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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · Samy's Camera: 1DmkIV & 1DsmkIV are coming very soon.


Ben Horne wrote:
Why would Canon go through all the effort to keep the new camera a secret, then give Sammy's a heads up so they can take the 20 seconds to add it to their computer well before it is announced. That makes no sense. They hear about it when everyone else hears about it, when the camera is announced. Sounds like they were messing with you.


Going by how fast some of the big sellers have an 'official' release up on their site for pre order I would guess they might get a couple of hours notice with the official images and specs.
But I very much doubt its over a week



Oct 13, 2009 at 02:54 PM
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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · Samy's Camera: 1DmkIV & 1DsmkIV are coming very soon.


Future Man wrote:
How does Canon deal with the 1D and the 1Ds? Whenever a new version comes out, do they both come out at the same time?



Well the 1D3 came out before the 1DS3

According to the Canon museum
1DS3 Marketed November 07
1D3 Marketed May 07
1D2n October 05
1DS2 November 04
1D2 April 04
1DS November 02
1D December 01



Oct 13, 2009 at 02:54 PM
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ward1066 wrote:
I bet it wont have video.


I very much doubt that any mainstream release wouldn't include video

So yes any 1D released now will have video



Oct 13, 2009 at 03:03 PM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Samy's Camera: 1DmkIV & 1DsmkIV are coming very soon.


I foresee some threads popping up in the future: "AF of my 1D MarkIV is like crap" or "1D Mark IV major AF issues"


Oct 13, 2009 at 03:09 PM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Samy's Camera: 1DmkIV & 1DsmkIV are coming very soon.


Be careful with the Canon museum dates.

Remember that marketed means cameras were available to sell.

My notes show the 1Ds III was announced 8/24/07 and the 1D III announced 2/26/07.



Oct 13, 2009 at 03:10 PM
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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · Samy's Camera: 1DmkIV & 1DsmkIV are coming very soon.


ok, so if the 1D4 comes out this year, that means I may be able to afford a used one sometime in the summer of 2011.

It's probably gonna be an awesome camera but I have to tell ya, I'm head over heals in love with my 1D3. I have been since I got it last November.



Oct 13, 2009 at 03:16 PM
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or..."Who has returned his/her 1D Mark IV ?"

AGeoJO wrote:
I foresee some threads popping up in the future: "AF of my 1D MarkIV is like crap" or "1D Mark IV major AF issues"




Oct 13, 2009 at 03:19 PM
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KIDERAL wrote:
Be careful with the Canon museum dates.

Remember that marketed means cameras were available to sell.

My notes show the 1Ds III was announced 8/24/07 and the 1D III announced 2/26/07.



I am truly baffled, why on earth would anyone keep notes on something like this?



Oct 13, 2009 at 03:24 PM
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stanj wrote:
The 1Ds3 prices may actually fall so bad that it would be pointless selling it. It's something I always knew, knowing what a luke warm upgrade the 1Ds3 was, and I may keep it as a second to the 1Ds4.



No matter what happens, it's still going to be a great camera, even at $3500 - $4000.

Unless the new one had a reasonable price that is, but we all know that's doubtful especially with the exchange rate.



Oct 13, 2009 at 03:24 PM
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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · Samy's Camera: 1DmkIV & 1DsmkIV are coming very soon.


Hopefully it's around $4000, though I've been reading $4999...

Looks to me an amazing camera. I think IQ is probably a given, so keep our fingers crossed for the AF system!



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Hrow wrote:
I am truly baffled, why on earth would anyone keep notes on something like this?


Facts are such a refreshing change in these these threads and it's a heck of a lot easier to look something up on a spreadsheet (or whatever) than searching through websites or Canon press releases for this info......



Oct 13, 2009 at 03:55 PM
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AGeoJO wrote:
I foresee some threads popping up in the future: "AF of my 1D MarkIV is like crap" or "1D Mark IV major AF issues"


I foresee that you are correct x 100.



Oct 13, 2009 at 03:57 PM
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rwalls3 wrote:
I foresee that you are correct x 100.


Sad isn't it?

I wonder what it will take for Canon to live down the 1d3. Is the photographer responsible for the IQ anymore, or is it up to the camera to select, focus, expose, and then print an exceptional image while the "user" sends Tweets to his/her twit friends every 60 seconds?

I'm not defending Canon and the debacle that was the 1D3 or anything, but wondering how they can get it right so even the most unskilled twit can get it right and not complain...



Oct 13, 2009 at 04:07 PM
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Getting 100% out of the camera is getting harder and harder...technique needs to improve or all those pixels will be wasted....


Oct 13, 2009 at 04:10 PM
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Ok not to just be a rumor-monger,

While I was there, they showed me their internal computer (because I didn't believe them either) and it shows the 1DmkIV and 1DsmkIV, the 1D was priced at $4995 and the 1Ds was priced at $6995 (obviously subject to change)

I'm just going off what I heard and what I saw while I was there. I can't claim any of it to be factual



Oct 13, 2009 at 04:10 PM
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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · Samy's Camera: 1DmkIV & 1DsmkIV are coming very soon.


I wonder though, why would Canon skip PMA this year if they were going to release 2 new pro bodies this month? Also, a new 1D4 might cut into 7D sales so would it be wise to release it so soon after the 7D? I would suspect it/them to be released next spring after the initial surge of 7D sales has settled.


Oct 13, 2009 at 04:15 PM
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I hope its not $4995. At that price, it better be full frame... $3995 would be much better recieved.


Oct 13, 2009 at 04:17 PM
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p.2 #18 · p.2 #18 · Samy's Camera: 1DmkIV & 1DsmkIV are coming very soon.


I agree with you Kevin, but I can also see why they would mark it like that, if they go TOO low it will certainly cannibalize 7D sales, already moreso than it's going to once it comes out.


Oct 13, 2009 at 04:25 PM
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ShadowWalker wrote:
I wonder though, why would Canon skip PMA this year if they were going to release 2 new pro bodies this month? Also, a new 1D4 might cut into 7D sales so would it be wise to release it so soon after the 7D? I would suspect it/them to be released next spring after the initial surge of 7D sales has settled.


Canon will be at the CES and that will take place even earlier than the PMA. It would be in the last week of January, I believe while PMA in February. Plus, everybody wants to go to Vegas. Who cares about Anaheim ?

Two different market targets with two different pricing categories, with one being more than double the other....



Oct 13, 2009 at 04:35 PM
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p.2 #20 · p.2 #20 · Samy's Camera: 1DmkIV & 1DsmkIV are coming very soon.


Even if they released it at $4k, that would still be a $2300 difference.
I'd say that is a significant difference, no?



Oct 13, 2009 at 04:36 PM
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