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p.1 #1 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

Has anyone tested/compared the new Zeiss canon mount 21mm ZE lense against the lengendary 21mm Contax/Zeiss version with Canon adapter ?

I am curious how much my contax/zeiss version will drop in price, especially if the new Zeiss is as good, if not better....TIA

Dec 03, 2008 at 01:48 PM

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p.1 #2 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

I do not think they are out yet. But, something many want to know.

Dec 03, 2008 at 02:35 PM

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p.1 #3 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

The MTFs (which are typically very reliable from Zeiss) indicate that the new one will be significantly better.

Dec 03, 2008 at 02:42 PM

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p.1 #4 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

cogitech wrote:
The MTFs (which are typically very reliable from Zeiss) indicate that the new one will be significantly better.

woa, is that even possible? :|

Dec 03, 2008 at 03:39 PM

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p.1 #5 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

Yes.

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Dec 03, 2008 at 03:43 PM

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p.1 #6 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

I'm wondering what Zeisss strategy is. They seem to be releasing revised lenses in some focal lengths and retaining the Contax designs in the others (50/1.4 85/1.4).

Dec 03, 2008 at 04:27 PM

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p.1 #7 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

bluetsunami wrote:
I'm wondering what Zeisss strategy is. They seem to be releasing revised lenses in some focal lengths and retaining the Contax designs in the others (50/1.4 85/1.4).

Can any improvement be done in 50mm and 85mm (and even 135mm too, to some extent) focal length... Easiest to design...

Below 40mm, its all retro focus designs... with new design techniques and material sciences, you will keep seeing improvement... but in rangefinder, (I havent used any yet) it may be peaking there already...

Dec 03, 2008 at 04:40 PM

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p.1 #8 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

asbalyan wrote:

Can any improvement be done in 50mm and 85mm ....

In my opinion, yes, there is plenty of room for improvement.

Dec 03, 2008 at 04:56 PM

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p.1 #9 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

What is the ZE 21mm supposed to cost when released ?

Dec 03, 2008 at 05:05 PM

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p.1 #10 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

$1700 or so, I think.

I'll give you $800 for your Contax, though, so no worries.

Dec 03, 2008 at 05:20 PM

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p.1 #11 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

You might want to look at the original thread here on this comparison:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/711268

Dec 03, 2008 at 05:30 PM

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p.1 #12 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

cogitech wrote:
$1700 or so, I think.

I'll give you $800 for your Contax, though, so no worries.

cute !

Dec 03, 2008 at 05:59 PM

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p.1 #13 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

cogitech wrote:
asbalyan wrote:

Can any improvement be done in 50mm and 85mm ....

In my opinion, yes, there is plenty of room for improvement.

I'd agree, with the caveat that said improvement will require either more complex designs or use of exotic elements (a la the Sigma 50/1.4, Canon 50L, Summilux Asph)

Dec 03, 2008 at 06:02 PM

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p.1 #14 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

rockitman wrote:
cogitech wrote:
$1700 or so, I think.

I'll give you $800 for your Contax, though, so no worries.

cute !

So, no deal then? You might regret that in 6 months.

Dec 03, 2008 at 06:07 PM

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p.1 #15 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

cogitech wrote:
rockitman wrote:
cogitech wrote:
$1700 or so, I think.

I'll give you $800 for your Contax, though, so no worries.

cute !

So, no deal then? You might regret that in 6 months.

Nah, I doubt the quality improvement if any will be that decernible. If the new sells at $1700, well my copy, at least to me will be worth that much...even though I paid $2,900 2 years ago....

Dec 03, 2008 at 06:39 PM

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p.1 #16 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

cogitech wrote:
$1700 or so, I think.

I'll give you $800 for your Contax, though, so no worries.

The Euro has dropped against the dollar, so it might be less expensive in the U.S.

Dec 03, 2008 at 06:42 PM

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p.1 #17 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

I wonder how much this one is going for... I never thought the Distagon 21 would go under 1000$ one day!

D21 on ebay

Dec 05, 2008 at 12:23 PM

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p.1 #18 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

Here are the mtfs equalized in scale. The new 21 is in red.

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Dec 05, 2008 at 12:49 PM

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p.1 #19 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

Anyone know when we'll see the new version hit the store shelves?

Dec 05, 2008 at 06:48 PM

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p.1 #20 · Zeiss 21mm ZE vs Contax/Zeiss 21mm

Thanks for the overlay Dan...looks like significant improvement in most areas. But there may be more CA...

I wonder what the distortion will be like...

Dec 05, 2008 at 09:25 PM

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