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No problems with my 5DII at all. Love it.

Obviously it has an old and rather inferior focusing system, but you know that.

Canon quality control is just not good enough though.

David

Jul 01, 2009 at 08:14 AM

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dhphoto wrote:
No problems with my 5DII at all. Love it.

Obviously it has an old and rather inferior focusing system, but you know that.

Canon quality control is just not good enough though.

David

Good to hear that David

Yeah, to by-pass the inferior AF I will only use the center AF point and crop to my liking afterwards. That should do the trick... especially since the 5Ds has 21MP's to start with

I will be using the 5D2 mainly for high ISO reportage/wedding work.

Jul 01, 2009 at 09:16 AM

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Daan B wrote:
Good to hear that David

Yeah, to by-pass the inferior AF I will only use the center AF point and crop to my liking afterwards. That should do the trick... especially since the 5Ds has 21MP's to start with

I will be using the 5D2 mainly for high ISO reportage/wedding work.

Despite what certain people have posted here, in actual pro useage I can happily interchange the 1Ds3 and 5DII and not notice any difference in IQ at all. I think actually the 5DII js rather better at high ISO

David

Jul 01, 2009 at 09:40 AM

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Melnik wrote:
light shield plates

newer heard about them

As well as broken LCD's

What the...is this?

Jul 01, 2009 at 10:50 AM

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skibum5 wrote:
Daan B wrote:
Ok, besides missing light shield plates and broken LCD's...

Are there any other problems / issues (minor or big) that I should watch out for when buying a new 5D2?

I am fully recovered from my previous 5D2 experiences (bad ones

) and am ready to try it one more time

Seriously...

Watch they don't turn on you boy.....
These 5DmkII.
Why they appear innocent at first.
You wouldn't even think to give them a second look really.
Few do.
But they are scheming.
And plotting.
And just as you least expect it.
You'd as much wish you'd never been born....
They rise up and rise up fast.
They can think.
These machines.
But not like people.
Not like anyone or anything you've ever known....
You ever looked into the black soulless eye of a great white?
That ain't half as dark.... that ain't half as dark.
What was once your town, well not sure what you'd call it after.
Certainly not a town.
Maybe not even a place.
So yeah, boy, I'd watch your step and keep your distance form these 5DMkII.
There are issues yet to be resolved.
Issued yet to be resolved.

umm yeah so stop worrying and get one again, they are great. the new firmware is awesome too.

(although it sounds like your first tries were more like my crazy script there

but hopefully, and almsot certainly, this one should be entirely fine)

that was hilarious

Jul 01, 2009 at 10:56 AM

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Are the peripheral AF points so poor as to be unusable in low-light?

Jul 01, 2009 at 11:00 AM

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) and am ready to try it one more time

(although it sounds like your first tries were more like my crazy script there

but hopefully, and almsot certainly, this one should be entirely fine)

Skibum, is that a modified version of Queeg's speech in Jaws or are you a poet. I'm still laughing as I type this.

Jul 01, 2009 at 11:03 AM

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Daan B.

The 5D MKII is all about results, the picture. I experienced issues similar to what you have. mine were with the other well known body Canon sold and forgot to inform the buyers it was in beta form. Drove me over to the Dark side, really wasn't that dark on upon arrival. I had pre-ordered my 5DMKII from a new vendor because B&H doesn't accept pre-orders. I was 'Upset', (really ticked) with three bodies from Canon, ( not really that bad after 20 years w/Canon) but I had all three bad experiences with in 90 days.

D700 arrives w/ 2 lens, SB900, and I was a Happy Camper! After 2 weeks I call and cancel my order for the 5DMKII. Going to dump all my 'L' lens, mucho $$ was probably going to be lost but the change must be made. Two weeks later a box arrives with a 5DMKII in it, they were scarce back then. I could send it back unopened or......................
like any respectable photo nut I make the mistake of placing the box close to the rest of my Canon gear.

Well you might have guessed it, somehow the 5DMKII hooked up with the 70/200 over night. When I found them in the morning they were physically joined, shameful! I'm suspect all my 'L's had their way over night. I was going to have all of this annulled however when I viewed what they had created, it was magic. Ah, the results were stunning,
she's not the fastest, she appears to have a joint ailment as she creaks, not nearly as solid as the D700, but she's a Lady, and should be treated as such. She has kept all of my Canon gear at home as a family, with her in my bag the 'L's are safe. She even compliments the D700.

The only downside? Tough keeping up in these times with both families, expensive, but what's a guy to do?

Good luck with your new addition!

Jul 01, 2009 at 11:32 AM

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R. Eisenberg wrote:
Are the peripheral AF points so poor as to be unusable in low-light?

nonsense! it's not as accurate as the center AF point but they're usable, certainly not any worst than the xxD. unless you are shooting in pitch black environment otherwise they are alright.

