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#66 in a Series of Impressions Threads: "Mezzo"
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READ THIS FIRST:
Please share your impressions. That helps me as an artist and will be appreciated and enjoyed by the subject too (i.e. the pianist) when I share your Impressions with her in a few days.

I take the time to write up many bits of technique and tips both here in my own impressions discussions (see below) and in 4,500+ posts put up by other photographers. So, while I do like helping others here, it DOES help me if you will write your impressions in this thread. It only takes a moment to give an impression that may be very helpful and will be appreciated by the subject or pianist too. And if you enjoy this image or this type of discussion, you are invited to visit any of the previous 64 Impressions images/discussions and leave your own impression on any of them too. Just type "Impressions" in the search field of this forum to find a list of them. Thanks in advance.

Put another way...Don't Just Lurk...Join In. Add value. Contribute. Share your thoughts. Help others. Post your Impression. : )

THE IMAGE LINK: Impressions Image #66 Mezzo"
http://www.steadmanuhlich.com/impressions66/index.html
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NOTES:

NOTE 1:
This image was made at the same time as the last image (Rondo 2). However, the POV is different, the eye contact is direct to the camera and the light looks different on the face (but it is the same light sources).

BIG NOTE!
For the purpose of this discussion, I would like you to give me your impressions on her natural facial expression while she was playing. What do you see in that expression?

NOTE 2 : This post is an example of a pianist "looking PAST the piano" while playing. Remember...this is "all natural." The pianist is actually playing while I photographed her. This "look" (with the eyes above the piano) is NOT as commonly seen. The "look" is of a pianist "playing." Not all "playing images" have closed eyes. But, in this case, while she is looking "past the piano" I happened to step into her line of sight (so the camera could record what she looked like while playing). So, you might think that she is looking AT me, while in reality she is looking "through" me as she was looking just like this even while I was NOT standing in this line. That is about as "natural" as one can get without having a really long telephoto or a two way mirror or a duck blind. In short, this is the "natural expression" she had while she is playing (even when no one was in front of her).

NOTE 3: "Mezzo" is a musical term that simply means "middle or half" and as this image POV is showing "half" of her body from "the middle of the piano", this title fits the image in more than one way.

NOTE 4: This is the sister of the pianist shown in several other portraits (including Presto, Forte). Her sister has dark brown hair. They are both excellent concert pianists and sometimes play duets.

NOTE 5: This image, when viewed over the net may appear softer than it really is as a print due to the saving of a large file for the web. The moment I saw it after it was posted on a web page, I saw this "softening" effect. In reality, the image makes a large print that is very "luscious" with deep blacks, nice flesh tones (gray) and tiny bits of highlights that make the image as a whole "sparkle" with life. It is a very nice "classic B&W" toned image with lots of subtle shadow details (like her black dress texture and the glossy looking edges of the piano). I wish I could show you the print. On THIS image, I did sharpen it for the web, so the overall look is a little different from my print.

NOTE 6: Read the "Tools" and "Techniques" notes below to understand how this image was made without flash and how it captures a natural moment (not posed) as the musician is actually performing a piece of music. I wrote those sections to help you with some tips.

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TOOLS, TECHNIQUES & METHODS

My Intent or Goal:
Create a Black and White portrait of this woman that shows her unique beauty. For this image I wanted to create an image that captures her while she is playing. I thought her eyes were beautiful (green), her features very nice and her look refreshingly "natural." This image is one of several I made of her, so she became the subject of several "Impressionistic" images.

This particular image is one of a set to show one of those "moods." This one is one of the more "serious" portrait images. Now...what do YOU see?

The Piano (Prop):
For those of you who like pianos...I am sure you would like to see more of the instrument. This is a 9 foot Steinway Concert Grand piano (Model D New York). The price is about $150,000 or so for this instrument. When played "Forte" this piano and its long strings create powerful sounds (they caused me to say "WOW") with wonderfully long resonance. A beautiful instrument and very beautiful sounds (unlike smaller pianos).

The Figure Position (Pose):
She is actually playing the piano. Her fingers are actually pushing keys.
This is not always "seen" by the camera or eye. And her gaze is up from the keys in a natural "look" sometimes (but not often) seen in photos of pianists. It is a "natural" position (in action) and not an artificial "pose." The music was beautiful and an important part of her expressions and "pose."

