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partitura wrote:
I bought my 25mm ZF used, and feel like it has opened a new world for me. (even though I've had it only a few days). I've been interested to see that the 25 is not nearly as commonly represented in this thread as are other Zeiss models..


Oh, another 25 owner!
it is considered as one of the weaker lenses in the Zeiss lineup. This has two reasons: Zeiss is redesigning it, so people who are interested in the focal length are waiting for the newer (possibly f2.0 version) and it had been turned down at some test reviews due to its field curvature which is strong at close distances, but not necessarily a bad thing, if you know how to use it or to avoid it. Admittedly it results in soft edges often.

The lens is very sharp though, and some claim even sharper than the 21 closed down. There was a discussion about that (and some images posted) and more about this lens at this thread:
25/28/35 opinions please

waiting for your pictures with it



Apr 16, 2011 at 02:52 PM
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Apr 16, 2011 at 02:58 PM
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p.356 #3 · p.356 #3 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Vincent and Philippe, not sure what you are trying to accomplish by just posting 50/1.4 shots but if you are trying to compare both 50's then you need same shot with both lenses.
Samuli's has posted shots which show the faster focus rolloff of the 50/1.4 vs.50MP which gives you better subject isolation and 3-d. This was after I mentioned this behavior to him that I had seen with my copies. The other week I posted forest landscape shots which showed this with both 50's and also between both my 35/2 and C/Y 35/1.4 in the 35 thread.



Apr 16, 2011 at 03:04 PM
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p.356 #4 · p.356 #4 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


I will add that this faster rolloff difference is when stopped down and occurring within the theoretical DOF after which both lenses transition quickly to OOF.
This rolloff of focus from front to back in a scene shows relative distance between objects and the camera and renders volume around shapes better.
A scene like Samuli's forest shots with repetitive tree trunks/columns is perfect for showing this behavior difference.



Apr 16, 2011 at 03:20 PM
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carstenw wrote:
I had an odd thing happen today. I was making some test shots with the 50MP, and found that I couldn't focus where I wanted. I tried the center of the view, no problem. Tried again a bit lower and to the left, and again missed, by quite a bit. I tried both with and without the focus point assistance, but I just couldn't focus in that part of the photo. Very weird, and I can't explain it. I tried in other parts of the image, no problem. Just for some reason, for this one composition I couldn't get the
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I have a weird picture from 50MP, but it was shot through a windshield, which may have contributed to that effect. Here is a 100% off center crop from a shot with a focal plane somewhere near the traffic lights. Notice that the traffic lights are more or less in focus, the building right behind is out of focus (shot at f/4.5), but the building in the back appears sharp again...

















Apr 16, 2011 at 03:38 PM
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p.356 #6 · p.356 #6 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Wow, that is an odd one! It is a very cool lens, but it sure has some strange behaviour. Is this sharpness phenomenon also visible in the original?


Apr 16, 2011 at 06:23 PM
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wayne seltzer wrote:
Samuli's has posted shots which show the faster focus rolloff of the 50/1.4 vs.50MP which gives you better subject isolation and 3-d. This was after I mentioned this behavior to him that I had seen with my copies. The other week I posted forest landscape shots which showed this with both 50's and also between both my 35/2 and C/Y 35/1.4 in the 35 thread.


Vincent, thanks for the shots, which show the effect I am referring to. I cannot compare directly to my 50 MP shot though, since it looks like you were a lot closer to your subject than I to mine.

Wayne, do you know roughly where I can find Samuli's and your comparison shots? I would love to take a look, before deciding whether or not to add a 50/1.4.



Apr 16, 2011 at 06:24 PM
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p.356 #8 · p.356 #8 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Carsten, try this: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/860134/53

I've bookmarked that one as an interesting discussion about MP vs. 1.4.



Apr 16, 2011 at 06:31 PM
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p.356 #9 · p.356 #9 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Some BW work on an small village in Brazil,called Tiradentes...First one ZE 35/2, last three ZE 100/2.
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Apr 16, 2011 at 09:19 PM
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p.356 #10 · p.356 #10 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Those are great, André, especially the first one!