Jul 01, 2009 at 11:57 AM

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yauyi wrote:
R. Eisenberg wrote:
Are the peripheral AF points so poor as to be unusable in low-light?

nonsense! it's not as accurate as the center AF point but they're usable, certainly not any worst than the xxD. unless you are shooting in pitch black environment otherwise they are alright.

This is true. In terms of inherent accuracy, they are as sensitive and as accurate as the center point with any lens slower than f/2.8.

This is the thing: They are only sensitive to subject linear contrasts that run perpendicular to the orientation of the rectangle marks--they are blind to linear contrasts that run parallel to the rectangles.

If you turn the camera so that the marks are perpendicular to any lines in the subject, they can focus accurately on any line you can see, until it's so dark you can't even see the line in the viewfinder.

Jul 01, 2009 at 06:34 PM

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5D2 flaws?

Flaws? We don't need no stinkin' flaws!

As far as the ongoing rags about the off center AF points, consider this: Medium Format cameras have only 1~3 AF points, and not nearly as responsive.

Jul 01, 2009 at 07:30 PM

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jjlphoto wrote:
...Medium Format cameras have only 1~3 AF points, and not nearly as responsive.

But they have a huge VF

Jul 01, 2009 at 07:43 PM

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Mike1.6 wrote:

Skibum, is that a modified version of Queeg's speech in Jaws or are you a poet. I'm still laughing as I type this.

haha the black soulless great white eye line was inspired by vague recollections of Queeg's speech

i think i've maybe watched a few too many hollywood movies and wacky TV shows over the years (and have been around too many characters, half the time we go around acting on purpose like we are part of some wacked out sitcom just for the fun of it), seeing how i was able to spontaneously type that out in realtime haha

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Jul 01, 2009 at 07:46 PM

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RDKirk wrote:
yauyi wrote:
R. Eisenberg wrote:
Are the peripheral AF points so poor as to be unusable in low-light?

nonsense! it's not as accurate as the center AF point but they're usable, certainly not any worst than the xxD. unless you are shooting in pitch black environment otherwise they are alright.

This is true. In terms of inherent accuracy, they are as sensitive and as accurate as the center point with any lens slower than f/2.8.

This is the thing: They are only sensitive to subject linear contrasts that run perpendicular to the orientation of the rectangle marks--they are blind to linear contrasts that run parallel to the rectangles.

If you turn the camera so that the marks are perpendicular to any lines in the subject, they can focus accurately on any line you can see, until it's so dark you can't even see the line in the viewfinder.

Thanks for these helpful observations.

Jul 01, 2009 at 07:48 PM

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Taoguy wrote:
Daan B.

...
The only downside? Tough keeping up in these times with both families, expensive, but what's a guy to do?

Bigamy!

Jul 01, 2009 at 07:48 PM

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p.2 #16 · 5D2 flaws?

Hmmm, from experience I can say the 5D2 doesn't float or like salt water. Anyone want to buy a "slightly used, waterlogged" camera?

Jul 01, 2009 at 07:48 PM

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R. Eisenberg wrote:
Are the peripheral AF points so poor as to be unusable in low-light?

not if they have detail in the direction they can sense

i haven't really used them much though so i can't so anything too much

the center point seems to be better than on 20D or 40D/50D for stills or ai servo tracking

Jul 01, 2009 at 07:52 PM

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skibum5 wrote:
Mike1.6 wrote:

Skibum, is that a modified version of Queeg's speech in Jaws or are you a poet. I'm still laughing as I type this.

haha the black soulless great white eye line was inspired by vague recollections of Queeg's speech

i think i've maybe watched a few too many hollywood movies and wacky TV shows over the years (and have been around too many characters, half the time we go around acting on purpose like we are part of some wacked out sitcom just for the fun of it), seeing how i was able to spontaneously type that out in realtime haha

Well it sure makes you a creative fellow. My apologies to everyone for diverting the thread.

And just so Jaws fans don't jump on us, Skibum and I both know it's Quint, not Queeg, who gives that speech about sharks eyes and maybe camera lenses...

"Sometimes that shark looks right at ya. Right into your eyes. And the thing about a shark is he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he comes at ya, he doesn't even seem to be livin'... 'til he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'. The ocean turns red, and despite all your poundin' and your hollerin' those sharks come in and... they rip you to pieces."

Jul 01, 2009 at 07:54 PM

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R. Eisenberg wrote:
Are the peripheral AF points so poor as to be unusable in low-light?
Yes.

Jul 01, 2009 at 08:05 PM

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jjlphoto wrote:
5D2 flaws?

Flaws? We don't need no stinkin' flaws!

As far as the ongoing rags about the off center AF points, consider this: Medium Format cameras have only 1~3 AF points, and not nearly as responsive.
Yes- but the 5D II will be used in more situations than an MF body.

Jul 01, 2009 at 08:07 PM

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