The Light:
All natural sunlight WITH a single spotlight. Most of my other Pianist Portraits were photographed using only natural light from a window.

The Tools:
My preference is for keeping the use of tools very simple. The image is made with minimal equipment and processing. The lens was a 50mm, set at f1.4 and shutter speed 1/800 sec and shot hand-held (in keeping with my nickname). I could use a faster shutter speed on this one image because I added light with the single spotlight to supplement the natural sunlight.

The Technique:
The most important things to use during a session like this is...patience and an open mind. Patience to see the image when the light and expression were just right.

Notes:
1. This is part of my Natural Expressions series and part of a project focused on pianists. So, while some "expressions" are very easy to see because of a broad smile, laugh, or scowl, this one is something more subtle, and depends on the body language or expression using the body. I don't expect everyone to see this.

2. This is a greatly reduced file for the web. Unfortunately, the image appears to lose some details at this reduction and also is beginning to show some jpg artifacts from all the saving for different sizes and formats I use on the web and in other media. So...the skin does not look as textured (sharp) (naturally) as it does in the actual print. In the original print (which appears sharper), the individual hairs on her head and her eyelashes are very distinct (as an example) and the skin has a completely natural texture (no smoothing). Also at this size on the web, the contrast is not what one sees in a final print. For example, in the web view, you may see a lack of texture in the highlight areas of the skin (or they may appear 'hot') and in the shadow areas too. In the final print there is a very natural look to the her skin, hair, and the textures of her garment. In fact, in large prints (and on my calibrated monitor) one can see the very subtle tonal differences between the background and the hair or black garments. She is wearing black wool...and that is very difficult to expose while keeping the white keys and highlights at a nice point. The final print has natural texture there. It is subtle but lost in the web viewing. IN short, her black garments look better in the print than they do on the web.

3. This made a very "natural" and beautiful portrait that appears very much alive and 3-D.

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IMPRESSIONS STYLE Basics

Why is an Impressions Style Thread Used Here?

Short answer: To get a different kind of discussion going on a posted image, encourage lurkers to participate, and for the artist to learn something about the interpretations or impressions evoked by the image posted.

My Simple Suggestion for this forum: Contribute what you can in photographs, or comments or Impressions (as requested here) and this will be a richer viewing experience for everyone who visits.

IF you are a lurker, this type of thread is a very easy way for you to participate in the forum and you can contribute something and it can be fun. Go ahead and jump in. If you were a lurker before, let me know that too. I am hoping this type of discussion will get more people to participate here as that will enrich the forum.

I believe many people are just lurkers because they feel they cannot post "proof" of their expertise and they may be intimidated from posting anything that would not sound "smart enough" regarding photography and the technical aspects of it. I think the technical discussions are fine for those that want them (in their own threads). I also think there are many others who may not want to get technical and enjoy their photography a different way. This is NOT about technical stuff, so feel free to be poetic or "impressionistic" as that is encouraged.

The development of this new style of thread posting (Impressions) will give an opportunity to many people who do not feel comfortable discussing photos in technical terms.

This type of thread is NOT about technical things (that is "off topic" in this kind of thread), it is simply about how you "see" and "feel" things in the image shown. So, anyone from a rank beginner or newbie to an expert can participate on equal standing. Here is your chance.

A FUN Tip: It is more fun if you look at the image before reading any other Impressions posted by others. So take a look, get an impression, add your impression at the bottom (and please give your first name and city), and then take a minute to read some of the earlier postings. You might chuckle or smile as you see how others see the same image.
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How an Impressions Discussion Works:

This is the 64th Impressions Thread I have started. IF you have never read one of these before, please read the middle and bottom of this thread before viewing the photo or posting your comments.

This type of thread or discussion is NOT about technical critiques. IF you don't understand what I mean by "Impressions," simply spend a few minutes reading below or on the linked page where the image is shown. I give tips on this type of thread and answer some questions people have asked me here before.

