Bmeister wrote:
I went target shooting this past weekend on a friend's farm; one of the things we "blew up" this time was his old and disfunctional 1V. I would have taken a picture or two and some video but forgot my camera gear at home. Are 35mm film bodies worth anything anymore beyond what they can fetch for scrap metal? Not having shot film in over thirteen years the present value of those bodies escapes me.
Wow....Do you live in a cave or just the back of your truck when you're not "shootin sumpthin"?
You've obviously never used a high end camera like the 1VHS, or anything close, but it's still the best camera Canon ever made IMO. Better than all 1 series digital from an ergonomic perspective, 10 FPS if you wanted it, consistently working AF, and a very solid build. It's a shame you shot it as it would probably have been worth fixing...
I'll keep mine for a long time and though I don't shoot client work with it any more (none in the last year anyway) I still look forward to using it outside when the weather turns nice again...
I was reading a really old article, digital or die. Something along those lines, where the film shooters were saying that film was the only way to go.
At a recent photography meeting, on the back of one of the competition forms was a paper that had a slide film on it. I said "what's this, a matted photo?"
They said it was a slide film, and I said, "Where is that at, the smithsonian?" haha.
I used to have a 1VHS 2yrs back or so eventually sold it since I'm to lazy to shoot film.
Great camera though I've never held another camera that fit in your hand so well. I wish Canon would implement its design into something digital I have yet to hold a 1D or anything with a grip that comes close to the felling of holding a 1V.
I just realized that although I posted this thread, I neglected to give any opinion of my own...I purchased my 1st digital P&S in 2001 and my 1st DSLR in 2003 and never shot film again. While I have never missed shooting film in terms of practicality, I do lament the passing of the technology much like a car enthusiast who may prefer a carburater to fuel injection...not because it's more efficient but because it's more fun. I feel that way about film (and film cameras)...going on a week long mountain hike and shooting 6 rolls of film as opposed to 60GB of digital files really forced me to concentrate on composition & exposure. For those of us that did any dark-room work, that was part of the 'fun' too. I never used a Canon 1V but having used & owned an Olympus OM4T, I can categorically state there is (sadly) no digital equivalent....that camera was extremely compact, built like a tank, & had the best light meter at the time (blowing away anything from Nikon or Canon). For many of the same reasons, I'm sure users of the EOS 1V feel the same way. This is why it's worth noting the 'passage' of the 1V from the current product line to the 'archival' product line...it's the end of an era of sorts and arguably, the best if it's kind. The march of technology & consumerism doesn't stop and I'm not about to return to shooting film, driving a carburated car, or playing phonograph records...still, I do miss the way the turntable needle would skip on a scratchy record.
Interesting, how many folks are using the LP as an analogy for the film camera. As an audiophile/musician, I can tell you that far from being an anacronism, LPs - indeed analog sound in general - is enjoying a real resurgence in the audio community & more & more recordings are being re-released on LP. A harbinger for the film camera? Maybe - but more likely in MF than SLR I suspect.
Like many others here, I "cut my teeth" on film & still have an affinity for it (esp. the dark-room fun!). So much so that I bought a 1V last year & recently dug out my old Olympus OM1. Nonetheless, I'm sad to see the quiet demise of film (if that is truly the case) from Canon's retail lineup.
Bmeister wrote:
Not having shot film in over thirteen years the present value of those bodies escapes me.
Digital in 1997 was really crappy. Even those $30,000 frankinEOS/Kodak monsters were turds compared to the worse film of the day.
Yes, musicians really try hard to recreate the beauty of analog sound from vac tube preamps, mics, processors to plugin analog simulators. We do everything possible to rid ourselves of the cold digital sonic signature. Kind of a waste with low rez MP3 players as the norm but I guess we're the pixel peepers of audio. What's funny are the guys that add LP static tracks to give it a fake sampled LP sound!
The high end turntable market has never seen better designs. I suspect all the well-heeled baby boomers are buying their dream turntables. The later generation will have no memories of LPs and turntables beyond DJ jive.
35mm film will never die. The reason being that while for all practical reasons digital is far better, 35mm has it's own look and novelty factor. Lots of kids nowadays think it is cool to go around shooting a Nikon F or and old Pentax or even plastic fantastic stuff like Lomos. Eventually they get bored but then there is another batch of people wanting to try it. So film might decline a bit more or not but will certainly stabilise. And there will always be a few billions of people in developing countries that do not own a computer.
120 film is another story, it has quite a bit to go until a 100MP back is less than $2000; it will then go the same way as 135 film. Even then, it looks like digital backs are pretty much stuck at 645 sizes, so a 6x7 or sheet film will still have that different larger format look.
In the meantime, I just ordered a few more bricks of 135 and 120. And feel free to send me any of your obsolete film cameras!
For those of you don't think the 35mm is dying please find me a buyer that willing to pay $800 for my Mint in box 1VHS, otherwise I'm going to say the best film camera is useless and worthless. And please don't say you got an awsome deal on a used 1V for $250 on ebay because that is another sign the 1V price is dropping fast.
I got rid of my 8 tracks, my tape deck, 45 record player, and VHS. I should have sold my 1V 4 years ago when I had the chance, now it's like a VHS VCR seating on the shelf.
carlsbadbum wrote:
For those of you don't think the 35mm is dying please find me a buyer that willing to pay $800 for my Mint in box 1VHS, otherwise I'm going to say the best film camera is useless and worthless. And please don't say you got an awsome deal on a used 1V for $250 on ebay because that is another sign the 1V price is dropping fast.
I got rid of my 8 tracks, my tape deck, 45 record player, and VHS. I should have sold my 1V 4 years ago when I had the chance, now it's like a VHS VCR seating on the shelf....Show more →
Well you can still buy film for it and get it processed, so why is it worthless? I'll give you $50+postage for it if it is that useless Shame keeping such a fine camera collecting dust.
panos.v wrote:
I'll give you $50+postage for it if it is that useless.
See, you only willing to pay $50 for it so that concluded the 1V is worth less. There's a 1V with 25 rolls usage selling for $500 right now on the B&S, 4 years ago this is sold in minutes, it's been 3 hrs and not yet SOLD.
The 1V is a $2000 camera, but now a day you'll have a hard time finding one buying for that price.
