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p.1 #1 · Does the vision impediment affect the manual focusing?


I have a slight problem with my eyes, where my left eye is farsighted and right is nearsighted.

When I am shooting I am using my left eye.
Right now I am wondering (as per topic) if the vision affects focusing? My AF shots come out fairly good - portraits and macro are easily misfocused when using AF, but my MF shots come out completely off! Especially using 16-35mm F2.8L, I have do do a fair bit of squinting and spend ages trying to focus properly.

I am using 350D and indeed, the eviewfinder is small. I adjusted the dioptric wheel several times over, but to no noticeable effect.

I appreciate any theories and comments.

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Nov 29, 2008 at 10:02 AM
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p.1 #2 · Does the vision impediment affect the manual focusing?


I'd expect you to do better with your right eye for manual focusing. It is a near vision task, looking at an image through a viewfinder.


Nov 29, 2008 at 03:08 PM
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p.1 #3 · Does the vision impediment affect the manual focusing?


As long as you can keep the focusing point in the right place you can shoot with your eyes closed if you want to. The camera does the focusing.


Nov 30, 2008 at 03:18 PM
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p.1 #4 · Does the vision impediment affect the manual focusing?


I'm visually impaired and this drastically affects my ability to MF. 99% of my work is done with AF, only rarely do I use MF for macro shots. I find it's easier to MF during macro shoots if I use smaller apertures, anywhere from f/8+.


Dec 01, 2008 at 05:36 PM
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p.1 #5 · Does the vision impediment affect the manual focusing?


I'm thinking only you can really answer that question.
I've been battling an eye disease for 26 years now. Recurrent Cornea Erosion.
It causes scarring of the cornea, extreme pain when there's an erosion (which can occur at any unexpected moment).
It cost me my studio in 1996 when my vision became so poor I could no longer see to photograph, or to tell whether the photo was in focus after it was printed!
A few years ago it was discovered that the lasik surgery caused the eye to produce the glue that sticks the cornea down, and thus a cure for the disease was discovered!
Happy days are here again. After two surgeries and one more to go Jan 5 I can now focus the camera and am getting back into photography.
Don't give up on it! With today's technology and digital and auto-focus you are in a lot better position than I was in 1996!



Dec 01, 2008 at 05:45 PM
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p.1 #6 · Does the vision impediment affect the manual focusing?


mkweaver wrote:
I'm thinking only you can really answer that question.
I've been battling an eye disease for 26 years now. Recurrent Cornea Erosion.
It causes scarring of the cornea, extreme pain when there's an erosion (which can occur at any unexpected moment).
It cost me my studio in 1996 when my vision became so poor I could no longer see to photograph, or to tell whether the photo was in focus after it was printed!
A few years ago it was discovered that the lasik surgery caused the eye to produce the glue that sticks the cornea down, and thus a cure for
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wow, what a sad story with a happy ending...
good luck



Dec 01, 2008 at 09:39 PM
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p.1 #7 · Does the vision impediment affect the manual focusing?


Thank you all veyr much for the suggestions. I will do some test shots today using my right eye and hopefully my MF shots will improve.

I find it unpredictable to use AF for most of my shots - portraits, landscape and macro. Very easy to miss. However with MF out of focus, AF is the only option atm.

Mkweaver: I am very sorry to hear what happened, but I am glad you recovered!



Dec 02, 2008 at 12:31 AM
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p.1 #8 · Does the vision impediment affect the manual focusing?


Resurrecting old thread with related question. I wear contacts and started out near sighted only but as I got older my near vision focus deteriorated. Bifocals work for glasses but I HATE wearing glasses so my contact prescription is for “dual mono vision”. Left eye is corrected for reading distance (but it also blurs things up really close compared to no correction). Right eye is corrected for far vision.