I have put the link to the image closer to the top of this post to make it quick and easy to find. The other detailed text below the portrait introduction is for those who want to read it or need some guidance on this new approach to discussion threads here on the forum. Over time, I will reduce the amount of text as I believe others here on the forum begin to understand the intent of this type of discussion or "Impression" thread. You are encouraged to leave your Impressions (as described below) but I do ask that you leave "Impressions" as that is the topic. IF you missed the other earlier Impressions threads I started, simply look back in the forum or search for a thread with topics starting "Your Impression?" and you will find them.


IF you feel a need to debate the value of Impressions versus Technical Criticism, then please do not do it in this thread (as that is "off topic"), and instead do it in the thread where that debate IS the topic of discussion, here: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/649345

You might also enjoy reading the different "Impressions about Impressions" thread here:
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/653643

It is very simple. Here is my request: To add positive value to this thread or discussion, please share your "Impressions" of the figure or face or expression or action or "total image" in the photo you see. Put very simply: "What do you see or sense about the person in the photo?" Also, please tell me your First Name + City when you give me your Impression. That is important for my Global Impressions Project (A few paragraphs describing my project are found on the page linked to the image page. You will find it on the second page if you want to know more.)

Also, I encourage you to post your own "Impressions" thread with a photo some time. Reading the variety of Impressions is very satisfying and helpful to any artist who is interested in how a work of art (photo) affects a viewer or viewers. So, try it some time. My Simple Suggestion: Place the word "Impression" as the first word of your topic title for the thread and then people will know you want Impressions rather than technical criticism. The rest is up to you.


Dec 02, 2008 at 02:22 AM
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OK... my turn to start the dance.

Norman Wilson from beautiful Comox, British Columbia, Canada.

In #65, I felt that she was playing a passage for herself - lost in the moment of the music. In this one, I feel, because of her expression and eye contact with the viewer, that she is playing directly TO me. She's enjoying MY appreciation of the music. Or perhaps my appreciation of her. Or perhaps even that she's just realized that I caught her getting lost in the music and her expression is a reflection of my own knowing smile.

Another fine image, Steady, and I thank you for making me stop and enjoy the images and evaluate the feelings - not the technicality - of the images.

Best.
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Dec 02, 2008 at 03:48 AM
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This is an interesting shot, as her gaze presents almost a friendly challenge. It brings to mind images of dueling pianos. I think she is very pretty and I love the view straight down the strings like in the other "Impressions" with her.

-Zach

Dec 02, 2008 at 05:54 AM
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I really like this one. I agree with Zach in that she has hit the spot right where she is perfectly comfortable with the melody and the notes and now she can play without focusing. She knows the song and the feeling and she's looking up to say "Oh yeah... try me!"

Love it.

I know this isn't a place to discuss critiques, and the comment below isn't one, just fyi.
For a ... partner (?) piece, I think it would be interesting to have the same posture and pose, but have her turning her head over one shoulder to face you.

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Dec 02, 2008 at 06:06 AM
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This is an interesting shot, as her gaze presents almost a friendly challenge. It brings to mind images of dueling pianos. I think she is very pretty and I love the view straight down the strings like in the other "Impressions" with her.

-Zach
+1 The lighting makes her eyes different sizes.
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njw wrote:
OK... my turn to start the dance.

Norman Wilson from beautiful Comox, British Columbia, Canada.

In #65, I felt that she was playing a passage for herself - lost in the moment of the music. In this one, I feel, because of her expression and eye contact with the viewer, that she is playing directly TO me. She's enjoying MY appreciation of the music. Or perhaps my appreciation of her. Or perhaps even that she's just realized that I caught her getting lost in the music and her expression is a reflection of my own knowing smile.

Another fine image, Steady, and I thank you for making me stop and enjoy the images and evaluate the feelings - not the technicality - of the images.

Best.
njw


Hello Norman/njw.

You really do have a nice way of describing an image and feeling with words.

I like that you get a different sense from this image compared to its companion (65 Rondo 2). That "direct" look makes a difference to me too.

Thanks for getting the impressions comments started, and for adding such a good one too.

Cheers to you!

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zzalnera wrote:
This is an interesting shot, as her gaze presents almost a friendly challenge. It brings to mind images of dueling pianos. I think she is very pretty and I love the view straight down the strings like in the other "Impressions" with her.

