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p.1 #1 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

Hi guys,

I'm going to be looking at getting a 80mm Mamiya 645 lens in a few weeks to use on a mirex tilt / shift set up.
Apart from the obvious (the macro facility) how do these compare in sharpness to edges, distortion, etc.

Also any focus shift with lenses when focussing wide open and then changing to working aperture?

Cheers,

Marc

Nov 24, 2008 at 11:22 AM

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p.1 #2 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

Hi Marc. I have the 80/2.8N and 80/1.9, with an 80/4 Macro on the way for use with an Auto-Bellows N. I haven't noticed any focus shift when stopping down. I wouldn't be too concerned about which is sharper or has less distortion, as they're all excellent M645 normal lenses. I'd make my choice based on what I most want: fast, small & light, or macro. If you're not sure, then the 80/2.8N is generally a real bargain, and it's easy to carry around on the Mirex adapter. Jim.

Nov 24, 2008 at 12:06 PM

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p.1 #3 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

Thanks Jim,

It's mostly for use on a shift (+tilt) adapter and slow tripod interior / exterior shooting (no landscape trekking). I can pick up a brand new 80/2,8 for very little so would just go for that but may also use it for some product shooting also so the macro may well be a good bonus. If they both work just as well I'll look for the more costly macro version as it does give the added function.

Need to track down a sharp 35mm N also but that's for another thread really!

On topic does anyone know how to date a mamiya 645 lens by its serial number?

Cheers,

Marc

Nov 24, 2008 at 12:15 PM

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p.1 #4 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

marcwilson wrote:
a brand new 80/2,8 for very little

Marc

I dont think you can trigger the aperture of the new Mami lenses with the Mirex(?)

Nov 24, 2008 at 03:56 PM

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p.1 #5 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

Hi Andi...how you doing?

It's the older manual focus lens I can pick up new..remnants of old discontinued stock...no 35mm's though!

Nov 24, 2008 at 03:59 PM

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p.1 #6 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

marcwilson wrote:
Hi Andi...how you doing?

the spontaneous answer to this would be: I have to think about it

Still looking for snow? we have some now

Nov 24, 2008 at 04:23 PM

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p.1 #7 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

Always looking for snow...I'm coming over to the mountains in February for my honeymoon so hoping for a very white winter!

Nov 24, 2008 at 04:35 PM

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p.1 #8 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

I had the 80/1.9 and it was very sharp but I just didn't like the Bokeh, so I sold it.

Nov 24, 2008 at 10:10 PM

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p.1 #9 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

I believe there may be a newer version of the "kit" 80mm. As you probably know, all the Mamiya "digital" lenses are much more expensive. But if the 80 was upgraded some people may be selling the one they got as part of the package.

As far as the serial number, I have good luck with the U.S. importer (MAC) responding to questions.

Nov 24, 2008 at 11:04 PM

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p.1 #10 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

gasrocks wrote:
I had the 80/1.9 and it was very sharp but I just didn't like the Bokeh, so I sold it.

-Reviving tis old thread, as I am consdiering an 80/1.9

I am surprised by Gasrocks' statement, as I currently have the 80/2.8 and LOVE the bokeh it gives. It only has six blades, but they are very curved. The lens also gives a very high degree of "3D" effect, so maybe that's part of why the bokeh is pleasant. (I'm also crazy about the color)

QUESTION: Forgetting the newer "D" lenses, there seems to be a "C" and an "N" version of the 80/1.9 - is this so, and does anyone know the difference?

Aug 06, 2009 at 11:17 AM

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p.1 #11 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

I have no personal experience with the 80/1.9, but you might want to check this thread
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/797038
for opinions, also on the 80/1.9.

Aug 06, 2009 at 11:50 AM

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p.1 #12 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

C and N denotes barrel and coating changes. The N's have lighter barrels with plastic aperture rings and better coatings (Reduced flare, higher contrast)

I like the 1.9 myself (I own it and the 2.8 both in C versions). But the bokeh in some situations can get somewhat funky. It's usually very nice.

Aug 06, 2009 at 03:59 PM

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p.1 #13 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

There is also an S or interim version of some older lenses - older C metal-centric style body, but N style coatings. Love the 80/1.9 and agree with CA about Bokeh and color. Have yet to try an M645 lens I didn't like.

Aug 06, 2009 at 04:04 PM

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p.1 #14 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

M645 80mm f/1.9, (C) version. Wide open on a Canon EOS 40D, with a bunch of tilt. I think it held my focus well - this is ISO 800 and it was dark out there. I used live view for this, and truthfully, focus placement wasn't critical.

Got the lens from a pawn shop for $125. The Mirex...ugh...not easy nor cheap to get.

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Aug 06, 2009 at 05:50 PM

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p.1 #15 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

Conner999 wrote:
There is also an S or interim version of some older lenses - older C metal-centric style body, but N style coatings. Love the 80/1.9 and agree with CA about Bokeh and color. Have yet to try an M645 lens I didn't like.

The S versions have C coatings but updated optical designs. The only common S lens is the 45/2.8.

Aug 06, 2009 at 05:53 PM

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p.1 #16 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

Interesting - always had understanding the S were N coatings. So while there may be S and N variants of a lens (e.g. 55/2.8), the only FL with all three - C, S, N is the 45.. Interesting.

Aug 06, 2009 at 06:06 PM

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Conner999 wrote:
Interesting - always had understanding the S were N coatings. So while there may be S and N variants of a lens (e.g. 55/2.8), the only FL with all three - C, S, N is the 45.. Interesting.

The 55 has C and N variants (confusingly there is an L/S 55, which isn't an S but is actually a C with a leaf shutter).

From what I understand there is an S version of the 35 as well, with a mild recompute but the same optical layout. It's supposedly quite rare.

Aug 06, 2009 at 06:47 PM

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p.1 #18 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

I knew of the LS series, but didn't realize the 35mm S was a rarity.

Aug 06, 2009 at 06:56 PM

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p.1 #19 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

mawz wrote:
The 55 has C and N variants (confusingly there is an L/S 55, which isn't an S but is actually a C with a leaf shutter). .

Now that's odd. In another thread, someone wrote that the 80mm Leaf Shutter lens was sharper than even the "N," which made me assume the Leaf was made later than the N.
Could what you are saying here be true of ONLY the 55mm?

Aug 06, 2009 at 10:44 PM

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p.1 #20 · Mamiya 80mm 645 options

Another question:

I see some 645 lenses that say BOTH "C" and "N" for example:

" Mamiya-Sekor C 80mm f:2.8 N "

So is this a C or an N

Aug 06, 2009 at 11:09 PM

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