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p.18 #1 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS

Silver 86” 16 Rib Parabolic Umbrella NOTE: Item currently on Backorder.

Hi Paul,

Please forgive me if you have addressed this... any idea when the next shipment is due in?

Last question... is there a 7mm shaft option in the works?

I have a group of 20 to shoot in the near future.. .I was thinking a couple of 86 PLMs would take care of the light for me.

Thanks for the help.
Hatch

Dec 05, 2009 at 10:00 PM

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p.18 #2 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS

deepbluejh wrote:
So is anyone actually using the white PLM in shoot-through? The 86" silver seems to be very popular, the rest; not so much.

Thoughts?

As a matter of fact, I was playing around with a 64" white PLM in my front room just the other evening. The following photo is of my 13 year-old daughter. I'm using a 64" white PLM shoot-through with a B800 for the key light. There's a B400 with a 40 degree grid lighting the background (Botero, studio gray). Camera is a Nikon D90 with a Nikkor 28-70 f/2.8 AF-S.

This image is copyrighted by the owner

I actually really like the white PLMs for shoot-through media. At $32, the 64" is a real bargin in my book. I bought a couple to use for larger group shots.

Dec 06, 2009 at 01:36 AM

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Carmen Miranda wrote:
No doubt some are, but what would be the point of buying a parabolic just to shoot through?
Silver is probably more appropriate for it's primary design function as a parabolic reflector.

Good luck.

As far as utilizing the parabolic characteristics, you're right.

But that 86-inch in shoot-through mode provides an excellently broad fill light.

Dec 06, 2009 at 06:23 PM

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p.18 #4 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS

Matt, nice shot.
BTW, if you want to avoid shutter creep and take back some real estate, you might want to drop your shutter speed down a notch. 1/160 or 125th are probably better choices for full frame flash exposure, since max rated sync speed is highly unlikely when using a wireless trigger.

Good luck.

Edit. (flat humor)

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Dec 06, 2009 at 10:22 PM

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p.18 #5 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS

No doubt, but so do my bed sheets. While I've used them from time to time it's not the primary reason I bought them.

But it is the reason I bought an 86-inch white umbrella. It's much easier to erect and pack on location than a bedsheet, and it absorbs much less of the light than a bedsheet. As a fill reflector for location use, it certainly is optimally designed.

You asked what was the point of buying a shoot-through umbrella. I give you da point--so why you gat huhu wit dat, brah?

Dec 06, 2009 at 10:27 PM

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onetrack wrote:
I was thinking of using a 42" shoot through will spill-kill on the back. Easier than a soft box, can get closer to the subject than flipping the umbrella around away from the subject. Good price too. I think I could use it with the WL lights and speed lights but we'll see.

Scott

Unless back spill and/or lens flare are big concerns I would just use it without the black cover . . . it's a pain to put on and doesn't increase the light to speak of.

Dec 07, 2009 at 06:48 AM

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hatch1921 wrote:
Silver 86” 16 Rib Parabolic Umbrella NOTE: Item currently on Backorder.

Hi Paul,

Please forgive me if you have addressed this... any idea when the next shipment is due in?

Last question... is there a 7mm shaft option in the works?

I have a group of 20 to shoot in the near future.. .I was thinking a couple of 86 PLMs would take care of the light for me.

Thanks for the help.
Hatch

There are two stages of development going on. Vendors are very slow in converting designs to product.

The PLMs now being made are due to ship to us in about 30 days and will have shorter 8mm shafts and considerable improvements in the front diffusers. Otherwise they will be essentially the same as the current ones.

I've had so much trouble communicating exact frame geometry and requirements I am now in the process of developing our own frame design and having it made by our excellent China metal vendor. This version will be quite different and will be available with 7mm shafts and a host of very tangible improvements I won't go into at this point. This is probably about 90 days out.

Dec 07, 2009 at 06:57 AM

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p.18 #8 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS

Carmen Miranda wrote:
Matt, nice shot.
BTW, if you want to avoid shutter creep and take back some real estate, you might want to drop your shutter speed down a notch. 1/160 or 125th are probably better choices for full frame flash exposure, since max rated sync speed is highly unlikely when using a wireless trigger.

Good luck.

Edit. (flat humor)

Excellent advice, CM, thank you.

Dec 07, 2009 at 07:15 AM

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p.18 #9 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS

I've used the 86" white as a shoot through. It can put out a tremendous blast of flat light. This was done with a single 86" and a 1200ws head @ f11. The ends dropped <1-stop compared to the center.