-Zach


Hi Zach.

I am SURE she is going to like this impression you have of her.

Thanks for adding you thoughts and for sharing your impression

It does help.

Good light to you.

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bsirjani wrote:
I really like this one. I agree with Zach in that she has hit the spot right where she is perfectly comfortable with the melody and the notes and now she can play without focusing. She knows the song and the feeling and she's looking up to say "Oh yeah... try me!"

Love it.

I know this isn't a place to discuss critiques, and the comment below isn't one, just fyi.
For a ... partner (?) piece, I think it would be interesting to have the same posture and pose, but have her turning her head over one shoulder to face you.

Best Regards,

Behzod
Seattle, Washington


Hello Behzod,

I am glad to see you posting another impression.

Your thoughts on this are interesting (to me) and helpful too. You wrote: "she can play without focusing" and I agree. She was playing some piece that was so familiar to her it just "flowed" and she did not need to look at the keys.

I enjoyed watching that part of her playing too. Because it allowed her to express herself in a different manner. The "intense concentration" was replaced with a more "blissful" and "satisfied" look on her face (all natural). I used to see my own father get that look when he hummed a tune to himself, purely for his own enjoyment.

You mention the "turn of the head" position and I do have one (a few actually) that is one of my favorites (of her) but it is not possible to show it to public yet.

I also have some "ideas" (in my brain) of a "duet" image (her and her sister playing on two pianos simultaneously but it is going to be a challenge.

When she and her partner (sister) play a duet, the pianos were placed side by side (so they face the same way) with keyboards practically touching. So...it means a different POV and approach may be needed (or a very wide angle of view).. The other issue is the "lid" of one piano will mostly block the view of the other pianist beside her. So...it is a tough POV to maintain. But, I am "working on" some way of capturing the two playing together (without poses).

Thanks again for adding to this discussion and I hope to see you in more Impressions discussions too.


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Peter Fry wrote:
This is an interesting shot, as her gaze presents almost a friendly challenge. It brings to mind images of dueling pianos. I think she is very pretty and I love the view straight down the strings like in the other "Impressions" with her.

-Zach
+1 The lighting makes her eyes different sizes.
Peter


Hello Peter.

It is always nice to see you in one of these discussions.

You wrote: "+1"

That was a very short Impression.

I suppose I could put that in the exhibition as "+1" but it may need some "backstory."

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The following will also be part of my future book...so remember...you saw it here first.
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You also mention "one eye is bigger" observation due to light.

Light makes all kinds of things happen.
When I see one eye smaller or bigger than another, I consider the source of light and the relative effect AND the situation (location, activity, etc.).

People who use studio flash all the time are often surprised to see this, since they usually shoot in relatively dim rooms with only momentary bursts of light.

For most "Studio Flash" users, the goal appears to be "a single catch-light" (no more mind you) and it "must" be at the 1:00 position (not too low, not too high, and rarely at 10:00).

I see eyes very differently!

I base my POV on my own "eyeball" observations (close) of people in real situations, real rooms, ambient light of all types, and in real "sunlight."

In the real world, people often squint, or have a different "look" to their eyes. It is completely natural.

This is particularly noticeable in real sunlight, real stage lighting (which is often harsh spotlights), and in real outdoors ambient lighting (such as on water or at the beach etc.).

AND....they can often have lots of different "catchlights" at different points on the eye and of different shapes, sizes, and intensities. Rarely do they look like a white octagon or "umbrella" (in shape) and so I do not find a "typical" catch-light (studio made) to look very natural at all.

OK that was the "serious" part of my POV.

You know I like humor too. So follow this line of humorous reasoning:

For fun, imagine what would have happened to Clint Eastwood's "image" if he did not have that "squint" (he was "known" for his "Clint with the glint/squint" look) that was so famous in his images of the "Man with No Name" character. Can you imagine him with big dilated pupils and a single catch-light at the 1:00 position? It would have been a completely different and unnatural look (to my eye).

So..."Vive la difference!"

In short, I think it is more natural to see a variety of catch-lights and how the eyes react to light in a natural way to various types of light.



