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p.1 #1 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

I shot a regional Cheer Fest this past Sunday. The company I shot for decided not to strobe the event this year and shoot available light. I shot with the D3 and the 70-200 VR. I did a preset WB four or five times throughout the event to keep the WB close. I shot f 2.8 with SS of 1/125 to 1/320 ISO 6400
As you can see not the optimal shooting scenario. Over all the pictures came out well. I am amazed at the D3 at ISO 6400. I have applied no NR to these at all.
I am anxious to see how the sell vs, last years strobed shots.
I know these pale in comparison to the cheer shots posted by Hammy bunch but was pleased with getting some usable/sellable shots
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Nov 10, 2009 at 06:30 PM

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p.1 #2 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

Wow... no NR... I wish my little XSi could do that. Good shots!

Nov 10, 2009 at 06:33 PM

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p.1 #3 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

stunning images. great work

Nov 10, 2009 at 06:39 PM

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p.1 #4 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

mmcatee wrote:
I know these pale in comparison to the cheer shots posted by Hammy bunch but was pleased with getting some usable/sellable shots

Don't kid yourself! Those are fantastic shots!!

Personally, I've NEVER strobed an event - and I can sell or outsell better than other companies that do strobe (I've worked with several)
And the newer ISO capabilities are very enticing to make shots as good as what you've shown here.

The only shot that stands out would be #8. The high angle and wide view make the background too distracting. Otherwise, if the rest of them are full frame, then they are all winners! I'm speaking from a sales perspective: shots need to be ready to sell from the camera.

Again, great stuff!

Hammy.

Nov 10, 2009 at 07:40 PM

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p.1 #5 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

Hi Mike,
This event was at Warwick High School? I looked into doing that event but, I found out someone was already locked it up. You traveled from Cherry Hill to shoot this? My son use to play legion baseball against Cherry Hill and I traveled down there a couple times to the baseball convention they have there. Is the guy who got the event local or from down by you? If I knew that I woulda came over to see ya. I was shooting a playoff game in Goshen, not far away. Anyway, great shots! That D3 is something else! I gotta get me one of those.
Bob

Nov 10, 2009 at 08:28 PM

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p.1 #6 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

Bob Cox wrote:
Is the guy who got the event local or from down by you?

I'm just dyin to see how you answer that one Mike.

Nov 10, 2009 at 09:56 PM

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p.1 #7 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

Wow, that's great quality for ISO 6400.

Nov 10, 2009 at 10:15 PM

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p.1 #8 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

These are all excellent. I too tend to avoid strobes, I only use them if necessary.

Nov 10, 2009 at 11:42 PM

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p.1 #9 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

Those shots are freakin insane! 6400 iso at 2.8? Look at the skin tones. Look at that black uniform. It's black. My shot would be a posterized palatte of two greens, a red, and blue for every pixel that was supposed to be black. At 3200 iso.

Beyond that, you've got the secret of shooting youth sports... isolation and expression. Like Hammy (the Oz, the Ultimate, the Godfather, gee, has anyone ever really met this guy?) always says... you are shooting kids playing (insert sport), not the sport itself.

Nov 11, 2009 at 03:13 AM

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p.1 #10 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

Focus Locus wrote:
Like Hammy (the Oz, the Ultimate, the Godfather, gee, has anyone ever really met this guy?)

No, but he's behind that curtain somewhere I think.

Nov 11, 2009 at 03:30 AM

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p.1 #11 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

Okay .... I'm going to be THAT guy ..... #3 isn't one I would want on the internet and I doubt the parents would want it on the net, either. There's some people ... uh .... interesting people in internet land.

Otherwise, great shots.

Nov 11, 2009 at 03:39 AM

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p.1 #12 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

I agree with Jonathan, sad but true. The skin tones look a little yellow to me. Excellent shots though.

Nov 11, 2009 at 03:50 AM

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p.1 #13 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

I had to scroll back up and see what the heck Jonathan was talking about? I never even noticed this the first time through, I just looked at the faces. It never occurred to me to look down there, where there is no face at all. None of the bases have faces to look at. Eight people before hand, including some serious cheer shooters (Paul, and the man behind the curtain known as Hammy) commented on these pics and never mentioned this. Is this seriously an issue? Hard to even imagine.

One doesn't have throw the baby out with the bath water to address this (non issue, imho)... just crop out everything below the W, crop out the unnecessary ceiling light above her head, turning this vertical frame into a horizontal. No need to lose the joy in her face and the victory of budding self confidence inherent in her hand gesture by deleting the picture altogether.

