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p.1 #1 · Eastern Sierra and DV


I say boring because you've probably seen them from Marc. Here's my rendition of a few. Afterall, he was with me when I shot most of these.

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Hope no one fell asleep.

Anyway, C&C welcome brutal or honest.

All shot with 5d mark II.

-Alan



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Apr 17, 2009 at 07:41 PM
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p.1 #2 · Eastern Sierra and DV


i like #1 and #3 the best. very nice colors on all except #2 and #4 - seems a bit strange with the colors and transition from light to dark.

Apr 17, 2009 at 08:14 PM
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p.1 #3 · Eastern Sierra and DV


I like them all very much. The first four are my favourite, but the last two don't have as much impact for me.



Apr 17, 2009 at 08:24 PM
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p.1 #4 · Eastern Sierra and DV


Wow, great series! Seems you guys had fun out there. My favorite is #1 followed by #4 and #6.

- Heinz

Apr 17, 2009 at 08:52 PM
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p.1 #5 · Eastern Sierra and DV


Nicely seen overall. Particularly like the Mono Lake image. I have the same question as Binh regarding processing of #2 and #4, looks like some HDR at work.

Paul

Apr 17, 2009 at 10:33 PM
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p.1 #6 · Eastern Sierra and DV


I didn't see Marks and after seeing yours, I don't feel I need to go look for them. Yours are beautiful

Apr 17, 2009 at 10:42 PM
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p.1 #7 · Eastern Sierra and DV


Hey Alan,

Cool stuff! These do seem a bit familiar now that you mention it!

Of course #1 just rocks. What a cool shot. Your version is very nice. My other real favorite is the last one, I really like the foreground in it. But good work on all of them. Great job on isolating the foreground.

Jim

Apr 17, 2009 at 10:45 PM
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p.1 #8 · Eastern Sierra and DV


Great series! The first is mt. tom right? I see light like this all the time up there but I'm not able to express it on film anything like you've done.

Luke

Apr 17, 2009 at 10:48 PM
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p.1 #9 · Eastern Sierra and DV


The first one is Mount Tom by the way. I actually didn't use HDR in the harming of the photos. I was using a singh ray 4 stop hard for the mono shot which may have produced the uneven lighting. After looking at the photo again, I can see how some people may perceive an uneven-ness in the lighting. This is something I will definitely re-work again! I guess my old eyes cant catch these things anymore.

Thanks Binh and Paul for the catch!

Apr 17, 2009 at 11:11 PM
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p.1 #10 · Eastern Sierra and DV


Say Alan, are you the founding member of the Low Self Esteem Club? You shouldn't be. These are mighty fine images. Don't compare your images to Marc's, or anyone else's, for that matter. Each one stands on it's own.

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p.1 #11 · Eastern Sierra and DV


Hey, just cus you shot them with Marc doesn't make them boring. Of course, it's hard to 'beat' him with the same compositions, but I'd say you came home with some great images. The first is of course beautiful, though I'd have liked a little more breathing room at the top, and some less saturation in the reds in the rocks at the bottom.

The last one is quite beautiful as well - the layers of color are exceptional. It works better for me as a 4x5 crop without the sun. #5 is interesting as well - did you get an abstract comp of just the foreground? It's the foreground here that's really great, but the rest of the image doesn't do so much for me.

I'll echo some of the other comments regarding the somewhat bizarre lighting in the mono shot. 4-stops is generally really pushing it. I find I only get truly natural results when using a 2-stop hard, and sometimes a 3-stop if shooting into the sun. Beyond that and you really need to work hard to get it to look natural.

Apr 17, 2009 at 11:55 PM
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Thanks Jeffrey. I changed the title.

Floris, That mono shot was a difficult one for me to process. I was hoping that Marc could give me a hard when he gets back from his adventure and see how he works his magic. Thanks for the heads up about the 3 stop. I think I'm going to give that a go next time.

I think I know why you liked the last one. I applied the *glow* technique just to test how effective it could be. I never thought about it, but definitely a crop without the sun and just the layers of brush could be an effective comp as well.

Marc was echoing your sentiment about focusing on abstracts such as an isolation shot of the sagebrush and I do have a few that I haven't processed that could possibly work.



Apr 18, 2009 at 12:18 AM
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floris wrote:
I'll echo some of the other comments regarding the somewhat bizarre lighting in the mono shot. 4-stops is generally really pushing it. I find I only get truly natural results when using a 2-stop hard, and sometimes a 3-stop if shooting into the sun. Beyond that and you really need to work hard to get it to look natural.


It's always a matter of personal taste how much we tweak dynamic range with grad NDs, HDR, etc. But I definitely agree with Floris that a 2 stop grad, 3 stop max, works for me.

Paul


Apr 18, 2009 at 12:26 AM
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p.1 #14 · Eastern Sierra and DV


I'd be one very happy camper with this set of shots myself. I am curious about what you mention as a "glow" technique - I like the results in that shot and am wondering what you did.

