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p.1 #1 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


If you've purchased the new BlackRapid strap then please be sure to check that the screw that holds the "connecter2" in place does not come loose. It appears that the ones with the problem come apart fairly easily while others claim they cannot get it to budge no matter how hard they try. I had my Mark II N hit the floor hard at a wedding this weekend. It was my first time using the strap and it came apart after only 90 minutes of usage. Again... this effects the NEW BlackRapid strap... it comes apart at the pivot point.


May 12, 2009 at 02:03 AM
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p.1 #2 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


Yikes! You mean the new ConnectR-2 came apart on you?

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May 12, 2009 at 06:36 AM
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p.1 #3 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


wow, that is crazy...

i was in the market to buy one but with this news and the price being super high, i think ill just stick with my optech...

May 12, 2009 at 07:12 AM
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p.1 #4 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


I have 2 RS-4 strap. One with the new and one with the old connector. This sounds scary. can you please give us more details on which part it failed. Is it the fastner (new smaller one) that came off the tripod mount or this connector broke? This new connector looks lot safer than the old one, so I really want to know more. Thanks.

May 12, 2009 at 07:45 AM
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p.1 #5 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


I've been using the old style for over a year now, haven't had a problem with it.... the new one doesn't look like the best for holding weight.

May 12, 2009 at 09:19 AM
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p.1 #6 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


Good grief, can they get it right at some point?

I replaced my hook with this hook from this keychain, I didn't use the keychain much. But I really like it on the Black Rapid with the new stainless loop.

http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=34&idproduct=203

Better yet, get two here....

http://www.opticsplanet.net/metal-1.html

May 12, 2009 at 12:26 PM
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p.1 #7 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


Here is a photo that was posted on a different board from someone that it happened to as well. Actually, one of his straps came apart so easily that he didn't even have a camera attached to the clasp when it came undone. He just got home from a shoot and noticed the ConnectR-2 was missing completely. The strap that was holding his camera was just barely hanging on...

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May 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM
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p.1 #8 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


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Edited on May 12, 2009 at 12:43 PM · View previous versions


May 12, 2009 at 12:43 PM
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p.1 #9 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


Can you send this picture to BlackRapid, please

I don't understand their policy. First, they announced a new ConnectR2 because of failure of the first version, then they let us wait for one year, and now this.

I think I'd only trust my Upstrap.

Mario

May 12, 2009 at 12:43 PM
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p.1 #10 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


m3rocket why is yours different from mine?



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May 12, 2009 at 12:44 PM
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p.1 #11 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


OK, I watched mine and there's definitely NO SCREW!!!! It's a one piece hook like FastenR1, but with a lock and anodized, not black (see above).

Mario


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May 12, 2009 at 12:51 PM
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p.1 #12 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


sjms wrote:
m3rocket why is yours different from mine?



I guess we got the newest ones, and the screwed ones where beta phase R2 models ...

Bad for the owners that trusted BlackRapid. And unacceptable, I guess.

Mario

May 12, 2009 at 12:53 PM
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p.1 #13 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


well thats it for me. i admit when i'm wrong. and here it seems i was wrong. i just put mine on a visegrip but it isn't moving a millimeter. i wished the image above that photoeye posted was better as i can't tell if there is a crosspoint or slot at the top as it seems there might be on the screw. mine does not have one at all.



May 12, 2009 at 01:01 PM
 



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p.1 #14 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


Mario Moschel wrote:
sjms wrote:
m3rocket why is yours different from mine?



I guess we got the newest ones, and the screwed ones where beta phase R2 models ...

Bad for the owners that trusted BlackRapid. And unacceptable, I guess.

Mario


i just received mine last week. mine is dead on identical to yours

May 12, 2009 at 01:02 PM
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p.1 #15 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


well though this is not an answer to the issue i have done a minor work around. 3mm climbing cord (200lb test). in a loop around the strap material and the carabiner itself as a safety. i will run with this in mine for a few jobs i must do do. it is long enough to allow for a single 360 rotation for now. THIS IS NOT AN ANSWER THIS ISSUE. i'm going to give mine a beating in use.



