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p.1 #1 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

5DMKII flaws, please post your best pictures which were sadly lost through pattern noise or whatever flaw the Canon has to offer. No test shots please.

People are invited to offer solutions to safe the images or tips how to avoid the problem in the futur.

I am eager to see lots of unique images which were rendered useless by the 5D

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The thread s purpose is that we have a place to discuss problems of an excellent camera and offer solutions where possible. I am sick of people who jump in all threads with always the same irrelevant test shots.
At the same time I think with a new tool you always have to learn about limits and problems.

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p.1 #2 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

If a photo has been ruined, I'm not sure how it would represent one of our "best pictures"...well at least I hope not...

A tip would be to buy a better camera

Nov 03, 2009 at 03:07 PM

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p.1 #3 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

Doo-bop wrote:
5DMKII flaws, please post your best pictures which were sadly lost through pattern noise or whatever flaw the Canon has to offer. No test shots please.

People are invited to offer solutions to safe the images or tips how to avoid the problem in the futur.

I am eager to see lots of unique images which were rendered useless by the 5D

I have none.

Lots of bad pictures but none that were spoiled by the excellent camera.

Nov 03, 2009 at 03:10 PM

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p.1 #4 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

It never made a mistake, only I make the mistakes

Nov 03, 2009 at 03:11 PM

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p.1 #5 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

I didn't have any issues when I had my 5d2 for about 9 months. Sure I saw pattern noise, but only when I purposely increased the fill light in Lightroom, but I could do the same thing with my old 5D files.

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p.1 #6 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

Personally, I think the poor AF sensitivity and accuracy and speed of the 5D2 is more of an issue than the low ISO pattern noise. The inability to use the outer points is annoying too - for my low light purposes with fast primes, the 5D2 is essentially a 1 AF point camera...thank god for its excellent cropability.

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p.1 #7 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

A good image with proper exposure shouldn't be ruined in post unless the post processing is done by someone who doesn't know what they're doing. In the days of manual people had to deal with whatever came out the other end so complaining about banding etc is just because people have gotten used to the luxury of bumping up fill light etc.

This thread is pretty much flame bait, really.

Nov 03, 2009 at 03:15 PM

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A good image with proper exposure shouldn't be ruined in post unless the post processing is done by someone who doesn't know what they're doing. In the days of manual people had to deal with whatever came out the other end so complaining about banding etc is just because people have gotten used to the luxury of bumping up fill light etc.

This thread is pretty much flame bait, really.

Is 'manual' the new word for 'film' ?

Nov 03, 2009 at 03:19 PM

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richhrly wrote:
A good image with proper exposure shouldn't be ruined in post unless the post processing is done by someone who doesn't know what they're doing. In the days of manual people had to deal with whatever came out the other end so complaining about banding etc is just because people have gotten used to the luxury of bumping up fill light etc.

This thread is pretty much flame bait, really.

Is 'manual' the new word for 'film' ?

Actually I hope the thread will fill up with people saying the same us me, that the 5D2 is a terrific camera with no image issues in actual printed use (I agree the focusing system is looking tired) and some of the ludicrous scaremongering that has gone on is just the web doing what it does, which is circulating misinformation like a sewer.

Yeah, I didn't word it particularly well.

I agree entirely, my 5D2 has been fantastic in my experience. I even don't mind the focusing system that much - at least it's better than my old 300D

Nov 03, 2009 at 03:27 PM

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p.1 #10 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

the camera AF flaw or my skill?

Nov 03, 2009 at 03:40 PM

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p.1 #11 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

The thread s purpose of course is that we have a place to discuss problems of an excellent camera and offer solutions where possible. I am sick of people who jump in all threads with always the same irrelevant test shots.
At the same time I think with a new tool you always have to learn about limits and problems.

So far my 5D2 worked like a charm, I sometimes wish I could get a firmware upgrade for the photographer

Nov 03, 2009 at 03:42 PM

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p.1 #12 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

Well the bucket looks sharp and that's almost over one of the corner AF points, and that is at f4 so I think the camera did it's job fine.

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KKFung wrote:
the camera AF flaw or my skill?

Maybe a wide angle lens would help

Nov 03, 2009 at 03:44 PM

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p.1 #14 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

I didn't hang on to shots that were 'ruined', I typically deleted them.

Nov 03, 2009 at 04:10 PM

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p.1 #15 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

There must be dozens of threads on FM relating to this. Is a new one really needed?

Nov 03, 2009 at 04:21 PM

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p.1 #16 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

My shots that were ruined never made it onto the card, because they were a result of the camera not being able to acquire focus in time therefore not captured... It is why I use my 1 series cameras for critical work, other than landscape/travel.

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Nov 03, 2009 at 04:41 PM

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p.1 #17 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

Any digital image can be tortured into a ruin. My 5D II works fine. When I need the ultimate in reliability (mostly in AF but also in fault tolerance) I move up to the 1Ds line. It's prosumer quality vs professional quality in terms of market segmentation. I do not really see a scandal surrounding 5D II performance (as there was around the 1D3 focusing, for example).

Nov 03, 2009 at 04:54 PM

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p.1 #18 · 5DMKII flaws, post pictures which were lost because of the camera

versus 1Ds3:

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a crop to show how noise limits DR:

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Don't get me wrong - my 5D2's are really excellent cameras in many ways, and great value for money. But they aren't perfect, and the shadow noise does sometimes cause difficulties when I want to stretch dynamic range to the maximum.

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Dawei Ye wrote:
Personally, I think the poor AF sensitivity and accuracy and speed of the 5D2 is more of an issue than the low ISO pattern noise. The inability to use the outer points is annoying too - for my low light purposes with fast primes, the 5D2 is essentially a 1 AF point camera...thank god for its excellent cropability.

The problem with this (excellent cropability) when shooting with fast primes is that this means you're losing control over DOF by changing your subject distance. I shoot with fast primes when I want shallow DOF, but the greatest variable (even more important than aperture) is subject distance. The more effective and accurate method, particularly when striving for shallow DOF, is to frame your subject as accurately as possible in-camera without cropping. Another strong reason the 5D2 stays in my bag for critical low light work.

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Nov 03, 2009 at 06:45 PM

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