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Yakim Peled
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p.2 #1 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


PetKal wrote:
I guess Yakim should remember similarly confusing/questionable Adorama's eBay auctions of 200 f/1.8 a few months ago.


Indeed he does.

PetKal wrote:
It is a bit surprising our friend Helen Oster has not paid this thread a visit yet.


I'm positive she will do this soon.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.




Nov 22, 2009 at 11:08 AM
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p.2 #2 · Adorwin 500 f/4 Jewel of a Deal ?


Who would buy a lens with so many problems from a camera shop? If it was worthwhile to repair, don't you think they would have

Oh wait...ebay4PETKAL is the high bidder!!

Nov 22, 2009 at 11:15 AM
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PetKal wrote:


It is a bit surprising our friend Helen Oster has not paid this thread a visit yet.





I will send her a PM with a link to this thread

Nov 22, 2009 at 12:02 PM
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Apologies for missing this thread - thanks Yakim & Lars for the heads up; I've left a message for the department manager and will report back when I get a response.

PetKal; thanks for your suggestions; can't really disagree with you........

Helen

Nov 22, 2009 at 12:21 PM
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Helen,
thanks for the fast response


Lars

Nov 22, 2009 at 12:30 PM
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Thank you, Helen, it will be interesting to see what corrective action that group will implement, as manifested on the listing of the subject lens as well as elsewhere.

Nov 22, 2009 at 12:37 PM
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dave miner wrote:
"Internal dust, Haze, Fungus and condesation"

That's another description for water damage.

Dave


That would explain the rusty tripod mount.

Antje

Nov 22, 2009 at 02:04 PM
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On the upside, the case looks like it's in D or even N condition.


Nov 22, 2009 at 04:18 PM
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fredmaurer wrote:
Description says:
"Internal dust, Haze, Fungus and condensation. Autofocus doesn't work" Sounds like buyer beware on this item

"Infernal dust, Hades, fun-guns and condescension. Auto-da-fé doesn't work."
Hmm, where was the lens used?

Nov 22, 2009 at 04:22 PM
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fredmaurer wrote:
Description says:
"Internal dust, Haze, Fungus and condensation. Autofocus doesn't work" Sounds like buyer beware on this item

"Infernal dust, Hades, fun-guns and condescension. Auto-da-fé doesn't work."
Hmm, where was the lens used?


Guantanamo ?

Nov 22, 2009 at 04:51 PM
 



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Now, let us see how enterprising some of you lads have been.
What if yet another typo crept into the lens description so that what they realy meant to say was " No internal dust, haze, fungus and condensation" ?

How do we find that out ? Well, from the horse's mouth, I guess.
If so, that lens might be put back in service for an estimated $1,000 (new hood+ AF repair).......that would bring the total lens cost to $3,500, assuming you are the only bidder. Now, where else can you buy a complete, functional, and not too ugly looking 500 f/4 for $3,500 ?

Nov 22, 2009 at 07:26 PM
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PetKal wrote:
Now, let us see how enterprising some of you lads have been.
What if yet another typo crept into the lens description so that what they realy meant to say was " No internal dust, haze, fungus and condensation" ?

How do we find that out ? Well, from the horse's mouth, I guess.
If so, that lens might be put back in service for an estimated $1,000 (new hood+ AF repair).......that would bring the total lens cost to $3,500, assuming you are the only bidder. Now, where else can you buy a complete, functional, and not too ugly looking 500 f/4 for $3,500 ?

I'll bet you're right. Waiting to hear from Helen.

Nov 22, 2009 at 07:30 PM
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PetKal wrote:
Photon wrote:
fredmaurer wrote:
Description says:
"Internal dust, Haze, Fungus and condensation. Autofocus doesn't work" Sounds like buyer beware on this item

"Infernal dust, Hades, fun-guns and condescension. Auto-da-fé doesn't work."
Hmm, where was the lens used?


Guantanamo ?

That's an anagram of "manta guano". Didn't know they did that, but maybe they're related to the "tree sharks" that infest your bird feeders?

Nov 22, 2009 at 07:32 PM
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Photon wrote:
PetKal wrote:
Photon wrote:
fredmaurer wrote:
Description says:
"Internal dust, Haze, Fungus and condensation. Autofocus doesn't work" Sounds like buyer beware on this item

"Infernal dust, Hades, fun-guns and condescension. Auto-da-fé doesn't work."
Hmm, where was the lens used?


Guantanamo ?

That's an anagram of "manta guano". Didn't know they did that, but maybe they're related to the "tree sharks" that infest your bird feeders?


Jess, today you seem to be driven lexically even more than usual.

Nov 22, 2009 at 07:44 PM
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dave miner wrote:
"Internal dust, Haze, Fungus and condesation"

That's another description for water damage.

Dave



Or a lens that was used in a high-humidity environment such as Hawaii, Puerto Rico, etc.

Nov 22, 2009 at 08:48 PM
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No bids, didn't sell. I was thinking that one of the local FM lens brokers might snatch it up, have it fixed and then list it on B&S for $4,800 or something like that.

Nov 23, 2009 at 03:55 AM
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My conclusion, after several attempts to get some sense from the 'Adorwin' crew, is that there are some communication problems - on a number of levels.......



Nov 24, 2009 at 09:25 PM
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My conclusion, after several attempts to get some sense from the 'Adorwin' crew, is that there are some communication problems - on a number of levels.......



Thank you for the update, Helen.
As a consumer I must tell you that the Adorwin operation doesn't inspire much confidence. Which is a real pitty, because we, again as consumers, are deprived of a potentially good equipment supply source. Obviously, not good for Adorama's business either.

A patient can seldom self-diagnose their affliction. Similarly, that eBay crew might require an outside superior's intervention to help them in their efforts to improve.

Nov 24, 2009 at 09:47 PM
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Thank you for the update, Helen.
As a consumer I must tell you that the Adorwin operation doesn't inspire much confidence. Which is a real pity, because we, again as consumers, are deprived of a potentially good equipment supply source. Obviously, not good for Adorama's business either.

A patient can seldom self-diagnose their affliction. Similarly, that eBay crew might require an outside superior's intervention to help them in their efforts to improve.


I can't disagree; I think it's going to take a little time, but that's what I'm here for.

Helen

Nov 27, 2009 at 01:49 PM




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