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Archive 2009 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE

  
 
maverick666
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p.7 #1 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


Hmmm...maybe next time we can request stuff to Canon through you ?

Willamette wrote:
Woot! One of these lenses is a delivery of a request I made six months ago (less 1mm).
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/680074/0#6086775

Glad someone at Canon was listening. However, knowing the lead time for development I'm sure this lens was on their drawing board a year or more ago.





Feb 18, 2009 at 11:11 AM
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p.7 #2 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


Willamette wrote:
the lead time for development... was on their drawing board a year or more ago.

No "lead" in that glass



Feb 18, 2009 at 11:12 AM
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p.7 #3 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


Ed Sawyer wrote:
17f4 TSE MTFs:

http://cweb.canon.jp/ef/lineup/ts-e/ts-e17-f4l/img/spec/mtf.png

16-35L mk II mtfs (check the 16mm in comparison to the 17 above):

http://cweb.canon.jp/ef/lineup/wide-zoom/ef16-35-f28lii/img/spec/mtf.png



All I can say is Wow.


millsbury wrote:
holy crap that is expensive! Same price as a 5D II??!!


If those charts are accurate, the 17 TS-E may actually be a more impressive technical achievement than the 5DII.

Anyone who has watched the price of Leica primes knows that optical excellence usually doesn't come cheap (28 f/2.0 prime for $4000, anyone? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/586193-USA/Leica_11661_Wide_Angle_28mm_f_2_0.html)

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A lot of us have been hoping for a wider TS-E for years. I'm just shaking my head; I can't believe Canon actually did it! Will wonders never cease...

This is really, really impressive.



Feb 18, 2009 at 11:15 AM
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p.7 #4 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


Just like the 24L II isn't just a $600 lens coat vs the 24L. The 24L II improve a lot of things showing up on the 24L with the newer sensors. I expect the same with the new TSE L's.

Now a toss up... TSE 24L II or 24L II.



Feb 18, 2009 at 11:19 AM
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p.7 #5 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


Is it just me or are the MTF's from the Japanese site and the US site noticeably different? Both the 17+24 seem so.


Feb 18, 2009 at 11:28 AM
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p.7 #6 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


With Architects closing their doors on a daily basis and Real Estate agents and Interior Designers cutting back I see no reason to upgrade either my TS-E24L or 5D while sitting with unpaid invoices from that segment of the economy.

I have been shooting AIA functions for 5 years and the last 6 months has caused dues paying members to withdraw.

They seem like overkill to me.




Feb 18, 2009 at 11:33 AM
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p.7 #7 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


Psychic1 wrote:
With Architects closing their doors on a daily basis and Real Estate agents and Interior Designers cutting back I see no reason to upgrade either my TS-E24L or 5D while sitting with unpaid invoices from that segment of the economy.

I have been shooting AIA functions for 5 years and the last 6 months has caused dues paying members to withdraw.

They seem like overkill to me.



I've noticed this as well in my neck of the woods. Not so many archtiects shutting their doors, but cancelling their advertising budgets.



Feb 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM
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p.7 #8 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


David:

I'm on Long Island NY and we are being hit extremely hard by Wall Street layoffs and the Madoff scheme.

Actually, I am 1 mile east of Canon USA.



Feb 18, 2009 at 11:40 AM
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p.7 #9 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


Based solely on the MTF... which one would you get?


Feb 18, 2009 at 11:42 AM
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p.7 #10 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


both of these look fantastic. the 17 especially - now crop users with 1.6x and 1.3x bodies can have wide angles with TSE. The optical quality of both is quite an achievement - too bad I can't afford them! Oh well, maybe some day...

on the plus side - with an achievement like that with these two fairly wide lenses - I can't wait to see what they can do when the re-vamp the 35L or the 24-70L



Feb 18, 2009 at 11:47 AM
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p.7 #11 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


again: €2500. insane. i suppose these lenses were already designed before the worldwide economic collapse, so i'm not blaming canon for their timing, but i can't expect that there will be too many sales of these things for a few years.

in. sane.



Feb 18, 2009 at 11:48 AM
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p.7 #12 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


Probably true, but the first people to have the 17mm when the advertising budgets thaw out will be in a killer position to offer something few other photographers would be able to produce . . .

abam wrote:
again: €2500. insane. i suppose these lenses were already designed before the worldwide economic collapse, so i'm not blaming canon for their timing, but i can't expect that there will be too many sales of these things for a few years.

in. sane.




Feb 18, 2009 at 11:52 AM
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p.7 #13 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


wish they did the update of the 90 first, being able to "spin" without surgery is a great addition


Feb 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM
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p.7 #14 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


These look great. Here is a true story.

In the Fall of 2006 I met Chuck Westfall at an EP convention in Atlanta. He had a table full of lenses and was showing me a 14mm L. I looked at him and said "You know, what you guys REALLY need now that so many architectural shooters are moving to Canon 1 series full frame cameras is an 18mm TS-E". He said "Do you have any idea how much that would cost?". I replied "No. But I would pay 3500.00 for one".

So, we get a 17mm TS-E and I get to save a grand.

This is a true story. Not sure if this conversation had anything to do with the development of the lens but I for sure took the info to him that there were a ton of shooters who could use it.



Feb 18, 2009 at 12:02 PM
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p.7 #15 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


Allan Bruce wrote:
I dont think anyone can say that a lens costing >$2000 is a steal. Not unless they just won the lottery!


I said the CURRENT TS-E lenses are a steal @ $975 or whatever they were most recently. Not the new $2k ones. Read closer.

-Ed



Feb 18, 2009 at 12:05 PM
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p.7 #16 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


The Canon USA MTFs are a little less detailed, (but seem similar), they leave out half the data of the Japanese ones it looks like. When in doubt, go with the Japanese version.


Feb 18, 2009 at 12:08 PM
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p.7 #17 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


If they perform well, the price isn't all that scary for folks who need them.


Feb 18, 2009 at 12:09 PM
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p.7 #18 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


abam wrote:
again: €2500. insane. i suppose these lenses were already designed before the worldwide economic collapse, so i'm not blaming canon for their timing, but i can't expect that there will be too many sales of these things for a few years.

in. sane.
As a pro architectural shooter I couldn't disagree more . If you don't shoot architecture you don't need to buy it but if you do and want performance that betters the existing 24mm TS-E ( and it's insane that you wouldn't) it's not a lot of money as long as it delivers the goods.



Feb 18, 2009 at 12:09 PM
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p.7 #19 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


One thing that the MTF's fail to show is the FULL area of coverage. Ie., we see to 20mm off center but these lenses go more than 30mm.

I wish we could MTF's for the full coverage area. Then we would have a better idea how the corners are going to look when at full shift.



Feb 18, 2009 at 12:15 PM
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p.7 #20 · 2 new lenses, 17 and 24mm TSE


No 35L II? NO 35L II?! WTF?!


Feb 18, 2009 at 12:43 PM
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