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When I first looked at this I thought I saw a beautiful woman playing piano for you and thinking that you both were doing something you love and combining them. Like a meeting of minds. The more I look the more I think this. This is all very interesting and indeed takes us away from just the technicalities of the photos. All very good for portrait photographers.
Diolch (thank you, in Welsh of course)

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SteadyHand,
I think she is "looking at" the music she is hearing. She has surpassed written score or even the keys. This is not easy to explain, but I probably do this--I have a Steinway.

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seren wrote:
When I first looked at this I thought I saw a beautiful woman playing piano for you and thinking that you both were doing something you love and combining them. Like a meeting of minds. The more I look the more I think this. This is all very interesting and indeed takes us away from just the technicalities of the photos. All very good for portrait photographers.
Diolch (thank you, in Welsh of course)


Hi Seren.

I was happy to see you in another Impressions discussion.

I very much liked what you wrote too. Very nice thoughts. Made me smile.

Thank you too and "Good light to you.

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Classicam wrote:
SteadyHand,
I think she is "looking at" the music she is hearing. She has surpassed written score or even the keys. This is not easy to explain, but I probably do this--I have a Steinway.


Hi,

Thanks for adding your impressions too. I follow you. You have an interesting POV and I am sure it matters that you play the piano too.

I liked your words: "She has surpassed written score or even the keys."

Nice.

Please send me a PM with your first name and city/state/country so I can add your impression to my Global Impressions Project.

I also hope to see you in some of the other Impressions discussions (past, present or future). There have been 67 so far so lots to see if you missed them. Simply type "Impressions" in the search box on this forum and you will find a list. Not all are of pianists.



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Steady,
Another very nice image.
I like her looking into the camera as it brings the viewer closer to her. A slight tilt to her head as if she is "hearing" the music eminate from the piano may help. Just my.02.
I have a hard time feeling her play the music with her arms in that position. Perhaps with one arm elevated a bit or slightly away from her body there would more of a sense that she is actually playing the piano.
The technical side for me is that the BW is wonderful. The skin tones and overall look to the image is great. Only a couple of things bother me and they are the shadow area above her right eye and the section of piano that is oof in the fg. The two objects that come together in the fg I find very distracting and actually spent a lot of time trying to figure out what they were.
I am no critic so take everthing I say with a grain of salt and a nice cold beer.
Your images are always wonderful.


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Hi steady my statement about apparrent eye size was an observation not a critism as I enjoy the way light can create illisions such as this some people have aparently different size eyes due to eye lid construction. So just an observation not a put down of the redoubtable Mr Eastwood.

Dec 03, 2008 at 09:46 AM
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Klaus Priebe wrote:
Steady,
Another very nice image.
I like her looking into the camera as it brings the viewer closer to her. A slight tilt to her head as if she is "hearing" the music eminate from the piano may help. Just my.02.
I have a hard time feeling her play the music with her arms in that position. Perhaps with one arm elevated a bit or slightly away from her body there would more of a sense that she is actually playing the piano.
The technical side for me is that the BW is wonderful. The skin tones and overall look to the image is great. Only a couple of things bother me and they are the shadow area above her right eye and the section of piano that is oof in the fg. The two objects that come together in the fg I find very distracting and actually spent a lot of time trying to figure out what they were.
I am no critic so take everthing I say with a grain of salt and a nice cold beer.
Your images are always wonderful.


Hi Klaus.

There is no need to think one has to be a "critic" to participate in ANY Impressions discussion.

Just share what you "sense, feel, and see."

NOTE to FORUM:
What follows may seem like a "argument" to some, but it is not. I am simply responding (in a totally friendly voice) to the points raised by Klaus. That is a dialogue.

Thanks for adding your impressions to this discussion.

I am glad you like the BW look here. I do too.

The "looks like she is not playing" issue is a tough one to "fix" from this POV. The piano blocks the arms and hands. So...even while she is playing we can not see the hands. More typical shots show a pianist looking down at their hands or the keys (or with what appears to be eyes closed). One could say those don't look like a pianist playing either...they look like a pianist snoozing.

