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troy12n
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In the last year, a friend of mine was burglarized and lost all his camera equipment, plus a ton of other stuff like his wife's jewelry, electronics, etc. He is having a hell of a time with his insurance company because they are either denying his claims on his camera equipment saying it is professional gear and was not appraised, etc.

In the past few weeks there has been a couple burglaries in my subdivision, so I called my insurance company to inquire if my equipment was covered. To my surprise, their answer was NO for the most part, and what was, would only be covered at depreciated "market value", not replacement value. They said I would have to get a new homeowners policy because the (un-named) company I am currently with does not allow individual "riders" to cover high value items.

Long story short, after a week and a half, they came back with a new policy that changed all of my "contents" coverage to replacement cost, and gave me a specific "high value items rider" which I included ALL my valuables (coins, all my gear, some guns) which would not have been covered by my base policy. On top of that, I would have to have all of my gear "appraised" and inspected to make sure it is all in working order. The result of this was my premiums would have gone up by about $1200 a year. I live in Florida and we have outrageous homeowners insurance in general due to the issue with Hurricanes and sinkholes, so this was quite a hit on top of what it was. I have about 10 grand in gear, all things included, plus some rare coins and stamps, so this seemed pretty excessive.

My question is what kind of coverage do most of you have, do any of you actually have riders or line item coverage or do you go to the extent of having a separate policy for gear?

Let me know what you have, how you did it, and what you pay for it.


Feb 08, 2010 at 07:20 PM
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I have separate coverage for all of my gear through State Farm. I'm actually not really sure what it is because they my agent doesn't consider it personal property (although the claims folks do). I just specified it was for my photo gear (she won't cover my iPhone, etc...).

Anyways, covers all my gear ($8-9kish) and all of my computer equipment ($4-5k) for about $200 a year. No deductible. They're great. My computer crapped out on me (while studying abroad no less), got them a repair estimate, and a check was in the mail within a week. Sweet!


Feb 08, 2010 at 07:31 PM
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I have a separate policy. It has been awhile, but there was something about marine in the name. The bottom line is I have $10,000 worth of replacement coverage for about $200-300/yr.


Feb 08, 2010 at 07:31 PM
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Seperate policy here as well. There is no depreciation of items, only if you change the value you want items to be insured for. I pay about 2% of the total value annually.

Feb 08, 2010 at 07:38 PM
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The Hartford, $50,000.00 of cameras, lenses, tripods, and other related equipment including, computers, studio equipment, errors and ommissions for about $1000.00 per year.


Feb 08, 2010 at 07:42 PM
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Separate policy with State Farm as well. I pay about $200/year for all my gear.

Feb 08, 2010 at 07:45 PM
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p.1 #7 · Insurance question


jerrykur wrote:
I have a separate policy. It has been awhile, but there was something about marine in the name. The bottom line is I have $10,000 worth of replacement coverage for about $200-300/yr.


One of the options my agent gave me but we did not go with because it was REALLY expensive was something like Inland Marine or something like that. I did a forum search on here and a lot of people had good things to say about USAA, but I do not qualify for that because I am not ex-military and none of my family is either.


Feb 08, 2010 at 07:46 PM
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rprouty wrote:
The Hartford, $50,000.00 of cameras, lenses, tripods, and other related equipment including, computers, studio equipment, errors and ommissions for about $1000.00 per year.


+ 1, with 2,000,000 in liability


Feb 08, 2010 at 08:09 PM
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Separate policy with Fireman's Fund via TCP&co. Similar to others, it's an ~$35k inland marine policy with a replacement value schedule. Plus ~$2M in liability. Covers a bunch of stuff I'd probably never claim [such rental gear while if mine is being reparied].

Nick


Feb 08, 2010 at 08:23 PM
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Inland Marine coverage through Farm Bureau as a rider on my homeowners policy. Premium runs about 1.1% per year of insured value. No depreciation, but I have to periodically provide updated replacement costs (and the premium adjusts accordingly). Covers EVERYTHING, even user stupidity. Very inexpensive peace-of-mind!

Feb 08, 2010 at 08:29 PM
 



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I got an inland marine through State Farm. You can also get insurance through some Photographic organizations like NPPA. I like the one through state farm even though it is the same price as my home owners insurance.

Feb 08, 2010 at 08:35 PM
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I've read that if you accept payment for your photography you can't add the equipment to the homeowner's policy. Can anyone confirm this? I only have a about $3-4,000 in photo gear - 5dmk ii and some lenses, but it would be nice to get it insured.

Feb 08, 2010 at 08:44 PM
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I have a separate "Personal Articles" policy with State Farm. It's for full replacement cost and requires proof of ownership for each item (receipt/invoice/etc.) and serial numbers for any items like bodies and lenses. I have a $250 deductable.

This covers me from any losses for any reason at home or any other location and even includes having accidents, like dropping a bag of gear off a cliff. Coverage is only provided under this policy because it's a hobby and not a business.

It gets updated each year as I add or delete items and if I recall correctly the last premium was about $325 for about $30,000 of coverage.


Feb 08, 2010 at 08:49 PM
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ilikeglass wrote:
I've read that if you accept payment for your photography you can't add the equipment to the homeowner's policy. Can anyone confirm this? I only have a about $3-4,000 in photo gear - 5dmk ii and some lenses, but it would be nice to get it insured.



Accepting payment for photography would mean you're in the photography business. So, while one might be able to get some kind of rider to their homeowners insurance, it's not a wise business move.

I would strongly encourage you to check with your own agent about this and not rely on an internet forum for your info but, yes, if you're in the photography business it only makes sense that one would have business insurance, including liability.

For about $450/year, my business policy through State Farm covers $25k worth of gear (photo and computers) with $2m in liability.

No way I would have any idea of the OP is getting a raw deal or not. But I would say if one is not in the photo business, the hobby would be like any other potentially expensive hobby. The more you have dropped into expensive photo gear, boats, motorcycles, rare coins, antiques--you name it--the more your insurance is likely going to cost.


Feb 08, 2010 at 08:58 PM
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Coins and stamps could be in Bank Deposit to save having to list them. That can be costly. At least that is where I have mine to avoid the insurance cost. If the vault burns and my gold melts it is still good. Stamps not as forgiving.
photo.net members have an insurance option of $150.00 for $15,000 of equipment plus $175.00 for liability. Have not used it but it is better than having it on a personal policy which may not cover you if you ever make money from photos.


Feb 08, 2010 at 09:09 PM
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Yes, I made it clear to my agent that I do not do this professionally. I have heard that if you make money from photography your homeowners policy will NOT cover you. I think that is more of an OUT for them.

Feb 08, 2010 at 09:14 PM
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+1 I have the same type of policy, from Fireman's Fund been really good. And TCP&Co is really friendly to deal with.....

Feb 08, 2010 at 09:20 PM
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You also need to be careful of your line of photography business. I know being a photojournalist excludes you from most policies. You are going to have to pay more, but it is better than being denied a claim if they find out what you do.

Feb 08, 2010 at 10:00 PM
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Same story as most. Personal articles stand alone policy with State farm. I get a multi line discount for having my car and house insured with them. 4k of coverage, 0$ deductible for about 80$ year

Feb 08, 2010 at 10:24 PM
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Zoeysmom wrote:
Same story as most. Personal articles stand alone policy with State farm. I get a multi line discount for having my car and house insured with them. 4k of coverage, 0$ deductible for about 80$ year


State Farm is pulling out of Florida because the Insurance Commission denied their request to raise homeowners policies 47%. Yes, you read that right. So they are dropping all their homeowners policies.


Feb 09, 2010 at 12:00 AM
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