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I have worked with Photoshop CS2 for many years. Recently I upgraded my Canon 20D to a 50D. I love it! But...today for the first time, I took a bunch of portraits in raw. I happily uploaded them using Zoombrowser. Then...I went to open them in CS2 to work on them and got this message..."Could not complete your request because it is not the right kind of document". I have no idea what the problem is and I admit, I am not particularly computer savvy, though I've never had this kind of problem before. Any hints or even better, answers? Thanks in advance.

Nov 03, 2009 at 01:58 AM

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Photoshop CS2's doesn't support 50D files.

I don't know if there was an update or not, but I believe you have to move to CS4, or process them in Canon's software first.

Nov 03, 2009 at 02:04 AM

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p.1 #3 · I feel Stupid

Open them with DPP and use the transfer to Photoshop command.

Nov 03, 2009 at 02:04 AM

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OK, I thought it might be that I had to move to CS4, which I was considering anyway. But Bobster, forgive my continued stupidity, but what is DPP? Thanks again!

Nov 03, 2009 at 02:13 AM

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Digital Photo Professional...Canon's program for imaging.

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Nov 03, 2009 at 02:18 AM

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When you bought the 50D it came with a software CD. Install that and you can use DPP to process the raw files. Alternatively, you can convert the files to DNG, using Adobe's free DNG converter and then process them in CS2.

Nov 03, 2009 at 02:35 AM

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p.1 #7 · I feel Stupid

I appreciate all the help. I knew I would get answers on this Forum.
I'd like people's opinions -- Am I just better off getting CS4?

Nov 03, 2009 at 02:46 AM

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The upgrade will cost $199 while using DPP and/or DNG and CS2 has no cost associated. On the other hand, there are many worthwhile upgrades in both CS3 and 4. Personally, I think CS4 is well worth the upgrade cost but I expect others here will have different opinions.

If you do plan to continue to use Photoshop, you should be aware that Adobe will only let you upgrade three versions of Photoshop. So you could skip the upgrade to CS4 but CS5 will be your last chance.

Nov 03, 2009 at 03:00 AM

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Is there a camera raw upgrade for CS2 on the Adobe site?

Nov 03, 2009 at 03:33 AM

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p.1 #10 · I feel Stupid

ripkoken wrote:
Is there a camera raw upgrade for CS2 on the Adobe site?

Very likely, but Adobe stops adding support for new cameras once a new version of PS comes out.

Nov 03, 2009 at 03:56 AM

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JenniferA wrote:
I appreciate all the help. I knew I would get answers on this Forum.
I'd like people's opinions -- Am I just better off getting CS4?

Probably, but there are a number of photogs that prefer DPP's RAW conversions compared to Adobe Camera Raw.

If you're looking around, I suggest downloading the trial version of Adobe Lightroom and giving that a try. Lightroom provides a comprehensive package for a digital photo workflow that includes: image import, "developing", image export, library management, and printing.

What use to take me 3-4 programs is now handled with two, and what normally took days with my old workflow, now takes hours to accomplish using Lightroom.

Nov 03, 2009 at 06:06 AM

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p.1 #12 · I feel Stupid

Certainly the Raw converter in CS4 is better than that in CS2 - (and that's apart from the minor point it works with your camera as well!

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Nov 04, 2009 at 06:45 PM

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Just upgraded from CS2 to CS4, it's worth it. If only that ACR is better but Bridge is better too, actually useable. It will support your Canon too. I'd wait for CS5, Adobe tends to put out a buggy product for its first few months of life. After about 6 months the product is fine.

Tom

Nov 05, 2009 at 06:19 PM

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Bobster2 wrote:
Open them with DPP and use the transfer to Photoshop command.

Thanks. I didn't know that was possible. Does this require the latest version of DPP (which is now 3.7, I believe)?

Nov 09, 2009 at 04:49 PM

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ripkoken wrote:
Is there a camera raw upgrade for CS2 on the Adobe site?

