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Jon Uhler
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p.7 #1 · p.7 #1 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


I have been wanting to try this exact same style with my 300 2.8 IS. I think I will get similar results.

Love your shots and explaining how you did this. Very nice indeed.



Mar 17, 2010 at 08:50 PM
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p.7 #2 · p.7 #2 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


Jon,

I had CPS send me a 300/2.8 a year before trying the 200/2 and my main complaint about it (besides that I needed a winch to help me hold it) was the poor close focus range. Tight head shots were only possible using ether the smallest extension tube or the 1.4 extender. Also, for typical portraits, I like to have a conversation with the subject, and with the 300 we had to use walkie-talkies ;-)

I agree, however, that you should get a similar look with the 300. Post some of your experiments!

jh



Mar 17, 2010 at 09:21 PM
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p.7 #3 · p.7 #3 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


wow wow wow! My dream lens 200/2LIS.


Mar 17, 2010 at 11:43 PM
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p.7 #4 · p.7 #4 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


JoshGTL wrote:
I have nothing to contribute, but wanted to say big thanks to jhartman for not only posting some great examples of his work, but explaining his technique.

You sir, are a champion.


Nothing else I can add but I think Josh expressed what I wanted to say the best.

Thanks for sharing the images and your knowledge. Wish I lived in WI.

John



Mar 18, 2010 at 12:06 PM
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p.7 #5 · p.7 #5 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


that is some amazing work! killer photos. wide open is awesome on that lens


Mar 18, 2010 at 01:19 PM
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p.7 #6 · p.7 #6 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


These pictures are especially notable because the style complements the subject's expectations and their generation. We will never go back to: "Look over your shoulder and smile-Next!" Then, for an extra charge, the B&W is, pathetically, "tinted."

But back to the 200 F2.0: I believe it's virtually unique (you hear similar things about the older design Nikkor)-at least compared to all my other many lenses. Yes, the 135L might be closest. Realize 200mm @ F2.0 has less DOF than a 85L @ F1.2. Four stop (+) IS makes this lens, if anything more useful for available light hand held candids.

Such special IQ (I sold my 300mm f2.8 because it suffered by comparison!) nothing else looks quite like this lens. I actually spent lots of time in PP "shopping" my pictures (colors, contrast, etc.) to look like the 200 F2.0 image right out of the camera. Often "The Difference" is apparent on an iPhone display.



Mar 18, 2010 at 05:09 PM
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p.7 #7 · p.7 #7 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


SoundHound wrote:
Realize 200mm @ F2.0 has less DOF than a 85L @ F1.2.


Well, technically it doesn't have less DOF when you frame the same composition, the 85L wide open will actually have shallower DOF. The 200 f/2 does a better job of blowing out the background though due to the longer focal length and narrower FOV for the background.

I've got the 200 f/1.8L and the 85L and they're both stellar, just very different looks. I'd have a hard time getting rid of either!



Mar 18, 2010 at 09:40 PM
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p.7 #8 · p.7 #8 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


I just bought a 200 2.0L and it should arrive on Monday! I can't wait to get it and take some portraits. I had to sell my 300 2.8 IS to get it, but then again I wasn't taking very many sports pictures, and when i was they were typically indoors.

The 200L looks like it will be a great compliment to my portrait photography and do very well for the type of sports I shoot, both with and without the 1.4TC.

-Tim




Mar 18, 2010 at 10:15 PM
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p.7 #9 · p.7 #9 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


One more time, this is always one of my super favourite lens. But I dont think I can handle it in my hand even just one time.


A belief for the dream come true



Mar 18, 2010 at 10:41 PM
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p.7 #10 · p.7 #10 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


SoundHound wrote:
Realize 200mm @ F2.0 has less DOF than a 85L @ F1.2.

Sheldon N wrote:
Well, technically it doesn't have less DOF when you frame the same composition, the 85L wide open will actually have shallower DOF. The 200 f/2 does a better job of blowing out the background though due to the longer focal length and narrower FOV for the background.

