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Breitling65
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p.1 #1 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


Honestly I am not happy at all with 1.4tc performance on 500L, lot of light loss not as perfect AF, loss of contrast and chroma is very noticible in many cases. Much less keepers than without 1.4tc. Not even close to 300/F2.8L IS + 1.4tc results, on same apertures. I talked to PetKal already he is not using 1.4tc since AF speed loss....

How about you?

Note: I am using Canon 1.4tc and mk III.



Oct 26, 2009 at 04:00 PM
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p.1 #2 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


No one currently using 1.4tc on 500L/F4IS?


Oct 26, 2009 at 06:06 PM
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p.1 #3 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


i know plenty of people use the combo, and I've seen great photos from it. Do you have the version II of the 1.4x? Also, once in a while I do hear about people sending them in to get looked at and they come back a lot better.


Oct 26, 2009 at 06:09 PM
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p.1 #4 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


Will Patterson wrote:
i know plenty of people use the combo, and I've seen great photos from it. Do you have the version II of the 1.4x? Also, once in a while I do hear about people sending them in to get looked at and they come back a lot better.



Do you mean they are sending tc for service? That might be good idea, I have latest version II but about 3.5 years old.

Edited on Oct 26, 2009 at 06:18 PM · View previous versions



Oct 26, 2009 at 06:13 PM
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p.1 #5 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


Kenko 1.4 tc served me pretty well here with the 500

http://adamlawler.smugmug.com/Holidays/South-Africa/Kruger-National-Park/9964679_M9guP#680694557_6EgxG

I'm no pixel peeper - I'm only interested in the final shot, and I was pretty happy with a lot of those images.



Oct 26, 2009 at 06:18 PM
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p.1 #6 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


Practically, I didn't see any loss in IQ when used in combo with this lens. The AF is just a tad slower but still very responsive. Optically, both versions are the same but version II has weather sealing.

http://www.pbase.com/ageojo/image/93301534.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/ageojo/image/93567494.jpg



Oct 26, 2009 at 06:21 PM
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p.1 #7 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


I usually have to look at the image info on my 1dsIII to see if it was used or not the quality is so similar. Mine does take a different micro adjust than the strait 5 so you might want to look at that. Also I have herd of (no surprise) copy variations but, have been happy with the couple I've had.
Af is slower so you have to be careful with that but, no less accurate.
my .02

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Oct 26, 2009 at 06:22 PM
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p.1 #8 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


The 500 f/4L + Canon 1.4xII combo works great for me. AF is slightly slower, but not bad, and IQ is still excellent.
-Matt



Oct 26, 2009 at 06:24 PM
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p.1 #9 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


Breitling65 wrote:
Honestly I am not happy at all with 1.4tc performance on 500L, lot of light loss not as perfect AF, loss of contrast and chroma is very noticible in many cases. Much less keepers than without 1.4tc. Not even close to 300/F2.8L IS + 1.4tc results, on same apertures. I talked to PetKal already he is not using 1.4tc since AF speed loss....

How about you?

Note: I am using Canon 1.4tc and mk III.


500 + 1.4x should be superb, 500 + 2x should be very good.

These are wide open shots with 500 + 2x on the lowly 1D II
http://www.dphoto.us/forumphotos/data/1256/JS6R6975.jpg
http://www.dphoto.us/forumphotos/data/1256/JS6R6939.jpg

I will have to dig up some 500 + 1.4x shots, don't have any at hand, but I have no troubles using it, all the superteles eat 1.4x for breakfast

Here's a 500 + 2x + 1.4x shot of the moon on 40D
http://www.dphoto.us/forumphotos/data/1282/IMG_0040.jpg
and same shot with just 500 + 2x
http://www.dphoto.us/forumphotos/data/1282/IMG_0034.jpg



Oct 26, 2009 at 06:25 PM
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p.1 #10 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


Sounds like something is wrong with your setup. You should notice hardly a difference with the 1.4x. Stopping down a tad when using a TC also helps.