Thanks

Alan


Apr 18, 2009 at 01:16 AM
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p.1 #15 · Eastern Sierra and DV


I askin the same thing as Alan.....fill us in on the glow. Great shots

Apr 18, 2009 at 01:21 AM
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p.1 #16 · Eastern Sierra and DV


http://www.naturephotographers.net/imagecritique/bbs.cgi?a=vm&mr=41205&CGISESSID=a6b4d886c7983947e265e40352588250&u=5416


Read Marc's description. Also what really helped me was Floris' write up below his. ( 9 posts below )

Apr 18, 2009 at 01:52 AM
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p.1 #17 · Eastern Sierra and DV


#1 is incredible. where is that?

Apr 18, 2009 at 01:54 AM
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p.1 #18 · Eastern Sierra and DV


HaloGLC wrote:
Thanks Jeffrey. I changed the title.

Floris, That mono shot was a difficult one for me to process. I was hoping that Marc could give me a hard when he gets back from his adventure and see how he works his magic. Thanks for the heads up about the 3 stop. I think I'm going to give that a go next time.

I think I know why you liked the last one. I applied the *glow* technique just to test how effective it could be. I never thought about it, but definitely a crop without the sun and just the layers of brush could be an effective comp as well.

Marc was echoing your sentiment about focusing on abstracts such as an isolation shot of the sagebrush and I do have a few that I haven't processed that could possibly work.



Gotcha Very good subtle use of it. I've seen way too many images where it's not applicable, to used too strongly, so I applaud your judicious use.

What I really like about it is the layers of color - tan, reddish, blue (note the eye tends to move warm to cool), and then the vegetation itself is just beautiful, as is that dead tree. I love desert vegetation though, so that might play a large role as well



Apr 18, 2009 at 03:10 AM
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p.1 #19 · Eastern Sierra and DV


Alan:

Since you invited honest & brutal, allow me to be honest. (read: in my very subjective opinion.)

#1 - I really like, in fact I like it better than the vertical version I'd seen of Marc's. This feels much more balanced, and the lighting and processing look very nice and natural. Superb on all accounts except one, that I'd add a little bit more density, contrast, and darkness to the FG, as the small evergreens seem to be lacking definition here.

#2 - Sorry, but for me, this just feels way way wrong in terms of post processing colors and saturation. The blue / cyan is almost at an alien level. In addition to it being a slightly loose composition w/ too much sky, the photo just has a very 'unreal' feel.

#3 - I understand this was on one of Marc's Workshops or Tours. I have no idea how he handles or instructs or guides, but having seen his very dramatic interpretation of this scene, I just have to wonder how much personal vision you've added to this scene, and for me, the answer is none. Of course I could be totally wrong (reversed) and you can tell me if I am, but this looks as if you came across a scene that Marc set up or showed, and you simply put your camera and same lens in the exact same spot. Just for giggles, I overlaid the two images, and the nearness of framing is nearly spooky. For me, it's like you totally missed a chance to put your own personal spin on this location. I'm also curious about the contrail. Did you notice it when you shot this, or got back & was processing your shots. I ask because if the latter, I wonder why you either didn't wait for the contrail to disappear, or somehow search for a different composition that would have eliminated or lessened the presence of the contrail? (Just pondering questions, these...)

# 4 - Same processing comments as others, but also point out as an interesting compositional choice the rock in the extreme LLC, and the other rock just barely touching the bottom frame. I'm curious why you choose to leave those in those locations. The Right rock is not as bothersome, but would have liked to see a tad bit more space off the edge. The LLC rock in the exact corner just feels, well... lumpy. Very nice reflection and sunstar though. Those parts are very well executed.

# 5 - Again, processing looks a bit unreal. I would like to have seen a bit more focus on the ground subjects & less on the sky. Also, including only half a bush chopped off by the left edge seems off to me, when it looks like if you'd taken 1.5 steps to the right, you could have perfectly matched the FG roots to the Mid-ground bush that would then be fully in-frame. To me, the sky just isn't that important. As it is now, my eye gets led in to a space filled with, well, nothing, then zips up center frame to the sun, which is too near the top edge, and poof, my eye is out of the photo, and nothing is drawing my eye back in.

# 6 - I really like the FG bushes and colors also. Agree w/ Floris, the sky can go; again, some better post processing seems like it will help better define your personal vision in a more natural style. I really like these types of shots, and think with a bit of a redo & crop, you might have another really nice wall-hanger to go with your Mt. Tom shot.

Cheers, & hope that wasn't too brutal, given that it was as honest as I could subjectively muster.

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Apr 18, 2009 at 08:51 AM
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p.1 #20 · Eastern Sierra and DV


No landscape is ever boring and shouldn't be called that.
I like them all very much, with 5 being my favourite.
Ute

Apr 18, 2009 at 08:54 AM
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