As for the other things you mentioned (shadow above eye) and "objects in fg" I can only say...they are part of the natural scene/object/person. I am not exactly sure which little shadow you are seeing above her eye. It may be a shadow above her eyelid and below her eyebrow. It doesn't bother me. It is natural. It may be it is a tiny shadow cast by her 'bangs' or hair on her forehead. It does not bother me. I like shadows on faces. Even shadows like that one. In the large print, it lends a sense of "dimension" to the image and makes the bangs appear to be sticking out from the face. I am a painter too. And as a painter, I look for opportunities for "cast shadows" as they can be helpful in "fooling the eye" regarding "dimension" (depth). Did I create that little shadow on purpose. No. Do I like it there or feel "tolerant" of it? Yes. Do I think shadows are beneficial? Yes, most definitely.

The triangle shape you mention is part of the internal structure of the piano. Seeing it as shown is probably not how most people in an audience see the piano. I understand. But, like a pianist, I find it "part of the instrument" and nice to see.

Klaus, thanks again for participating and stimulating more discussion. I hope to see you in more Impressions threads too.

And I will bring the lime anytime you want to provide the salt and beer (or tequila)!

Good light to you.






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Impression: Welcome surprise. As if she was just playing without the knowledge of you being there, just her and the notes. And she just noticed that you were there, grateful that it was you, as it was for you all along.

She certainly has a beautiful gaze that the longer I look, the more I get called in.

I have to, however, keep reminding myself that she is in the middle of playing. I purposely looked initially at the image without reading any text to see what my reaction would be. Without reading, it looked like, "Hey, there's a piano, sit, and let me take a picture." The story behind it made a monumental difference.

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njjuliano wrote:
Impression: Welcome surprise. As if she was just playing without the knowledge of you being there, just her and the notes. And she just noticed that you were there, grateful that it was you, as it was for you all along.

She certainly has a beautiful gaze that the longer I look, the more I get called in.

I have to, however, keep reminding myself that she is in the middle of playing. I purposely looked initially at the image without reading any text to see what my reaction would be. Without reading, it looked like, "Hey, there's a piano, sit, and let me take a picture." The story behind it made a monumental difference.


Hello!

What a really nice "Impression" note to read first thing in the morning. You got my day started with a smile.

That is a great impression to have too.
You put into words exactly what I saw and was trying to capture for you (the viewer).

I know she will enjoy reading this impression of yours. It may tickle her a little as she is not my girlfriend or such, but I know she will like that her portrait connected with you on such a nice emotional level.

I really liked the way you wrote that. Such a nice thought. Seeing that she is playing for "you" (and "you" is everyone). Truly a nice "impression."

I bet she will like what you said about her gaze too.

You mentioned the "back-story" as important to understanding or appreciating the image. This "issue" is a contentious one and I believe it is often misunderstood and can be "provocative" to many photographers. It is such a "touchy" issue I don't feel it is good to elaborate here in this image discussion. But, I do know what you mean.

My quick point on that "issue" is simply this:
"images as we see them are seldom seen out of context."

I mean by that that we more often see images in an understandable context OR there is a context provided by means of a story, captions, remarks, placement, or additional images.

My personal preference is to "know" the context for an image. To me, it makes the image much more relevant and more powerful and more important to me. It is how I see the world and put those images in my brain as things to remember and consider and possibly enjoy.

I hope to see you in more Impressions discussions (Past, Present, Future). YOU have a great way of communicating your impressions and that is very helpful to me.

Finally, please send me a PM with your First Name, City, State. That helps me in my Global Impressions project. And it makes it easier to remember friends or "people" on a forum like this.

Good light to you.

Dec 03, 2008 at 02:36 PM
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Peter Fry wrote:
Hi steady my statement about apparrent eye size was an observation not a critism as I enjoy the way light can create illisions such as this some people have aparently different size eyes due to eye lid construction. So just an observation not a put down of the redoubtable Mr Eastwood.




Hi Peter.

I did not take it as criticism at all.

I saw your remark/note/comment simply as an observation of what you saw ("My what sharp eyes you have Peter.)

And...my response was a mixture of "serious opinion" and fun too.

Now...IF I had made a portrait of Jack Elam or Marty Feldman, I would understand if the eyes (and size of eyes) were more of a key feature. They too had eyes that because of their particular look, were famous and "characteristic" for them.

Dec 03, 2008 at 03:17 PM




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