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p.1 #1 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


3 pictures from our drive to Radium Hot Springs, BC, Canada from Calgary.

My wife and I could not agree wether it was a wolf or a coyote. I won't tell you my vote in case you think i am stupid.

Comments and suggestions appreciated.

Scott Stoness



Jun 27, 2009 at 07:52 PM
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p.1 #2 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


I would say coyote, since it seems too small for a wolf and you generally can't get this close to wolves. To tell the difference between a coyote and a wolf, note that a coyote carries its tail below the level of its back when it runs, whereas a wolf will hold its tail up while running.

The second shot could use some noise reduction and the last shot quite a bit of NR.

Tony




Jun 27, 2009 at 08:37 PM
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p.1 #3 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


I'm thinking wolf on this. The muzzle is a bit more rounded and more stout than every coyote I've seen. Does look to be a young one. Pics below are pretty representative of what I've seen.

Steve

http://www.bytephoto.com/photopost/data/500/6551MG_wolf.jpg

http://www.bytephoto.com/photopost/data/500/6551MG_coyote.jpg



Jun 27, 2009 at 09:08 PM
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p.1 #4 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


Thanks Imagemaster and Bmetcan: Precisely my confusion. Most wolves are very wary. I saw one a weak ago and it rushed into the bush but this one did not.

However, this is an known area for wolves and usually coyotes are killed and driven away by wolves.

And I have seen lots of coyotes and he looks too full in the face.

He was very skinny - not very old.

It is noisy because it was shot at 9Pm with ISO 1600 at dusk.

Scott



Jun 27, 2009 at 09:25 PM
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p.1 #5 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


Just my guess, but the eyes definitely have that 'wolf' look, plus the head shape is more wolf-like than a coyote, which is longer and slimmer.

Guess you will never know for sure...

bob snow



Jun 27, 2009 at 09:35 PM
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p.1 #6 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


I would have to say it looks like a wolf to me. Doesn't have the triangular face and pointed ears that most coyotes have. The rounded ear tips look like a wolf to me. great captures, Scott. really like #1.
Darryl



Jun 27, 2009 at 09:39 PM
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p.1 #7 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


Robert. I think it is a 12 month old wolf. Likely born middle of last summer and very skinny and immature yet.

Darryl: Thanks for the feedback Darryl. I am of the same view as yourself on the shape of the face. But given its youth, it is a lot smaller than other wolves I have seen.

Thanks Scott



Jun 28, 2009 at 12:15 AM
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p.1 #8 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


Another vote for a wolf with a summer coat. Coyotes have much longer ears and a more slender snout (like a fox). As far as being scrawny, wolves are lean animals to begin with (think of long distance runners) and after loosing their winter coat they often look emaciated.


Jun 28, 2009 at 01:19 AM
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p.1 #9 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


I would say wolf from the look of the head in the first one Scott, not that I have seen many of either but its what comes to mind.
Very nice pics and I like the first one the best. You managed to get nice and close.
Martin



Jun 28, 2009 at 01:30 AM
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p.1 #10 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


Wolf!


Jun 28, 2009 at 02:24 AM
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p.1 #11 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


Willamette: Thanks for the input. Appreciated. Scott

Martin: Thanks for the input on species. I was surprised to get so close. These were taken out of the car window with 300mm lens at about 9pm (hour before dark). Thanks for feedback on pictures. Scott

Reypet: Thanks for the input on species. Appreciated. Scott



Jun 28, 2009 at 09:28 AM
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p.1 #12 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


I think it is a wolf. Great job in capturing this.
Harsha



Jun 28, 2009 at 09:43 AM
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p.1 #13 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


Harsha: Thanks for the feedback. Appreciated. Scott


Jun 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM
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p.1 #14 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


I would say wolf. I have seen many coyotes in my day, and the facial features of this specimen are "screaming wolf"

Cool shots none-the-less



Jun 28, 2009 at 10:37 AM
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p.1 #15 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


Wolf and cool shots.
Gene



Jun 28, 2009 at 10:43 AM
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p.1 #16 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


It looks wolf like to me...

Here in Ontario, I believe that extensive hybridization between wolves and coyotes has been documented.





Jun 28, 2009 at 10:55 AM
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p.1 #17 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


bkiesling: Thanks for the feedback and the input on the wolf. Scott

Gene: Thank you too. Scott

Josh: Sounds odd to me. My understanding is that wolves drive (kill) the wolves out of there area but I will do some research. Maybe the Rockies wolves are less friendly than the Ontario wolves Thanks for the feedback. Scott

From: http://www.wonderquest.com/Wolf-coyote.htm "Yes, coyotes and wolves interbreed. Each species ranges far: a wolf pack typically from 40 to 400 square miles. Wolves and coyotes run across each other hunting and can interbreed. Most of the hybrids live in eastern Canada. " Apparently when mates are scarce (Eastern Canada), a male wolf will mate with a female coyote but where the mates are plentiful they are less likely to do so. So less likely in the Canadian Rockies. Given the long standing humor between Toronto and Alberta, I will avoid the obvious humor Scott

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Jun 28, 2009 at 11:54 AM
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p.1 #18 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


I agree with the wolf i.d.'s. From its posture, this animal looks sick, which may explain its scrawny coyote look.

Here are some shots of a coyote to go with the other comments posted here:

1. Coyote running with tail low:
http://www.pbase.com/jdc562/image/107026505.jpg


2. Narrow, fox-like head with long, pointy ears and snout:
http://www.pbase.com/jdc562/image/107026506.jpg




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Jun 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM
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p.1 #19 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


Ears, coloring, cheek tufts and muzzel = gray wolf yearling for me.


Jun 28, 2009 at 12:42 PM
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p.1 #20 · Kootenay Park - Small Wolf?


Steve Shinn wrote:
Ears, coloring, cheek tufts and muzzel = gray wolf yearling for me.


Thanks Steve. After reading about it and looking at web sites I am convinced that it is a yearling wolf. I was just taken aback by its lack of worry with the car which from my experience is very rare. I saw a bigger taller wolf at Lake Louise last wee, just off the turn off to Moraine Lake, and he quickly ran into the bush before I could turn around and get my camera out. And he was much taller and darker than this one. Scott



Jun 28, 2009 at 12:46 PM
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