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cbrenkus wrote:
How does the 1D3 compare to the 7D in the high ISO IQ department?


Recent discussion that at least will tell you that the question can be touchy:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/823644


Oct 31, 2009 at 09:37 PM
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Yes it is..Thanks for the link..

Oct 31, 2009 at 09:48 PM
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Lars Johnsson wrote:
Xandervt wrote:
Lars Johnsson wrote:
epphoto wrote:
Why people killing the camera at buy and sale forum
They selling it for $2,300/2,400 and the new one is around $5,000.00
Very stupid if you ask me for such of good camera


Why is it stupid to sell a camera if you like that
Or should everybody keep it just because you like the price to stay high
And the price for a new is not $ 5000. I payed about $ 3400 and that was 1½ year ago.
It's not an investment, just a tool you use in photography


Perhaps it's a matter of choice and wallet possibility. Investment for pros, tools for both. ama and pro


A matter of choice choice of what and wallet possibility I don't even know what you talk about in your reply ? they are selling not buying ..........
Investment is something I belive would be worth more in the future. Like stocks, options, futures and similar things. I would not invest in something I know would be worth less already the day after I bought it. It's the work of the pros that make money. Not the camera body.........


If you choose to spend your money to buy the newest gear (and sell the old one fore much less then bought for) and your money isn't enough to go on a holiday anymore it's a choice. Wallet means for those who have money enough they can buy the newest cam's and go on a holiday and what so ever

I understand that the picture is taken by the pro and the cam is your tool.





Oct 31, 2009 at 11:04 PM
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p.4 #4 · Killing the 1D mark III


racoll wrote:
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The 7D is likely also driving down used 1D mark III prices.

I chose a 7D over a used 1D mark III. I am focal length constrained and like the crop-ability of the 7D and the nice IQ.




I have the 1d3 and one thing for sure. The IQ from a 7d isn't as the 1d3. Lots of posts here prove that .

Completely different cam's try both and you will see the difference. Like a mercedes E class compared tot a ford focus. The focus isn't bad but the a completely other car than the E-class.

Personally I think the auto focus issue, what absolutely was a negative issue gives the 1d3 such a bad name that all good things were shadowed. I've got the 1d3 for about 3 months and it's a very good tool. Fast, sharp focus, punchy true colors. Much much better then my 30d who was very acceptable.


Like an E-Class compared to a Ford Focus? Hardly. More like a BMW 5-Series compared to an M3.



Have you ever used both I had the choice between a 5dm2 with some glass or a new 1d. Used both? (7d wasn't there to be honest). Bit the difference at a trial day was huge.






I have used a 1DIII on a couple of brief occasions actually, but not a 5DII. To be honest, that's my ego responding to your post...I just hate my new camera being called a Ford Focus


Not meant as an offense


And yes I have a ford and a 1d3


Oct 31, 2009 at 11:05 PM
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Xandervt wrote:
Lars Johnsson wrote:
Xandervt wrote:
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epphoto wrote





If you choose to spend your money to buy the newest gear (and sell the old one fore much less then bought for) and your money isn't enough to go on a holiday anymore it's a choice. Wallet means for those who have money enough they can buy the newest cam's and go on a holiday and what so ever

I understand that the picture is taken by the pro and the cam is your tool.





Of course you have to sell the camera for much less than you bought it for Do you really belive that you can buy a new Canon 1D3 and use it a year or two and get nearly the same money back when selling it used


Oct 31, 2009 at 11:24 PM
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Lars Johnsson wrote:
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Lars Johnsson wrote:
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Lars Johnsson wrote:
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If you choose to spend your money to buy the newest gear (and sell the old one fore much less then bought for) and your money isn't enough to go on a holiday anymore it's a choice. Wallet means for those who have money enough they can buy the newest cam's and go on a holiday and what so ever

I understand that the picture is taken by the pro and the cam is your tool.








Of course you have to sell the camera for much less than you bought it for Do you really belive that you can buy a new Canon 1D3 and use it a year or two and get nearly the same money back when selling it used




I didn't say that, did I?

But it's a reason to wait to sell (and buy new) and just continue take pictures with a very good tool. For me (amateur) its good enough.


Oct 31, 2009 at 11:30 PM
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Xandervt wrote:
Lars Johnsson wrote:
Xandervt wrote:
Lars Johnsson wrote:
epphoto wrote:
Why people killing the camera at buy and sale forum
They selling it for $2,300/2,400 and the new one is around $5,000.00
Very stupid if you ask me for such of good camera


Why is it stupid to sell a camera if you like that
Or should everybody keep it just because you like the price to stay high
And the price for a new is not $ 5000. I payed about $ 3400 and that was 1½ year ago.
It's not an investment, just a tool you use in photography


Perhaps it's a matter of choice and wallet possibility. Investment for pros, tools for both. ama and pro


A matter of choice choice of what and wallet possibility I don't even know what you talk about in your reply ? they are selling not buying ..........
Investment is something I belive would be worth more in the future. Like stocks, options, futures and similar things. I would not invest in something I know would be worth less already the day after I bought it. It's the work of the pros that make money. Not the camera body.........


If you choose to spend your money to buy the newest gear (and sell the old one fore much less then bought for) and your money isn't enough to go on a holiday anymore it's a choice. Wallet means for those who have money enough they can buy the newest cam's and go on a holiday and what so ever

I understand that the picture is taken by the pro and the cam is your tool.