2012 © jdben622

Dec 07, 2009 at 07:35 AM

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Paul Buff wrote:
onetrack wrote:
I was thinking of using a 42" shoot through will spill-kill on the back. Easier than a soft box, can get closer to the subject than flipping the umbrella around away from the subject. Good price too. I think I could use it with the WL lights and speed lights but we'll see.

Scott

Unless back spill and/or lens flare are big concerns I would just use it without the black cover . . . it's a pain to put on and doesn't increase the light to speak of.

Yes, spill the the exact problem when shooting outdoors. Typically, I'm using a long lens and the flash is much closer to the subject than I am.

Scott

Dec 07, 2009 at 01:56 PM

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p.18 #11 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS

Not only is the 86" silver PLM an awesome modifier, it also doubles as a pretty cool background.

Dec 07, 2009 at 07:13 PM

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p.18 #12 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS

Actual spill shouldn't be big a problem outdoors. If lens flare is a concern, a lens shield should stop it. One thing to remember, a big PLM source has a very low spot intensity, thus tends mot to cause lens flare like a point-source sun or small flash source.

Dec 07, 2009 at 10:30 PM

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Paul Buff wrote:
hatch1921 wrote:
Silver 86” 16 Rib Parabolic Umbrella NOTE: Item currently on Backorder.

Hi Paul,

Please forgive me if you have addressed this... any idea when the next shipment is due in?

Last question... is there a 7mm shaft option in the works?

I have a group of 20 to shoot in the near future.. .I was thinking a couple of 86 PLMs would take care of the light for me.

Thanks for the help.
Hatch

There are two stages of development going on. Vendors are very slow in converting designs to product.

The PLMs now being made are due to ship to us in about 30 days and will have shorter 8mm shafts and considerable improvements in the front diffusers. Otherwise they will be essentially the same as the current ones.

I've had so much trouble communicating exact frame geometry and requirements I am now in the process of developing our own frame design and having it made by our excellent China metal vendor. This version will be quite different and will be available with 7mm shafts and a host of very tangible improvements I won't go into at this point. This is probably about 90 days out.

Many thanks Paul for taking the time to reply. Looking forward to the 7mm versions.

Thanks again!
Hatch

Dec 08, 2009 at 12:42 AM

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p.18 #14 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS

Nosaya,

I like the picture with PLM86 as background. The glowing skin is nice, the shape of light in eyes is correct, and the total picture is more than 1000 words. Well done

Could you share your total setup for this picture.

Cheers, Ollie

Dec 08, 2009 at 01:19 AM

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p.18 #15 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS

Someone on this board loaned me a large, Silver PLM and asked me to test it for an upcoming shoot. I found the product to be well-made, given the price - and a solid performer for full-body shots in-studio.

The samples are from a shoot for film poster.

2012 © Deezie

Dec 08, 2009 at 02:14 AM

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Dec 08, 2009 at 02:16 AM

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p.18 #17 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS

@ OllieK,

The main light is a PCB Beauty dish with a grid, about three feet above the model. Fill is provided by a second BD with a sock, set close to camera on the right.

The accent lighting is from two strip boxes on either side of the model set behind him about 30-35 degrees.

All lights are PCB White Lighting (2x X-1600, 2x X-800).

Dec 08, 2009 at 02:29 AM

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p.18 #18 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS

Nosaya,

Thanks for sharing the picture and the setup info. If the second BD with a sock was close to camera and catch light is so small the distance must be quite long. What kind of lens you were using? Any postprosessing on the skin - it's so smooth.

Did you shoot the WLX1600 at 400WS? How did you divide the WLX1600 and WLX800 between BD and strip boxes.

Cheers, Ollie

PS. The effects in this picture are very similar than in the crying youngster picture in the PCB commercial in Shutterbug - did you shoot that one?

Dec 08, 2009 at 03:59 AM

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p.18 #19 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS

White 86" PLM + Black/silver cover on.

Dec 13, 2009 at 07:32 AM

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p.18 #20 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS

The New set of advertisement images from Childrens Place Clothing Stores look to have been shot with the use of the PLM. The catch lights from the silver are so distinct...as well as shots with the front diffuser...I could be wrong but I'm almost certain that they were done with the PLM.

Dec 14, 2009 at 12:20 PM

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