Klaus Priebe wrote:
Steady,
Another very nice image.
I like her looking into the camera as it brings the viewer closer to her. A slight tilt to her head as if she is \"hearing\" the music eminate from the piano may help. Just my.02.
I have a hard time feeling her play the music with her arms in that position. Perhaps with one arm elevated a bit or slightly away from her body there would more of a sense that she is actually playing the piano.
The technical side for me is that the BW is wonderful. The skin tones and overall look to the image is great. Only a couple of things bother me and they are the shadow area above her right eye and the section of piano that is oof in the fg. The two objects that come together in the fg I find very distracting and actually spent a lot of time trying to figure out what they were.
I am no critic so take everthing I say with a grain of salt and a nice cold beer.
Your images are always wonderful.
Hi Klaus.
There is no need to think one has to be a \"critic\" to participate in ANY Impressions discussion.
Just share what you \"sense, feel, and see.\"
NOTE to FORUM:
What follows may seem like a \"argument\" to some, but it is not. I am simply responding (in a totally friendly voice) to the points raised by Klaus. That is a dialogue.
Thanks for adding your impressions to this discussion.
I am glad you like the BW look here. I do too.
The \"looks like she is not playing\" issue is a tough one to \"fix\" from this POV. The piano blocks the arms and hands. So...even while she is playing we can not see the hands. More typical shots show a pianist looking down at their hands or the keys (or with what appears to be eyes closed). One could say those don\'t look like a pianist playing either...they look like a pianist snoozing.
As for the other things you mentioned (shadow above eye) and \"objects in fg\" I can only say...they are part of the natural scene/object/person. I am not exactly sure which little shadow you are seeing above her eye. It may be a shadow above her eyelid and below her eyebrow. It doesn\'t bother me. It is natural. It may be it is a tiny shadow cast by her \'bangs\' or hair on her forehead. It does not bother me. I like shadows on faces. Even shadows like that one. In the large print, it lends a sense of \"dimension\" to the image and makes the bangs appear to be sticking out from the face. I am a painter too. And as a painter, I look for opportunities for \"cast shadows\" as they can be helpful in \"fooling the eye\" regarding \"dimension\" (depth). Did I create that little shadow on purpose. No. Do I like it there or feel \"tolerant\" of it? Yes. Do I think shadows are beneficial? Yes, most definitely.
The triangle shape you mention is part of the internal structure of the piano. Seeing it as shown is probably not how most people in an audience see the piano. I understand. But, like a pianist, I find it \"part of the instrument\" and nice to see.
Klaus, thanks again for participating and stimulating more discussion. I hope to see you in more Impressions threads too.
And I will bring the lime anytime you want to provide the salt and beer!
Klaus Priebe wrote:
Steady,
Another very nice image.
I like her looking into the camera as it brings the viewer closer to her. A slight tilt to her head as if she is \"hearing\" the music eminate from the piano may help. Just my.02.
I have a hard time feeling her play the music with her arms in that position. Perhaps with one arm elevated a bit or slightly away from her body there would more of a sense that she is actually playing the piano.
The technical side for me is that the BW is wonderful. The skin tones and overall look to the image is great. Only a couple of things bother me and they are the shadow area above her right eye and the section of piano that is oof in the fg. The two objects that come together in the fg I find very distracting and actually spent a lot of time trying to figure out what they were.
I am no critic so take everthing I say with a grain of salt and a nice cold beer.
Your images are always wonderful.
Hi Klaus.
There is no need to think one has to be a \"critic\" to participate in ANY Impressions discussion.
Just share what you \"sense, feel, and see.\"
NOTE to FORUM:
What follows may seem like a \"argument\" to some, but it is not. I am simply responding (in a totally friendly voice) to the points raised by Klaus. That is a dialogue.
Thanks for adding your impressions to this discussion.
I am glad you like the BW look here. I do too.
The \"looks like she is not playing\" issue is a tough one to \"fix\" from this POV. The piano blocks the arms and hands. So...even while she is playing we can not see the hands. More typical shots show a pianist looking down at their hands or the keys (or with what appears to be eyes closed). One could say those don\'t look like a pianist playing either...they look like a pianist snoozing.
As for the other things you mentioned (shadow above eye) and \"objects in fg\" I can only say...they are part of the natural scene/object/person. I am not exactly sure which little shadow you are seeing above her eye. It may be a shadow above her eyelid and below her eyebrow. It doesn\'t bother me. It is natural. It may be it is a tiny shadow cast by her \'bangs\' or hair on her forehead. It does not bother me. I like shadows on faces. Even shadows like that one. In the large print, it lends a sense of \"dimension\" to the image and makes the bangs appear to be sticking out from the face. I am a painter too. And as a painter, I look for opportunities for \"cast shadows\" as they can be helpful in \"fooling the eye\" regarding \"dimension\" (depth). Did I create that little shadow on purpose. No. Do I like it there or feel \"tolerant\" of it? Yes. Do I think shadows are beneficial? Yes, most definitely.
The triangle shape you mention is part of the internal structure of the piano. Seeing it as shown is probably not how most people in an audience see the piano. I understand. But, like a pianist, I find it \"part of the instrument\" and nice to see.
Klaus, thanks again for participating and stimulating more discussion. I hope to see you in more Impressions threads too.
Good light to you.
Dec 03, 2008 at 08:20 AM
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