But this thread was not about if you have money enough to go on a holiday. Or having money enough to buy the newest gear.
This thread was about "Why people killing the camera at buy and sale forum
They selling it for $2,300/2,400"


Nov 01, 2009 at 12:29 AM
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Sorry guys If I knew I was going to get members mad i was never going to start this thread!!

I was a little mad for prizes dropping as fast for the Mark III on the buy and sales forums,I didn't think was necessary because the new Mark 5 its not out yet.
I'm holding my MK III for wile, because i dont make any prints bigger then 16x24 or lots of money on sport/animal/bird photography.
After all 90% its the guy behind the camera


Nov 01, 2009 at 02:09 AM
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epphoto wrote:I was a little mad for prizes dropping as fast for the Mark III on the buy and sales forums,I didn't think was necessary because the new Mark 5 its not out yet.

What, exactly, does 'necessary' have to do with market forces?

King Canute syndrome.


Nov 01, 2009 at 02:22 AM
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epphoto wrote:I was a little mad for prizes dropping as fast for the Mark III on the buy and sales forums,I didn't think was necessary because the new Mark 5 its not out yet.

What, exactly, does 'necessary' have to do with market forces?

King Canute syndrome.


Do you really want to know ho is making the market forces??
You may ask your self this question some day


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I remember paying the maximum on the 50D only to watch it drop $200 within months of its introduction. It happens and the 1dMk3 has been out a while. Besides, I for one will be on the look out for a good priced 1dMk3 myself. Who knows by that time the 1dsMk4 might show up. You never know what Canon's up to but one's pain is another's gain.

Nov 01, 2009 at 03:09 AM
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buddyRoland wrote:
I remember paying the maximum on the 50D only to watch it drop $200 within months of its introduction. It happens and the 1dMk3 has been out a while. Besides, I for one will be on the look out for a good priced 1dMk3 myself. Who knows by that time the 1dsMk4 might show up. You never know what Canon's up to but one's pain is another's gain.


I cant wait to see the price on a 1Ds 5
maybe $10,000.00


Nov 01, 2009 at 03:12 AM
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My dad always says, "A thing is only worth what somebody else is willing to pay for it". But the good news is if you don't agree with what a thing might sell for then you don't have to sell it! And furthermore we're talking about professional tools here for the most part, not investments but depreciatable business assets. I always choose the best tools for my jobs and the cost of my equipment is still a fraction of what most business owners I know must shell out for their operating assets.

Chris Miller
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Nov 01, 2009 at 08:40 PM
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Do you really want to know who is making the market forces??


I'd love to know, so - please - share your knowledge...


Nov 01, 2009 at 08:42 PM
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Let me know when you find a way to kill the initial list price of the Mk4...that would get my attention.

Nov 01, 2009 at 09:00 PM
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epphoto wrote:
buddyRoland wrote:
I remember paying the maximum on the 50D only to watch it drop $200 within months of its introduction. It happens and the 1dMk3 has been out a while. Besides, I for one will be on the look out for a good priced 1dMk3 myself. Who knows by that time the 1dsMk4 might show up. You never know what Canon's up to but one's pain is another's gain.


I cant wait to see the price on a 1Ds 5
maybe $10,000.00


Are you talking about the Mark 4 or 5 here?? In another post you also say the prices are dropping before the Mark 5 is out?? The Mark 4 isn't even out so why would the Mark 5 have anything to do with prices of the Mark 3??

This has happened all along, a new camera comes out and the old ones are worth significantly less. I think its great that the prices are dropping, I'm looking at a Mark II or IIn they are getting down around $1000 now for a pro body. Same thing happens with any electronics like computers, my 3 yr old top of the line laptop is maybe worth $500 but to buy the equivalent top of the line now would cost over $3000.

Lenses can be an investment but camera bodies certainly are not. You use them for as long as you want and either sell them or keep them as a backup and get the next camera that meets you needs.


Nov 01, 2009 at 09:13 PM
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keithreeder wrote:
epphoto wrote:

Do you really want to know who is making the market forces??


I'd love to know, so - please - share your knowledge...


You can find it in the first chapter of any good economics textbook.

Chris Miller
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Nov 02, 2009 at 12:31 AM
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yeah i hate that ppl are dumping a wonderful camera for ridiculous price. it makes the 1d3 look like a "pos"...

i tried to sell mine here and other places... ppl totally low ball me, and then i see posts where ppl sell their bodies for 2100 here? that is just plain ridiculous. no way am i selling my 1d for almost the same price as a 7d (canadian price for 7d is 2000+taxes...) 7d is nice but it aint a 1dm3 thats for SURE.

i ended up keeping my 1dm3 ... absolutely perfectly working body. ... it will remain a wonderful body alongside my new 5dmark2.

anyway.. for those of you who bought a 1dm3 for 2100-2500... ENJOY IT. well done taking advantage of the situation.





Nov 02, 2009 at 01:14 AM
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datadump wrote:
yeah i hate that ppl are dumping a wonderful camera for ridiculous price. it makes the 1d3 look like a "pos"...


Good to see you staying in the same spirit as the OP...


Nov 02, 2009 at 01:21 AM
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Yes, but an awful lot of crap gets written about this camera on these boards - & mostly by people who don't own one but nevertheless feel the need to opine.

Nov 02, 2009 at 01:24 AM
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