Oct 26, 2009 at 06:29 PM
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p.1 #11 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


Yup, there is definitely something wrong with your setup. If your 500mm by itself generates great images then your TC is out of whack . This one was taken at wide open aperture (effective f/5.6) using that combo on a 1D Mark III:

http://www.pbase.com/ageojo/image/93301535.jpg



Oct 26, 2009 at 06:36 PM
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p.1 #12 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


Breitling65 wrote:
Do you mean they are sending tc for service? That might be good idea, I have latest version II but about 3.5 years old.



Yea, I wouldn't hesitate sending it in. Wouldn't even be expensive.



Oct 26, 2009 at 06:50 PM
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p.1 #13 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


Here's 1 w the 500L + 1.4tc combo at 1/250s on a 40d. It is a killer combo..IQ is brilliant and the focus is still faster than the bare 1-400 IS lens
http://www.pbase.com/nellotodica/image/117567799/original.jpg



Oct 26, 2009 at 07:17 PM
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p.1 #14 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


Here is one with my 1.4 TC wide open. It is not as sharp as the 500L without an extender but is certainly acceptable.

http://www.pbase.com/lancemoreland/image/117141287.jpg


Lance
www.lancemoreland.com



Oct 26, 2009 at 07:58 PM
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p.1 #15 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


All with converter on and shot them with 1dmarkIII.









Oct 26, 2009 at 10:29 PM
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p.1 #16 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


I'd like to see some action shots with and without the TC, I've personally have never been happy with my shots using a TC. Full stop less (f5.6), lets in half the light as f4


Oct 26, 2009 at 10:59 PM
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p.1 #17 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


mrogers wrote:
I'd like to see some action shots with and without the TC, I've personally have never been happy with my shots using a TC. Full stop less (f5.6), lets in half the light as f4



What scares me most that it is not as noticeable as on my 300/F2.8L IS probably because of superior optics and faster lens or maybe some design limits of 500L.



Oct 27, 2009 at 06:31 AM
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p.1 #18 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


Pixel Perfect wrote:
500 + 1.4x should be superb, 500 + 2x should be very good.

These are wide open shots with 500 + 2x on the lowly 1D II
http://www.dphoto.us/forumphotos/data/1256/JS6R6975.jpg
http://www.dphoto.us/forumphotos/data/1256/JS6R6939.jpg

I will have to dig up some 500 + 1.4x shots, don't have any at hand, but I have no troubles using it, all the superteles eat 1.4x for breakfast

Here's a 500 + 2x + 1.4x shot of the moon on 40D
http://www.dphoto.us/forumphotos/data/1282/IMG_0040.jpg
and same shot with just 500 + 2x
http://www.dphoto.us/forumphotos/data/1282/IMG_0034.jpg




Your 500L shots probably best in this post, however I still could notice (especially on GBH) this chroma or whatever grayish cast as I do on mine shots. Is this unavoidable with this lens?



Oct 27, 2009 at 06:42 AM
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p.1 #19 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


Nello Milanese wrote:
Here's 1 w the 500L + 1.4tc combo at 1/250s on a 40d. It is a killer combo..IQ is brilliant and the focus is still faster than the bare 1-400 IS lens
http://www.pbase.com/nellotodica/image/117567799/original.jpg



That is very sharp, great shot!



Oct 27, 2009 at 06:45 AM
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p.1 #20 · 500L owners, lens performance with 1.4tc


Paul Tessier wrote:
I usually have to look at the image info on my 1dsIII to see if it was used or not the quality is so similar. Mine does take a different micro adjust than the strait 5 so you might want to look at that. Also I have herd of (no surprise) copy variations but, have been happy with the couple I've had.
Af is slower so you have to be careful with that but, no less accurate.
my .02




I might need to MA bit too, I noticed difference on mk III and 5DmkII already. Thanks!



Oct 27, 2009 at 06:48 AM
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