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p.2 #1 · Leica 19mm (II) thread


Cinstance wrote:
I have modified nearly half a dozen of the 19's. Ironically my current one was not modded, because I had a mirror-modded 5D.

The live view should work. The position the mirror rest is higher than the shroud's position when mounted.


The live view (of my 5d2) would not work as "thrice" has mentioned that the plastic part of the mirror holder extends below the mirror and this part interferred with the shroud.



Jan 29, 2009 at 09:17 PM
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p.2 #2 · Leica 19mm (II) thread


thrice wrote:
I shaved my 5D Mark II mirror Am I the first to do something so reckless?*

After 4 (YES 4!) attempts it finally clears the 19/2.8 Elmarit. After the 3rd try it was hanging on the return, but now it's perfect.
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You are a very dedicated alt lens user

Thanks a lot for sharing your experience. it's veyr nice to see the 19mm in its full glory. I can only use my imagination here..

I was actually contemplating to shave the lens the past few days. Now it seems that it's easier to shave the mirror. Need to think again ... my thinking is that if i shave the lens, i can use it on future genrations of Canon cameras. if i preserve the lens, i got to shave every new camera. (i have not intention of getting a Leica DSLR in the forseeable future)

How do you focus?

Even though i can't take pictures but i could mount and play with focusing (hey, it's better than nothing ). It's still difficult to focus accurately with the EG-S screen. With AF confirmation chip, the focusing agreed with the distance scale on the lens. The distance scale on my 19mm is accurate as I use it quite often with the 20D in low light situation when I can't see a thing through the viewfinder.



Jan 29, 2009 at 09:47 PM
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p.2 #3 · Leica 19mm (II) thread


thrice wrote:
I shaved my 5D Mark II mirror Am I the first to do something so reckless?*

After 4 (YES 4!) attempts it finally clears the 19/2.8 Elmarit. After the 3rd try it was hanging on the return, but now it's perfect.

One thing I would suggest to others considering the same thing: shave the mirror (and plastic assembly holding it) evenly. Don't have more shaved off in the middle, because the mirror (in my case at least) hits the shroud on the sides, which lines up with the left and right edges of the mirror.

* to this camera

Here's a
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That looks great.

In regards to the vignette, it is just part of the lens design and the way it hits the sensor, not the hood. It vignettes on film too. When you shoot a ROM version on a Leica DMR digital, some of the Vignette is corrected in camera. Hopefully this feature will be in the R10 too.

In regards to shaving the lens or shaving the mirror, in two or three years, the lens will be worth a lot more than your 5DII. I wouldn't risk shaving a lens. The repair can be over $1000 if anything goes wrong.

Robert



Jan 30, 2009 at 08:18 AM
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p.2 #4 · Leica 19mm (II) thread


Yeah my logic was a new mirror box is $300-400 new mirror is $50 here... New lens in this condition might be impossible without a LOT more than I paid. Mint for 1350 in box with all accessories and packaging.


Jan 30, 2009 at 09:28 AM
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p.2 #5 · Leica 19mm (II) thread


Sorry to resurrect this thread but I didn't know where else to post it, I managed to attach a 72-77mm step-up ring to my 19mm elmarit. I got a very small rubber band and stretched it around the barrel, I then wiggled the stepup ring over it and used my fingernail to nudge the rubber band fully under the ring.

It doesn't seem likely to come off without significant force (or pinching the rubber band out) and the rotational friction is huge so I can tightly screw filters on/off. I had to push it on to the point that the flat part of the step-up ring was below the original front of the lens barrel, otherwise I got vignetting with my CPL, but it still doesn't touch the barrel or lens.

Pictures will better illustrate what I'm trying to say:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Nephilim666/19mmCPL2.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Nephilim666/19mmStepup.jpg

And here is a shot wide open showing no extra vignetting. This lens always produces extreme falloff in the very extreme corners with my adapter because I think it is a little to thick.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Nephilim666/19mmCPL.jpg

EDIT: sorry for noise in shots, I didn't feel like getting the tripod and it's a very dark gloomy day round here.

EDIT2: dang, didn't realise these were in adobeRGB, didn't realise Safari for windows was colour aware, but it appears it is, I'll fix that now.



Aug 14, 2009 at 10:25 PM
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p.2 #6 · Leica 19mm (II) thread


Box it up and send it to me. I shoot a lowly 20D and will not have any clearance issues.

