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p.3 #1 · 5D2 flaws?

orangefirefish wrote:
R. Eisenberg wrote:
Are the peripheral AF points so poor as to be unusable in low-light?
Yes.

Define low light. Indoor light? They are most certainly useable, however you need to point them at something with some degree of contrast. D700 Pitch black dark alleys lit by a lamp post? No. The D700 would focus in those (I sold it for 5d II). D700 would focus in low contrast areas well... 5d II won't... but it depends on whether you shoot in REALLY dark environments IMO.

Jul 02, 2009 at 12:17 AM

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p.3 #2 · 5D2 flaws?

main flaw: if the pic doesn't turn out its your fault not the camera's

Jul 02, 2009 at 02:50 AM

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p.3 #3 · 5D2 flaws?

orangefirefish wrote:
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5D2 flaws?

Flaws? We don't need no stinkin' flaws!

As far as the ongoing rags about the off center AF points, consider this: Medium Format cameras have only 1~3 AF points, and not nearly as responsive.
Yes- but the 5D II will be used in more situations than an MF body.

Well, a heck of a lot of portrait and wedding photographers moved to the 5D and 5D2 from medium format cameras, and compared to a medium format camera, the 5D is amazingly agile, responsive, and tough.

If the 5D does nothing more than take a big bite out of the Mamiya market--which it has certainly done--I suspect that makes Canon very happy.

Jul 02, 2009 at 03:16 AM

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p.3 #4 · 5D2 flaws?

I find that the outer focusing points are pretty lousy, even in good light.

I'm not sure if it's to do with the sensitivity or the non-cross nature?

Jul 02, 2009 at 03:20 AM

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p.3 #5 · 5D2 flaws?

Well the 5D II is a BETTER camera than the 5D, and the 5D at the end of the day delivers superb IQ and AF in one shot, even in low light is good to very good. To me the biggest flaw of the 5D is the pathetic lcd screen and AI servo, which is piss poor in all no 1 series anyway. 5D II fixes a few of these weaknesses and adds many new features. I can easily overlook the AF in this camera, but hey add a D700 pro AF system, make it 7fps, inbuilt gps, flash controller, more sealing and you have the perfect camera.

I'll be getting a 5D II for sure, hopefully in the next month or two.

Jul 02, 2009 at 03:41 AM

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p.3 #6 · 5D2 flaws?

I hate these topics ....

Jul 02, 2009 at 04:27 AM

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p.3 #7 · 5D2 flaws?

anorphirith wrote:
I hate these topics ....

But like a car wreck you were still strangely drawn into it's evil web.

Jul 02, 2009 at 04:30 AM

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p.3 #8 · 5D2 flaws?

For me it's really only the focusing system which stops the 5DII from being superb.

I wouldn't be surprised if a "3D" 1-series/5D hybrid is being considered

David

Jul 02, 2009 at 05:35 AM

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p.3 #9 · 5D2 flaws?

David, I hope you are right, but I doubt you are.
Canon have established this pattern for a long time now.
They really want us to pay $8000 if we want pro AF with a full frame sensor.

Jul 02, 2009 at 05:49 AM

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p.3 #10 · 5D2 flaws?

Quality control is pretty ordinary also.
Although I think they intentionally send out cameras with slight faults thinking most buyers of this level camera won't notice.

I've sent two bodies back.
Hoping for third time lucky on the 5D MK II.

Jul 02, 2009 at 06:11 AM

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p.3 #11 · 5D2 flaws?

Does the 5d2 have the Banding with AI Servo like the original 5d had? I know Canon claims it only happens with certain lenses, but it pretty much happens on all of them. Some worse than others. Especially when you try higher ISOs (800 and up).

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Jul 02, 2009 at 06:22 AM

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p.3 #12 · 5D2 flaws?

dhphoto wrote:
For me it's really only the focusing system which stops the 5DII from being superb.

+1

Although i'd love a one-series body

ps: 1Ds3 is not an option for most of us

Jul 02, 2009 at 08:29 AM

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p.3 #13 · 5D2 flaws?

Orestis.Ch wrote:
dhphoto wrote:
For me it's really only the focusing system which stops the 5DII from being superb.

+1

Although i'd love a one-series body

ps: 1Ds3 is not an option for most of us

I'm finding there are lots of times I really don't want a large 1-series body to cart about, looking very professional and attracting attention.

The 5DII IQ is so good that is no longer an issue, I just wouldn't feel comfortable using it for something that required really good focusing.

Jul 02, 2009 at 08:57 AM

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p.3 #14 · 5D2 flaws?

I'm not sure if it's to do with the sensitivity or the non-cross nature?

As I explained above, it's the non-cross nature. If you turn the camera so that the rectangle is perpendicular to linear contrast in the subject, those peripheral points are every bit as accurate as the center point with lenses slower than f/2.8.

Jul 02, 2009 at 11:34 AM

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p.3 #15 · 5D2 flaws?

Quality control is pretty ordinary also.
Although I think they intentionally send out cameras with slight faults thinking most buyers of this level camera won't notice.

There is always a certain percentage of error permitted in nearly all quality control systems, and the less error permitted the higher the cost...exponentially.

Jul 02, 2009 at 11:37 AM

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p.3 #16 · 5D2 flaws?

RDKirk wrote:

There is always a certain percentage of error permitted in nearly all quality control systems, and the less error permitted the higher the cost...exponentially.

Except if it's a 1D3

David

Jul 02, 2009 at 11:46 AM

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p.3 #17 · 5D2 flaws?

The only flaw on the 5D2 for me is that it is not the top model, so there is a risk I will upgrade to 1Ds3 or 1Ds4

Jul 02, 2009 at 12:26 PM

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p.3 #18 · 5D2 flaws?

RDKirk wrote:
I'm not sure if it's to do with the sensitivity or the non-cross nature?

As I explained above, it's the non-cross nature. If you turn the camera so that the rectangle is perpendicular to linear contrast in the subject, those peripheral points are every bit as accurate as the center point with lenses slower than f/2.8.

True... but there is more to it... The AF point in the VF represents a much larger area than you can see in the VF.

Jul 02, 2009 at 12:27 PM

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p.3 #19 · 5D2 flaws?

squeaky CF compartment. Really bugs me and i have not found a solution yet

Jul 02, 2009 at 12:43 PM

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p.3 #20 · 5D2 flaws?

Karokan wrote:
squeaky CF compartment. Really bugs me and i have not found a solution yet

KY Jelly

Jul 02, 2009 at 01:17 PM

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