Nov 11, 2009 at 04:58 AM

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Jonathan Knight wrote:
Okay .... I'm going to be THAT guy ..... #3 isn't one I would want on the internet and I doubt the parents would want it on the net, either. There's some people ... uh .... interesting people in internet land.

Otherwise, great shots.

I have replaced that picture.

Nov 11, 2009 at 12:50 PM

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p.1 #15 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

KAJed wrote:
Wow... no NR... I wish my little XSi could do that. Good shots!
The newer cameras open up a whole different way of shooting,

Nov 11, 2009 at 12:51 PM

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p.1 #16 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

DannWunderlich wrote:
stunning images. great work

thanks Dann appreciate you taking the time to comment

Nov 11, 2009 at 12:51 PM

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p.1 #17 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

Hammy wrote:
mmcatee wrote:
I know these pale in comparison to the cheer shots posted by Hammy bunch but was pleased with getting some usable/sellable shots

Don't kid yourself! Those are fantastic shots!!

Personally, I've NEVER strobed an event - and I can sell or outsell better than other companies that do strobe (I've worked with several)
And the newer ISO capabilities are very enticing to make shots as good as what you've shown here.

The only shot that stands out would be #8. The high angle and wide view make the background too distracting. Otherwise, if the rest of them are full frame, then they are all winners! I'm speaking from a sales perspective: shots need to be ready to sell from the camera.

Again, great stuff!

Hammy.

Thanks Hammy I appreciate the kind words. I see what you mean about #8 almost are all full frame just cropped for composition sake. When dealing with events like this no one has time for much PP cause time = money. Thanks for your thoughts I really appreciate it.

Nov 11, 2009 at 12:53 PM

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Bob Cox wrote:
Hi Mike,
This event was at Warwick High School? I looked into doing that event but, I found out someone was already locked it up. You traveled from Cherry Hill to shoot this? My son use to play legion baseball against Cherry Hill and I traveled down there a couple times to the baseball convention they have there. Is the guy who got the event local or from down by you? If I knew that I woulda came over to see ya. I was shooting a playoff game in Goshen, not far away. Anyway, great shots! That D3 is something else! I gotta get me one of those.
Bob
Hi Bob yes that is where the event was. The owner of the company has ties to this area. I traveled up Saturday night and spent the night before the shoot. This is one of my further travels via car but sometimes you have to drive to where the work is...

. Maybe next time we can arrange a meet n greet. Thanks for looking

Nov 11, 2009 at 12:56 PM

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p.1 #19 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

P Alesse wrote:
Bob Cox wrote:
Is the guy who got the event local or from down by you?

I'm just dyin to see how you answer that one Mike.

Nov 11, 2009 at 12:56 PM

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p.1 #20 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

Caleb Williams wrote:
Wow, that's great quality for ISO 6400.
Thanks Caleb I appreciate you looking

Nov 11, 2009 at 12:57 PM

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p.1 #21 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

Focus Locus wrote:
Those shots are freakin insane! 6400 iso at 2.8? Look at the skin tones. Look at that black uniform. It's black. My shot would be a posterized palatte of two greens, a red, and blue for every pixel that was supposed to be black. At 3200 iso.

Beyond that, you've got the secret of shooting youth sports... isolation and expression. Like Hammy (the Oz, the Ultimate, the Godfather, gee, has anyone ever really met this guy?) always says... you are shooting kids playing (insert sport), not the sport itself.

Well thanks for the high praise I am blushing here. I do agree with Hammy if that is his steement. to me it is about capturing emotion at an event if you can translate that in your shots you are on the right path

Nov 11, 2009 at 12:58 PM

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Nov 11, 2009 at 12:59 PM

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p.1 #23 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

Awasos23 wrote:
I agree with Jonathan, sad but true. The skin tones look a little yellow to me. Excellent shots though.
Yes some of tones are a little off thanks for lookign and commenting

Nov 11, 2009 at 01:00 PM

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p.1 #24 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

Mike,

You certainly didn't have to replace it, but just seemed like a shot that may not have been the best to post on a public forum. It's a great expression and the parents would be wise to purchase, but it was definitely "awkward" timing and a poor angle (not that you could have adjust your angle soon enough to still capture the photo).

All the best.

Nov 12, 2009 at 04:41 PM

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p.1 #25 · Cheer at 6400 ISO

These look fantastic! Are you using the VR or VR II?

Nov 12, 2009 at 07:44 PM


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