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p.1 #1 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

Occasionally, I notice that people here are sometimes very critical about some pictures OR deliberately motivating others to continue bad habits (by not pointing out the obvious issues in the pictures). I wonder where the majority of the user base falls here, you can stay anonymous.

As for me, I am usually honest...if I see overblown highlights or missed focus...hey, I won't say " awesome pictures". That just gives the wrong impression to the poster and he might not learn something he could have, otherwise.

Oct 08, 2008 at 05:11 AM

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p.1 #2 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

Honesty, genuineness, and appreciation. They're all valuable.

The photos in the presentation boards tend to be better as a whole than those posted on the gear boards. Speaking of which, what is this thread doing on this board?

Oct 08, 2008 at 05:14 AM

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p.1 #3 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

It's easier to be honest and critical over an internet forum. As long as the criticism is made politely then I don't see any issues. In real life though (especially when dealing with friends), it's much more difficult to be harsh...

Oct 08, 2008 at 05:16 AM

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p.1 #4 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

Usually honest.

Oct 08, 2008 at 05:45 AM

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p.1 #5 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

I didn't vote because this is a gear forum for me so I very rarely say anything about the images posted (that and most the images in this forum only rarely have anything that interests me), but on my photo boards etc. that I am sometimes active I am very honest... but if someone obviously doesn't have a clue I just ignore their post and hope they pick up pointers within the comments of better photogs works.

Oct 08, 2008 at 05:55 AM

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p.1 #6 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

I have been around here for about 5 years and use to post regularly on the N&W forum but I quit about a year ago. I saw too much praise where praise wasn't deserved and when I tried to give constructive criticisms the person would usually be offended or defensive. Because after all he or she had been getting praise from everyone else.

They are some great photographers on the N&W forum as well as many on other forums. I chose to keep my opinions to myself when it comes to someones photographic ability. I will however respond to an example on the Gear Forum that doesn't support an OP's assertation. Most discussions on the Gear forums are quantitative and based in demonstrative examples to promote a premise.

Jim

Oct 08, 2008 at 05:58 AM

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p.1 #7 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

Ok, I'm going to be honest here. How about posting in the Forum-Misc. board? Unless of course you're talking about pics taken w/canon gear.
Ken

Oct 08, 2008 at 06:03 AM

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p.1 #8 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

ken ,sorry. Yes, I did mean pics taken with canon gear.

Oct 08, 2008 at 06:13 AM

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p.1 #9 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

LCollector wrote:
ken ,sorry. Yes, I did mean pics taken with canon gear.

ok, are you "honestly" sorry or just being agreeable so as to not hurt feelings or to avoid a confrontation?

Oct 08, 2008 at 06:31 AM

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p.1 #10 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

wing tong wrote:
LCollector wrote:
ken ,sorry. Yes, I did mean pics taken with canon gear.

ok, are you "honestly" sorry or just being agreeable so as to not hurt feelings or to avoid a confrontation?

"Criticism, like rain, should be gentle enough to nourish a person’s growth without destroying their roots."--Frank Clark <-- (a politician)

When critiquing someone's work I believe it's important to consider their experience as well as the level of gear that they're using. No need to destroy someone's confidence over one lousy picture. If you see 10 mistakes with the picture, point out 3 mistakes, give out 5 compliments and move on.

Now if they plan on getting paid for their work then you should be as brutal as needed so they don't screw customers over.

Oct 08, 2008 at 08:40 AM

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p.1 #11 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

I try to always be honest in expressing my opinions, but I don't always express my opinion. Sometimes it's better to "pass", and just say nothing at all.

Oct 08, 2008 at 09:32 AM

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p.1 #12 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

When I choose to comment or not is always a surprise to me - can't identify just what the trigger is...

There are many posts I do not comment on - some good, some, well...

When I do comment, I am honest - and speak my mind - though without edges. Some blow me away, and I'll say so.

Oct 08, 2008 at 11:04 AM

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p.1 #13 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

Two answers - I ignore most - as they have not moved me to comment - but if I do comment I am always honest if passing an opinion and I hope helpful where I make suggestions.

Some posts are so good that I will post very brief compliments even though they are not helpful - simply because the image deserves a response.

