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 p.4 #7 · Leica 100mm APO macro - hard to beat | |
zombii wrote:
My issue with this whole chain of conversation, in addition to the ridiculous premise, is that the result is that the thread of conversation about and images from this lens was disrupted and not for the better. Before someone points it out for me and I'm sure they will, I'll apologize for posting an image not taken with the APO 100. My bad on that but I was trying to be supportive not contentious.
Frankly, I've stopped reading a number of threads on here (the 3D thread comes to mind) either because of this nature of discussion or because there are a few on here who not only think they have all the answers but think they have to shout down anybody who isn't in line with their opinions. Life is too short and I learn absolutely nothing of value from a "conversation" of that sort. If someone is so bored that they feel the need to start something like this, why not pick up the camera and go shoot something instead? That, at least, would be a positive outlet for their energy and not waste other people's time who are trying to find something of value in the thread.
Sorry for the further interruption. Somebody please post some images with the APO 100 so we can get on with it.
Grenache wrote:
Bifurcator,
It is rather difficult to take you seriously since you enjoy playing the role of habitual naysayer, or, more aptly, "non seer."
I can only conclude one of the following:
1. You enjoy arguing by your nature just to ruffle feathers.
2. You truly don't see a difference in ANY of the threads where you have voiced this and see youself as the only one who realized the Emperor has no clothes.
3. You lack the experience see for yourself and/or desire to learn other points of view (similar to #1 but with less premeditation).
4. You simply have a different and unshakable opinion of the way the world spins.
Not sure which of the four apply, or perhaps there is a category that I missed, but none of them provide much hope for reasonable (or reasoned) discourse.
From my experience, having shot film and digital for many years and probably dozens of different lenses and combinations of lenses and adapters, diopters, tubes, etc. from different vendors, I can say without reservation that the Leica 100 R is the best and most reliable that I have used among them all. Are their situations where a longer or shorter focal length or wider aperture work better? Of course, that is why I seldom bring just one lens when I go to shoot. However, when I do only have time, space, or desire to take a single lens to shoot close ups, this is it.
While AF on my former Canon 100 macro helped speed up the process - and good shots were certainly obtainable - the bokeh and tonal detail are on a different scale. What surprises me is the huge difference in sharpness and tonal separation visible on my modest 8MP sensor. I can only imagine how much wider the gap will be once I uprade.
Can perfectly good shots be had from P&S cameras? Of course, and the photographer has far more to do with overall success than the gear. I did quite well with my first digital camera, an Olympus C-5050. Only 5MP, but it had an f/1.8 lens that was quite sharp even wide open.
A butcher knife and a scalpel will both cut well, but if I had to go in for surgery, I know which I would want my doctor to use.
Jim
If the "someone" actually got out of his armchair, he would have to do something positive, we can't have that happening now, can we?
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