Jim



Aug 15, 2009 at 06:34 PM
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p.2 #7 · Leica 19mm (II) thread


Oh I have no clearance issues anymore. I have a well shaven 5D-II mirror and almost anything clears it

I met a lady at the beach at sunset tonight and she was like "what're you shooting"... I was like "oh the sunset?" She goes "no your camera" and I was excited cos she noticed my Leica and she followed up with "Canon 5D, same here!" and she continued shooting the sunset with her 5D, 24-70 and 580 EXII flash firing. I wonder how her shots came out, here's mine from today:

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/9654491-lg.jpg



Aug 16, 2009 at 07:04 AM
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p.2 #8 · Leica 19mm (II) thread


thrice wrote:
Sorry to resurrect this thread but I didn't know where else to post it, I managed to attach a 72-77mm step-up ring to my 19mm elmarit. I got a very small rubber band and stretched it around the barrel, I then wiggled the stepup ring over it and used my fingernail to nudge the rubber band fully under the ring.
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thrice, as you may have noticed, i've changed the title of this thread to a more general title which is better for searching (I hope). You've contributed lots of valuable information here and my original message title doesn't do your and other's contribution any justice. This should be your thread.

Attaching the step-up to the 19mm was a fantastic idea! Unfortunately, I've decided to sell my 19mm

There's an useful, informative (in chinese language but photos should be clear) and inspiring (some images are very good) thread that's solely on the Leica 19mm version I and II here:

http://forum.xitek.com/showthread.php?threadid=619411



Aug 27, 2009 at 11:20 PM
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p.2 #9 · Leica 19mm (II) thread


so you mean you attached the step up ring with a kind of large rubber O ring? is that what you meant? i would be very interested too.. A wide lens without possibility for ND or polarizer filters is a bit nonsense..


Aug 28, 2009 at 04:59 AM
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p.2 #10 · Leica 19mm (II) thread


Paoletto wrote:
so you mean you attached the step up ring with a kind of large rubber O ring? is that what you meant? i would be very interested too.. A wide lens without possibility for ND or polarizer filters is a bit nonsense..


I used a little purple flat elastic band, it was about 2cm diameter before stretched around the lens barrel. It's a 72->77mm step up ring. I use a normal (non-slim) 77mm B+W UV filter and a singh-ray lb warming polarizer in a slim 77mm mount. No additional vignetting from either filter.

For the ND grad I use the cokin p universal mount and push it onto the lens barrel from behind the filter (have to take the lens off the body to put the holder on) it allows the single nd filter to be held *just* in front of the polarizer, avoiding reflections and vignetting. Here's one from this morning with this setup:

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/9704741-lg.jpg



Aug 28, 2009 at 11:32 AM
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p.2 #11 · Leica 19mm (II) thread


makron wrote:
thrice, as you may have noticed, i've changed the title of this thread to a more general title which is better for searching (I hope). You've contributed lots of valuable information here and my original message title doesn't do your and other's contribution any justice. This should be your thread.

Attaching the step-up to the 19mm was a fantastic idea! Unfortunately, I've decided to sell my 19mm

There's an useful, informative (in chinese language but photos should be clear) and inspiring (some images are very good) thread that's solely on the Leica 19mm version I and II here:

http://forum.xitek.com/showthread.php?threadid=619411


Wow great thread, the wedding photos are amazing! Why oh why would you sell it



Aug 28, 2009 at 11:41 AM
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p.2 #12 · Leica 19mm (II) thread


You should have sold it to me, for a sixpack!


Aug 28, 2009 at 12:29 PM
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p.2 #13 · Leica 19mm (II) thread


If the bride photos on the above link are indeed from the Version One 19-R lens, then it may be a very underestimated lens. Those look fantastic !


Aug 28, 2009 at 01:56 PM
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p.2 #14 · Leica 19mm (II) thread


thrice wrote:
....Why oh why would you sell it


I couldn't bring myself on many occasions to shave the lens or the camera. For me, any unuse or rarely use lens has to go no matter how fantastic it is or how much I'm attached to it.



Sep 03, 2009 at 10:37 PM
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p.2 #15 · Leica 19mm (II) thread


ulrikft wrote:
You should have sold it to me, for a sixpack!


After the sixpack, you just might as I'm a lousy drinker



Sep 03, 2009 at 10:39 PM
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p.2 #16 · Leica 19mm (II) thread


gmanp wrote:
If the bride photos on the above link are indeed from the Version One 19-R lens, then it may be a very underestimated lens. Those look fantastic !


Yup, he used the version one on his D3X.



Sep 03, 2009 at 10:41 PM
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p.2 #17 · Leica 19mm (II) thread


Didn't want to start a new thread...my apologies for bumping this one up. But I wanted to note that this lens outresolves the 7D sensor...and gave me a good dose of the evil that is Bayer filtering.


Oct 27, 2009 at 12:55 AM
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