I've got the 200 f/1.8L and the 85L and they're both stellar, just very different looks. I'd have a hard time getting rid of either!


+1, for most photos I take, the 200L has more DOF but a blurrier background



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p.7 #11 · p.7 #11 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


Technically speaking, 200mm will give you more perspective compression, compared to 85L, when you frame the same composition.


Mar 19, 2010 at 04:57 AM
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p.7 #12 · p.7 #12 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


The 200mm has about 2 stops more background blur than the 85L for same framing and same aperture (but same DOF at same aperture and framing)


Mar 19, 2010 at 09:25 AM
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p.7 #13 · p.7 #13 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


tukhang: Buy the Kirk Handle and a replacement foot. That way you can support the rig at the CG and, when standing, put your elbow on your hip.

Sorry about any DOF error. I just consulted my iPhone app.



Mar 19, 2010 at 04:48 PM
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p.7 #14 · p.7 #14 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


jhartman wrote:
Jon,

I had CPS send me a 300/2.8 a year before trying the 200/2 and my main complaint about it (besides that I needed a winch to help me hold it) was the poor close focus range. Tight head shots were only possible using ether the smallest extension tube or the 1.4 extender. Also, for typical portraits, I like to have a conversation with the subject, and with the 300 we had to use walkie-talkies ;-)

I agree, however, that you should get a similar look with the 300. Post some of your experiments!

jh



Yeah,

I am sure photog to subject distance will be something to deal with. Just love the look of compressed images from a telephoto...and gods knows I can't afford the 200....



Mar 19, 2010 at 05:15 PM
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p.7 #15 · p.7 #15 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


Thanks for sharing!
Your photog skills shine!
Wow, this is a great example of why this lens is so fab!
The 135 f/2 helps me last until the day I can afford the 200 f/2 IS.
My 100-400 also holds me over until the 300 f/2.8 IS.



Mar 20, 2010 at 12:07 AM
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p.7 #16 · p.7 #16 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


SoundHound,
Can you elaborate more on the Kirk handle and foot ? I am interested in this. Any more info greatly appreciated.
Thx.

SoundHound wrote:
tukhang: Buy the Kirk Handle and a replacement foot. That way you can support the rig at the CG and, when standing, put your elbow on your hip.

Sorry about any DOF error. I just consulted my iPhone app.




Mar 20, 2010 at 03:33 AM
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p.7 #17 · p.7 #17 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


Just curious, are you using the stands the come with the RP's that hold the flash and RP? I have been trying to find information about which softbox ring will accomodate these? I am going to be purchasing some PX's and will use at least one with a softbox and want to make sure the setup will fit properly.

Thanks,
Tim



Mar 24, 2010 at 07:10 PM
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p.7 #18 · p.7 #18 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


jhartman:

Can you tell me which softboxes you're using most for your 580 EX II's? I have three 580 EX II's but have not been using softboxes with them. I use umbrellas - with both bounce and shoot through. I'd like to get some softboxes for flash, but am not sure which are the best quality/value-wise. There seems to be quite a gap in price between the brands, and I'm also not sure if I need more than one or which size to get. Care to shed some light on this for me?



Apr 08, 2010 at 06:10 AM
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p.7 #19 · p.7 #19 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


Sheldon Charro wrote:
jhartman:

Can you tell me which softboxes you're using most for your 580 EX II's?


Yes, jhartman, please.

Thanks



Apr 08, 2010 at 06:24 AM
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p.7 #20 · p.7 #20 · Senior Portraits with 200/2 wide open.


Thank you for posting the pictures, Canon should pay you for advertising the 200/2.
Also, thanks for posting some nuggets of knowledge which in this day and age seems rare.
Oh btw I think you have a small following.



Apr 08, 2010 at 12:35 PM
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