I can't post a response to every image I view or my 12,000+ post count would have another 1 in front of it

Oct 08, 2008 at 11:08 AM

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p.1 #14 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

I'm always honest with my comments. If there's something I don't like about an image I'll mention it along with the reason why I don't like it, though I usually try to be tactful as to avoid offending the poster.

Personally, I'd prefer no comments in my image thread rather than getting fake "it's nice" comments.

Oct 08, 2008 at 11:17 AM

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p.1 #15 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

I only give honest answers to Mamiya, Linhof and Nikon users, so I'll pass on this poll.

EBH

Oct 08, 2008 at 11:28 AM

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p.1 #16 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

I am an amatuer. Far be it from me to critique what is usually very far above my level of work. I am just tryin to take better pics of my kids. If there is a picture posted that I see glaring issues with 99% of the time it has already been pointed out multiple times.

Oct 08, 2008 at 11:32 AM

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p.1 #17 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

Jim Victory wrote:
I have been around here for about 5 years and use to post regularly on the N&W forum but I quit about a year ago. I saw too much praise where praise wasn't deserved and when I tried to give constructive criticisms the person would usually be offended or defensive. Because after all he or she had been getting praise from everyone else.

They are some great photographers on the N&W forum as well as many on other forums. I chose to keep my opinions to myself when it comes to someones photographic ability. I will however respond to an example on the Gear Forum that doesn't support an OP's assertation. Most discussions on the Gear forums are quantitative and based in demonstrative examples to promote a premise.

Jim

Jim, you are not alone. Most of the Nature and Wildlife 'former regulars' I know have stopped posting there due to just that phenomenon.

Oct 08, 2008 at 12:44 PM

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p.1 #18 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

I always tell them what I think, if I dont like it, Im not going to sugar coat it. I will give my advice on what could be done better and tell them to keep their head up and keep trying.

Oct 08, 2008 at 01:04 PM

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p.1 #19 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

LCollector wrote:
ken ,sorry. Yes, I did mean pics taken with canon gear.

Talk about being honest. No you are not.

Oct 08, 2008 at 01:10 PM

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p.1 #20 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

My photographic experience is still very limited and as such I'm infrequently in a position to comment on others work. When i do so, i am honest. And i would like the same in return. Hollow praise is worse than harsh criticism because no-one benefits.

Oct 08, 2008 at 01:11 PM

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p.1 #21 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

I usually pass over the threads with photos I dont think are very good. Commenting on those threads has a tendency of making you look overly condescending - even if you are being "honest".

Oct 08, 2008 at 01:12 PM

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p.1 #22 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

These days I generally pass (didn't used to but kept getting into trouble with the mods

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When someone asks for comments and critique they generally mean 'tell me how good this is' and get very defensive when you criticise and tell them what you really think

David

Oct 08, 2008 at 01:25 PM

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p.1 #23 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

I give honest criticism. If it's a new photographer, I try to be as constructive as I can, since it's not about bashing someone's photo, it's about helping them get better.

I know I don't want all roses when I post a photo. If it's good...please tell me it's good. If it's not, tell me what I can do to improve it, or what I should have done to make it a stronger photo. It helps us all grow as photographers. Sometimes I disagree with the criticisms, but I still want to hear them.

Oct 08, 2008 at 01:31 PM

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p.1 #24 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

The bottom line is that even if you are experienced enough to help someone with honest criticism it is usually of little help here. Informed comments seem to conflict with casual photographers who want to put their "two cents" in. I find that overall constructive criticism here is mostly based on majority rules, or a poll of transparent likes and dislikes.

Oct 08, 2008 at 02:36 PM

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p.1 #25 · Do you guys give sincere opinions about pics ?

mh2000 wrote:
I didn't vote because this is a gear forum for me so I very rarely say anything about the images posted (that and most the images in this forum only rarely have anything that interests me), but on my photo boards etc. that I am sometimes active I am very honest... but if someone obviously doesn't have a clue I just ignore their post and hope they pick up pointers within the comments of better photogs works.

+1 ... Exactly!

Omar

Oct 08, 2008 at 02:40 PM


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