron
Offline
Dedicated FM
Upload & Sell: Off
p.7 #11 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


While I was waiting for an updated 24, I think the price for the new 1.4 is ridiculous! I can understand $600.00 or $700.00, but $2200.00 Thanks alot Nikon.

Feb 09, 2010 at 08:00 PM
Rodolfo Paiz
Offline
Dedicated FM
Upload & Sell: On
p.7 #12 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


How much does the older 24 cost, the one you felt needed an update?

Feb 09, 2010 at 08:02 PM
ISO1600
Offline
Dedicated FM
Upload & Sell: On
p.7 #13 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


Herb, i was predicting at least 1600-1800. I am not phased by the price, as i don't want a 24mm.

euua- the 24/1.4 is more than half a stop faster than your 2.8. 1.4-2-2.8 that is two stops.

Feb 09, 2010 at 08:02 PM
 



HerbChong
Offline
Dedicated FM
Upload & Sell: On
p.7 #14 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


the 17-35 is a bit soft in the extreme corners when stopped down and center sharpness is very good, but not as good as the newest lenses.

Herb...

tuannie wrote:
Well lots of people are using the 17-35



Feb 09, 2010 at 08:04 PM
Rodolfo Paiz
Offline
Dedicated FM
Upload & Sell: On
p.7 #15 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


I was dead wrong since I've never needed nor used the fast wide primes... I guessed $900.

I am fazed by the price because it's way out of my normal shooting style. But if you need that fast/wide prime, and judging from the number of people who've continuously bitched about the lack thereof for the last couple of years, then I'd say it will probably be a huge success for Nikon (meaning, they'll sell as many or perhaps many more than what they forecasted).

Feb 09, 2010 at 08:04 PM
Jammy Straub
Offline
Dedicated FM
Upload & Sell: Off
p.7 #16 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


Shutterslam wrote:
Did you guys see the examples on[FLICKR]?


Thank you for sharing the link! We need more examples!

Feb 09, 2010 at 08:07 PM
Gregory.Rotter
Offline
Upload & Sell: Off
p.7 #17 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


snegron wrote:
While I was waiting for an updated 24, I think the price for the new 1.4 is ridiculous! I can understand $600.00 or $700.00, but $2200.00 Thanks alot Nikon.



This is the funniest thing I've read all day. a 24 1.4 for $700? WOW, where can I get the stuff you're smoking?

Considering the price of the 14 f2.8 prime, I think the 24 1.4 logically, should be priced similarly.

Feb 09, 2010 at 08:15 PM
ISO1600
Offline
Dedicated FM
Upload & Sell: On
p.7 #18 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


Has anybody yet seen a picture of the new lenses mounted on a camera (D3, D700) with hoods, so we can get a good scope of their scale?

Feb 09, 2010 at 08:17 PM
HerbChong
Offline
Dedicated FM
Upload & Sell: On
p.7 #19 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


my prediction was close to $3K. i am too high but much more realistic than all those predicting in the $1K range. i'm not interested in any f1.4 wide prime anyway as i wouldn't use it at f1.4. f11 performance in a wide prime matters most to me. OTOH, i would like to see the updated 85/1.4 sooner rather than later and i expect it to be over $1.5K, perhaps well over. still that is much cheaper than getting an equivalent FOV on Hasselblad or Leica S2.

Herb...

ISO1600 wrote:
Herb, i was predicting at least 1600-1800. I am not phased by the price, as i don't want a 24mm.



Feb 09, 2010 at 08:17 PM
m_appeal
Offline
Upload & Sell: Off
p.7 #20 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


Yeah, $ 700 is a bit of a joke, but around $1500-1700 would have been a far more sensible price.

Feb 09, 2010 at 08:18 PM
HerbChong
Offline
Dedicated FM
Upload & Sell: On
p.7 #21 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


i figure 90% of those who complained and lusted won't buy one.

Herb...

Rodolfo Paiz wrote:
But if you need that fast/wide prime, and judging from the number of people who've continuously bitched about the lack thereof for the last couple of years, then I'd say it will probably be a huge success for Nikon (meaning, they'll sell as many or perhaps many more than what they forecasted).



Feb 09, 2010 at 08:18 PM
Avi B
Offline
Dedicated FM
Upload & Sell: On
p.7 #22 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


Well, the 24/1.4 came in at the price I predicted (Figured 2K +/- 10%).

I expect a 35/1.4 will be around 1800. I'd be surprised if it was less than 1500.

Feb 09, 2010 at 08:27 PM
Shutterslam
Offline
Upload & Sell: On
p.7 #23 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


Jammy Straub wrote:
Shutterslam wrote:
Did you guys see the examples on[FLICKR]?


Thank you for sharing the link! We need more examples!


That user, Lindsay, is like the senior technical director for Nikon - might be high time to start stalking their flickr streams.

Her (his) linked in [PROFILE]

Feb 09, 2010 at 08:32 PM
Gregory.Rotter
Offline
Upload & Sell: Off
p.7 #24 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


I was just looking at the price of the 14-24 in the UK at Grays of Westminster, at £1295. The RRP of this lens in the UK is £1635. That's 20% less than RRP. By that logic I expect the 16-35 F4 to be priced at around £839. That still seems a bit high by my standards. I'd rather buy a used 18-35 for half that. A new 18-35 costs £535. I suppose the addition of Nano coating and IS makes up for the difference in price, but still.

*EDIT*

Just realised, I've got a spare 77mm UV 0 filter. In that case, I MUST be it

Feb 09, 2010 at 08:33 PM
Beni
Offline
Dedicated FM
Upload & Sell: Off
p.7 #25 · 24 1.4 and 16-35 VR OFFICIAL!


Told a PJ friend about the 16-35, he put himself on a waiting list 10 minutes after, he loves the idea of that lens.

Feb 09, 2010 at 08:42 PM




FM Forums | Nikon-mount SLRs | Join Upload & Sell
1 2 3 6
7
8 11 12 end
    
 

You are not logged in. Login or Register

  Username   Password  
Lost your password?