Elisha82 wrote:
It's funny how the 1D and 5D owners don't like the 7D too much.
Feel threatened much?
The 7D is a superior camera to the 5DII in every way sans the bigger sensor and whatever else goes along with it.
Dawei Ye wrote:
Disagree about 5D2+7D features = less sales. If the 5D2 had just even decent AF, I don't think there would be any compelling reason to use the D700
Thing is, if Canon really felt threatened by that D700, we would've had a 3D now, not a 7D.
As it is, Canon already has 1Ds + 1D and 5D + 7D. I really don't see a 3D fitting anywhere in there as it would affect the sales of those cameras.
If there is a 3D, some features will have to be crippled so it won't affect their sales. What do you think that would be?
Have had it for a month now.
Don't see why anyone would want to compare a $1700 camera to a $2700 camera and say the $1700 one is worse.
I've used a 5DII and it is a lovely camera and awesome sensor. But that's the only advantage it has compared to the 7D.
the 5DII will never excel in sports or birding just like the 7D will not beat the 5DII in landscape or studio work.
Seems like those who paid 1k more for the 5DII need to keep commenting on how much better their camera is when the comparison is not from a level playing field.
Elisha82 wrote:
It's funny how the 1D and 5D owners don't like the 7D too much.
Feel threatened much?
The 7D is a superior camera to the 5DII in every way sans the bigger sensor and whatever else goes along with it.
Well some of us have both 5D2 and 7D so what is going on with us then?
a superior inferiority complex or just plain nuts?
anyway my take is the 7D does really well at higher ISO for an APS_C camera (but of course not as well as a 5D2, as only to be expected, aside from having less pattern banding which in the most extreme photos where everything is almost totally dark it might actually look a little better than the 5D2) but either through design or QC it has this weird issue that makes it do a lot worse, at least so far, at the lowest few ISOs than it should, it seems like it could do fantastically there too if only the G1 and G2 were in balance. Maybe ACR 5.6 will pull of a miracle....
yeah the fps and general body performance are WAYYYYYYY faster than with the 5D2 and it does have a lot more reach (although to this point, but hopefully not forever, that comes with some annoying artifacts)
skibum5 wrote:
Well some of us have both 5D2 and 7D
No arguments there.
Most bashers either only tried it for a brief moment or don't even own one.
It is currently the best CROP camera out at the moment bar none.
And I'm impressed how Canon is on the ball with firmware updates.
Elisha82 wrote:
No arguments there.
Most bashers either only tried it for a brief moment or don't even own one.
Why is it that these threads always turn into pissing matches between the last & the latest? And it seems to me exagerated claims get made by both sides. Obviously Canon consider these camera's to be aimed at different market segments, I'm not sure why there is a need to declare a "best"... Surely it's all relative to what you want to do with the camera?
Elisha82:
Seems like those who paid 1k more for the 5DII need to keep commenting on how much better their camera is when the comparison is not from a level playing field.
I am still not certain why you would look at crop at FF cameras as separate entities. I am looking for the best IQ and just waiting to see how 7D compares with 5D mkII and 5D. I could not care less about video and live view but the viewfinder and focus quality 0f 7D play a role for me.
You did not say what cameras you are comparing it to.
It's human nature...my gun is bigger and better than your gun . On the hand there are people like..it has to be perfect...perfect. it has to be tested by RG, DXO, DPREVIEW, CIA, KGB, etc ..and CHEAP.
globalkiwi wrote:
Why is it that these threads always turn into pissing matches between the last & the latest? And it seems to me exagerated claims get made by both sides. Obviously Canon consider these camera's to be aimed at different market segments, I'm not sure why there is a need to declare a "best"... Surely it's all relative to what you want to do with the camera?
n0b0 wrote:
5D2 + 7D features = Less sales not only on 5D2 but also 7D and 1D4 = not gonna happen.
It'll happen, but not until the 7D matures and the 1D4 has been out a while. When the sales of those two models taper, then you'll see the 5D3, or whatever it'll be called.
mfurman wrote:
I am still not certain why you would look at crop at FF cameras as separate entities. I am looking for the best IQ and just waiting to see how 7D compares with 5D mkII and 5D.
And I'm not at all certain why you're going to let DxO make the decision for you instead of trusting your own eyes.
keithreeder:
And I'm not at all certain why you're going to let DxO make the decision for you instead of trusting your own eyes.
It may be funny to you but I am not going to buy the camera just to test it. There are so many conflicting reports and tests that (after spending a month looking at that) I am just waiting for numbers.
The mazing skibum5 is talking about is probably caused by the halftone dots in the printed picture of the lady, along with color samples. So it's not a valid complaint...
their ACR 5.6 beta conversion maybe looked ok, remains to be seen
so far i think the 7D has a harsh, ugly look at low ISO using DPP and a little bit with C1 5 and especially using ACR 5.5 beta, acr 5.6 seems to be the only real hope at this point
Just bought a 7D by any chance?