Not for the 50D.
The 50D was the last camera to be supported by CS3. Anything later (5D2>

needs CS4.
However as has been mentioned above you can use DPP to export to CS2 or you can use the FREE DNG converter that Adobe supply for download to open said files in CS2

Nov 09, 2009 at 05:45 PM

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No reason to feel stupid. You're just bumping into Adobe's greed. They could quite easily release a version of Adobe Camera Raw that supported the 50D (and 5DMkII) but was still compatible with CS2 and/or CS3. But they won't. They don't make money off of you that way. They want you to spend $199 to upgrade to CS4. It doesn't matter that you may have already spent well over $1,000 on Photoshop just to get to CS2. They want MORE $$$$$$$$$.

And so it goes.

Mark

Nov 09, 2009 at 09:48 PM

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Mark Booth wrote:
No reason to feel stupid. You're just bumping into Adobe's greed. They could quite easily release a version of Adobe Camera Raw that supported the 50D (and 5DMkII) but was still compatible with CS2 and/or CS3. But they won't. They don't make money off of you that way. They want you to spend $199 to upgrade to CS4. It doesn't matter that you may have already spent well over $1,000 on Photoshop just to get to CS2. They want MORE $$$$$$$$$.

And so it goes.

Mark

They did . Its the DNG converter and its Free.

Seriously how long would expect them to support older software for newer cameras? with each PS upgrade ACR gets upgraded as well, so that would mean they have to profile each new cam for older versions of ACR as well.
its only an issue if you buy a new body, for which you shuld probably factor in the upgrade price as well (maybe not buy that accessory you dont really need yet. ie grip).
Its not like you HAVE to use ACR to work with the RAW files is it?

Nov 09, 2009 at 10:40 PM

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Try the various work-around first and see if they work for you. But sooner or later you will probably upgrade, and the longer you wait the less likely it will cost only $200. If you plan to continue using Photoshop then the $200 cost to upgrade to CS4 is a probably good investment. Christmas is around the corner; just ask Santa to put a CS4 upgrade disk in your stocking

When getting my 20D in 2004 and switched to a RAW workflow I initially used the DPP > Photoshop TIFF conversion method because I was still using PS7 and didn't have the RAW converter. DPP has evolved to include some nice proprietary features like lens distortion / vignetting correction and styles, but after making the jump from PS7 to CS3 I found the Bridge > Abobe Camera RAW (ACR) > Photoshop workflow simpler and faster. Some contend that DPP offers better RAW conversion than ACR. i don't question that it does, but for the work I do the convenience of the seamless all-Adobe workflow trumps the IQ difference. I upgraded CS3 to CS4 , and like you my 20D to a 50D. There have been some nice features added and Bridge is a more robust and useful tool for downloading, organizing, and reviewing files.

Nov 10, 2009 at 12:13 AM

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Ian.Dobinson wroteThey did . Its the DNG converter and its Free.

Seriously how long would expect them to support older software for newer cameras? with each PS upgrade ACR gets upgraded as well, so that would mean they have to profile each new cam for older versions of ACR as well.
its only an issue if you buy a new body, for which you shuld probably factor in the upgrade price as well (maybe not buy that accessory you dont really need yet. ie grip).
Its not like you HAVE to use ACR to work with the RAW files is it?

Adobe has to create a new version of ACR every time they add support for a new camera's RAW files. It is an obvious money grab when they make that new version of ACR only compatible with the very latest version Photoshop. And, point in fact, I DON'T use ACR. I do 99.9% of my photo editing workflow in Apple's Aperture. Between the plugins (NIK and others) and Aperture, I am quite happy NOT spending money to upgrade to Photoshop CS4. Hey... and check it out... when Apple releases an update to support new cameras' RAW format, EVERY version of Aperture can take advantage of the support for new RAW formats. What a concept!

But never mind me. Adobe is my favorite company I love to hate. I've spent in excess of $1,000 for Photoshop and subsequent updates and CS3 can't open the native RAW files of my 5D Mark II. Conversely, I've spent $300 on Aperture and updates and it opens my 5DMkII native RAW files just fine.

Mark

Nov 11, 2009 at 12:58 AM

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Yeah, you can use Adobe's free DNG converter, (which is pretty cool anyway w/ no xmp files.) http://www.adobe.com/products/dng/

Nov 11, 2009 at 01:02 AM


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