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May 12, 2009 at 01:29 PM
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p.1 #16 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


@Mario: My ConnectR-2 looks exactly like that. There is really no way to tell if it's a screw until it comes apart. I inspected mine thoroughly when I got it because of BR's track record. It looked safe to me. People who have bought the new straps, for the most part, cannot get this thing to come apart. But for some, it comes apart so easily that it will unscrew itself just by hanging from your shoulder (with or without a camera attached). If you have one of these new units, my advice would be to test it's strength before putting a camera on it. Most likely, the ones coming apart have missed a finishing step of some sort: such as applying a glue to the inside to prevent it from unscrewing.

@sjms: I like that fix. I may test that out....

May 12, 2009 at 01:48 PM
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p.1 #17 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


put a vise grip on the head and give it some torque you'll know.

remember its a safety until proven that yours is not at issue.

May 12, 2009 at 02:00 PM
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p.1 #18 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


Here is a photo showing that this is, in fact, a threaded screw.

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I am still waiting on a response from BlackRapid since Sunday. I emailed them again this morning as well. But they are on west coast time I think.

May 12, 2009 at 02:02 PM
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p.1 #19 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


no crosspoint or slot (blank head) and i could see it was threaded. red loctite and 24hrs it will never come out again. but i will say again this is not the answer to the QC issue they have here and evidently it was improperly assembled.

May 12, 2009 at 02:30 PM
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p.1 #20 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


SJMS

Good looking double fishermans knot. Are you a climber too? I'll be jumping on Zodiac or Mescalito this summer.

Kiron Kid

May 12, 2009 at 06:03 PM
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p.1 #21 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


sjms wrote:
m3rocket why is yours different from mine?


They sent me a new ConnectR-2 to replace the old ConnectR-1 that shipped with my RS-4. I'll let you know when I get it. This is really disconcerting though!

May 12, 2009 at 07:42 PM
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p.1 #22 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


Kiron Kid wrote:
SJMS

Good looking double fishermans knot. Are you a climber too? I'll be jumping on Zodiac or Mescalito this summer.

Kiron Kid


back in the '70s and through through the end of the '80s i was tripping through the Gunks, Cathedral Ledge in the East. J Tree and quite a bit in the North Cascades in Wa. Rock Mixed and Ice. did a few trips to the UK and Scotland. Bagged a few challenging peaks way back when. having a real job and a family has taken its toll on me. ice was my favorite. ah! the old days

http://www.pbase.com/crusader/ws

May 12, 2009 at 08:01 PM
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p.1 #23 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


this company just keeps getting worse. I foolishly bouhgt a RS4 a month and a half ago, spent $50 on that, and then bought the fastener upgrade $16, and just recently the Connector upgrade another $16 for a whooping $82 on this thing and it is still prone to failure and falls apart This is unbelievable. When i get home tonight I am going to write them a lengthy letter and possible send all this crap back to them.

My gear is worth to much to trust to these people.

May 12, 2009 at 08:09 PM
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p.1 #24 · BlackRapid Strap -- Warning!!!


I have the RS-4 with the old connector with the plastic tube to secure the hook. I have been using it since day one, 4 months, commuting to and from work, 5 days a week, 5D w/ grip, RSS L-Plate, 70-200 2.8 or 24-70. It has never given me problems.

I was going to get a 2nd strap for a MKII that I ordered and thought about the upgraded hook. Now I'm rethinking about that purchase.

May 12, 2009 at 08:36 PM
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Yeah, I don't know what to make of it. I've been using my Black Rapid for sometime now, with the older and newer hardware, and have yet to have any problems with it.

SJMS, I pretty much grew up at J-Tree, Yosemite, Tahquitz, etc. Climbing hard routes was a weekend and way of life for me. Coming out of retirement soon to cruise a couple more El Cap routes. Climb on!

Kiron Kid

May 12, 2009 at 09:11 PM




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