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p.356 #11 · p.356 #11 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Very very nice BW work Vallejo, for me no 3 and 4 does the trick. This despite the sky in 4 is a bit intrusive, but still impressive. Is that PP/heavy recovery or what's with the grain?


Apr 16, 2011 at 09:34 PM
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p.356 #12 · p.356 #12 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Tks wfrank and carsten...the image was a HDR,the conversion was done in Nik's Silver Efex Pro with a modified Wet Rocks preset, that added the grain. It looks nice on the print, sometimes not so much on the screen...
André
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Apr 16, 2011 at 09:50 PM
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p.356 #13 · p.356 #13 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Vallejo, 1 and 3 are my favs, good work


Apr 16, 2011 at 09:57 PM
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p.356 #14 · p.356 #14 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


carstenw wrote:
50MP wide open. This lens does seem to carry a lot of depth of field for its focal length.


About a stop more in apparent DOF compared to the 50 Planar at the same aperture. Samuli did some tests back in the day when this thread was > 50% technical discussions

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/860134/57#8518296

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/860134/57#8519074

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/860134/63#8541460

The 100 MP is actually no different. If you compare it to say the Canon 100/2.8 Macro at f/2.8 you'll see that the Zeiss appears to have a larger DOF.

This of course has to do with the type of sharpness-to-blur transition. Usually highly corrected lenses have a sharp transition, but Zeiss seems to have done some voodo with the Makro Planars.



Apr 16, 2011 at 09:58 PM
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p.356 #15 · p.356 #15 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


vallejo wrote:
Some BW work on an small village in Brazil,called Tiradentes...First one ZE 35/2, last three ZE 100/2.


3rd one works for me. Great shot.
















Apr 16, 2011 at 10:24 PM
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p.356 #16 · p.356 #16 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Quick landscape attempt with zf25.
The landscape near me is not so interesting
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Apr 16, 2011 at 10:26 PM
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p.356 #17 · p.356 #17 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Discussions aside i love my 50MP one of the best amongst my other 50mms (i have 6)



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Apr 16, 2011 at 10:36 PM
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Apr 16, 2011 at 10:42 PM
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p.356 #19 · p.356 #19 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


hello everyone in this awesome thread, happy weekend.
autumn 2010 around Kyoto :







around Mt. Fuji :





all from 100MP



Apr 17, 2011 at 03:01 AM
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p.356 #20 · p.356 #20 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Pace of this thread is picking up quite a bit. 300 pages will be in 10 days or something.

Thank you very much folks for your comment.

Lars - Wonderful portraits from street. Bird selling child shot is quite powerful.

Carsten - Last time Samli was around, he mentioned about 50MP's filed curvature at infinity. I don't think that is related to Carsten's focusing challenge. Could that be oil on view finder ?

Really liking the shot of wood chopper ? Great color, texture. Bokeh got a bit oversharpened ( tree on left area caught my attention ) ?

Vincent - wonderful works with 50 planar Love that towing truck (?) shot, especially the 1.4 shot.

prosep - nice flower shot

OnAnt - Great street shots with 21. Wonderful lighting on all of them. I really like the way how lighting is accentuating subject in all shots. Last shot is gorgeous capture of joy, laughter.

Dubaiphil - quite a detail on that shot. Nice capture of boats on the water

steveu - Powerful portrait with 35 f1.4. Color looks great.

Alkanphel - Lovely b/w macro. Beautiful capture of dew

nickson - nice b/w tone on the first shot

Mirek - could it be heat dissipating from building facade?

vallejo - Stunnin B/W. Love the first two shots. Man on the door step with a dog, that is a great moment you captured.

Uzay - Very nice composition. Stepping shelves and cat on the sidewalk, somehow creates a diagonal connection. Was the focus on door knob ?

johnahill - I like the deep sky and field of flowers.

kururu - Beautiful shots. Great color. Love them all, but in particular, #4 momiji leaf shot is just super !!

Akul

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