I wondered about setting the diopter adjustment for my left eye since the image is displayed more in the near vision range versus my right eye because what I am trying to focus for is in the far field but never found a definitive answer online. I experimented with both and found using my left eye felt very unnatural and was actually uncomfortable. Using my right eye felt comfortable as always and setting diopter compensation for my right eye (far vision) surprisingly resulted in sharper images for general photography when I used manual focus. I hardly ever use manual focus however BUT I do assess if autofocus is working accurately for each shot.

Today I spent two hours experimenting with some macro photography using my Canon 28-145mm “Macro Zoom lens” with an extension tube set and manual focus. Tripod was used along with a remote shutter triggger. I took great pains to really get the focus sharp but of course with the tubes my depth of field was limited. Upon downloading the images the sharpness varied from very minimally less sharp to some that were completely out of focus.

Since the camera diopter adjustment worked better for me using my far field right eye with general (non macro) photography now I am wondering if I would get better and more consistent results switching to my left eye with diopter changed to optimize for the left eye? That would be a complete mess for me as I struggle with a lot of brain fog/memory/mental vigilance secondary fo a severe sleep disorder so it is virtually guaranteed that if left eye optimization changes were made for Macro I would completely forget to change it back. Plus there are no real markers on my T2i for the diopter adjustments to return to so each switch would require a manual optimization process.

I just curious about recommendations to improve Macro manual focus and if my somewhat subjective experiment comparing which eye produced better focus results when the diopter was optimized for each eye individually can be logically explained?



Sep 10, 2019 at 09:14 PM
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p.1 #9 · Does the vision impediment affect the manual focusing?


Mickey wrote:
As long as you can keep the focusing point in the right place you can shoot with your eyes closed if you want to. The camera does the focusing.

To Mickey's point, my Canons have an audible sound when focus is achieved and the f.p. lights and I do some shooting in "M" with my glasses off.
Does your camera have these features?
Dan



Sep 11, 2019 at 10:12 AM
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p.1 #10 · Does the vision impediment affect the manual focusing?


I guess his body don't have those features!


Sep 19, 2019 at 09:10 AM
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p.1 #11 · Does the vision impediment affect the manual focusing?


My problem is a little different, and not as bad in the end, but here's my story:

A few years ago I had a bad bicycle accident, causing brain stem injury, including the trochlear nerve which controls the way one's eyeballs adjust to the horizon. Since then, my two eyes have differing horizons, which cannot be corrected, and I see double up close. My left eye tilts about 5 degrees down toward center, and the right about 5 toward center, maybe a tiny bit less.

To visualize this, imagine looking at two transparencies overlaid of the same thing, each tilted slightly. The one closest to you is normally the dominant one, I think. Currently I see those two transparencies, and the right one appears vertical, even though the left is in front of it and always provides a ghost image. One gets used to it, and the brain can put the images together at the top, and at distance, so I have binocular vision to drive, but must squint to walk down stairs or read.

The interesting thing here is that, for the previous many years, my vision had been left-dominant, and I always used the left eye for photography, even though it's visually a little weaker. The right is more far sighted. Overnight, I found I had become right eye dominant. My brain had to compensate for the skewed horizons and decide which eye would determine the level of the world, and chose the right. If I close my right eye, the world appears to be about 10 degrees tilted. So I also simply began using my right eye for photography as well. It took a little while to get used to this after over 40 years of left-eye viewfinding, but that's what worked best.

For normal horizontal view, I get straight horizons, but vertical needs the built in level. Live view is always tilted without a grid overlay. For critical vertical shots I tend to shoot a little wide so I can fix it in post.

I don't know how other brands work, but for the Nikon I use, a correctly calibrated lens will light the focus confirmation dot even in MF, so I can usually get a pretty good focus even in MF by watching for the dot. Practice helps too, and so does viewfinder magnification if you can find something for that.

Which is the long-form version of the advice that, if one eye works better for viewing, I'd just start trying to get used to it. Set the diopter, and work on improving your focusing ability with that one. If you're using a tripod for macros, try live view too.



Sep 25, 2019 at 08:17 AM





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