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p.1 #1 · 28-70 vs 24-70


What was the reason for the 24-70? was it because of the 4mm gap between the 14-24 and it?

The 28-70 is af-s so other than 4mm what do you gain?

Is the 24-70 sharper and is it worth the loss of an aperture ring?







Oct 05, 2008 at 10:30 PM
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p.1 #2 · 28-70 vs 24-70


90 5.0 wrote:
What was the reason for the 24-70? was it because of the 4mm gap between the 14-24 and it?

The 28-70 is af-s so other than 4mm what do you gain?

Is the 24-70 sharper and is it worth the loss of an aperture ring?








sharper, smaller, lighter.... aperture ring? depends on if you shoot with a body which doesn't support g type lenses... and if you do.... how important would it be to use 24-70 on that body...

Oct 05, 2008 at 10:38 PM
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p.1 #3 · 28-70 vs 24-70


Yes, i don't like spending alot of money on a lens i can only use on 2 of my cams. But it's more of an it bothers me deal than a necessity. I can only shoot ir flim on my older bodies, my n75 has the ir film reader and would ko ir film, also with extension tubes with no contacts ect. But that is only about 1/2% of the shooting i do noways anyway.

I wasn't aware that the 24 was smaller and lighter that might make it worth it if it is noticeably sharper. It was more of a curiosity thing anyway...

Oct 05, 2008 at 10:47 PM
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p.1 #4 · 28-70 vs 24-70


Both are great lenses. The 28-70 is larger in diameter, an issue with some. The 24 -70 was released as a replacement - filling in the gap going down to 24. Losing manual aperture control saves some money in manufacture.

The current high end Pro lens lineup is 14-24, 24-70, 70-200 - all f/2.8 meshing nicely into the f/4 200-400.

If you've already got a 28-70 most will say there's no compelling reason to trade for a 24-70. Debated the choice and bought the 24-70. For the proice I'd rather have new - with full warranty.

Oct 05, 2008 at 11:19 PM
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p.1 #5 · 28-70 vs 24-70


I have to say that I have used both and don't see too much difference..

I am sticking with my softer/bigger/heavier lens until something happens to it... and I do like it on my F100.

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Oct 05, 2008 at 11:21 PM
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p.1 #6 · 28-70 vs 24-70


The new 24-70 is supposedly one of the most uniform, sharpest, best behaved zooms in existence. Check out the full frame (D700) test here, very very impressive performance:

http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1121/cat/13

The new lens was probably designed with an eye toward much higher pixel density DSLRS of the future.

Oct 06, 2008 at 12:12 AM
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p.1 #7 · 28-70 vs 24-70


robson wrote: sharper, smaller, lighter...
Actually no on 2...possibly all 3 points.
The 24-70 is 30g HEAVIER than the 28-70, they're roughly the SAME size and I seriously
doubt it's any sharper. The skin tones the 28-70 produces are unrivaled. YMMV but I see
no compelling reason to "upgrade" to the more expensive 24-70 for the nano hype
and closer MFD. 28's wide enough for me on my D3 with no vignette/CA issues. I'll stay pat
'til the beast is tamed.

Oct 06, 2008 at 12:34 AM
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p.1 #8 · 28-70 vs 24-70


Jammy Straub wrote:
The new 24-70 is supposedly one of the most uniform, sharpest, best behaved zooms in existence. Check out the full frame (D700) test here, very very impressive performance:

http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1121/cat/13

The new lens was probably designed with an eye toward much higher pixel density DSLRS of the future.


Well, the 28-70mm was designed for full frame (film) SLR's .



Oct 06, 2008 at 12:34 AM
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p.1 #9 · 28-70 vs 24-70


Taylor Barrett wrote:
Jammy Straub wrote:
The new 24-70 is supposedly one of the most uniform, sharpest, best behaved zooms in existence. Check out the full frame (D700) test here, very very impressive performance:

http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1121/cat/13

The new lens was probably designed with an eye toward much higher pixel density DSLRS of the future.


Well, the 28-70mm was designed for full frame (film) SLR's .




Yes which also made me curious if anyone has heard of it being sharper on the ff cams like the 80-200 is supposed to be sharper on the ff's than the 70-200vr??.

Not that it matters, I just had to buy a new bedroom suit for my house today and i got a new plasma to go with it so my lens cash stash i had been building up just got wiped out





Oct 06, 2008 at 12:47 AM
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p.1 #10 · 28-70 vs 24-70


btw, anyone have CA issues? mine seems to have some on the right side of the frame...but curiously, none on the left.

Oct 06, 2008 at 05:15 AM
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p.1 #11 · 28-70 vs 24-70


loudtiger wrote:
btw, anyone have CA issues? mine seems to have some on the right side of the frame...but curiously, none on the left.


If things aren't even on the right and left, you've got a lens element that's out of alignment. They can fix that for you. I had a 70-200 that was like that.

Oct 06, 2008 at 05:28 AM
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p.1 #12 · 28-70 vs 24-70


1. Canon makes a 24-70
2. 4mm on the wide end is a lot.

Oct 06, 2008 at 11:06 AM
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p.1 #13 · 28-70 vs 24-70


4mm on the wide end is worth the extra $ to me. Also, in terms of future repairs, the 24-70 is more current so parts will likely be available longer.

Oct 06, 2008 at 01:37 PM
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p.1 #14 · 28-70 vs 24-70


The extra 4 is quite a bit when your back is already against a wall. You can manage with a 28, but the 24 is great.

Other than that, the 28-70 is not nearly the lens that the 24-70 is IMO. Faster AF, more accurate, much cleaner across the frame and sharper overall. Smaller is a bonus too.

Oct 06, 2008 at 02:40 PM
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p.1 #15 · 28-70 vs 24-70


While not the Nikkor 28-70, I shoot with a Tamron 28-75 and my Nikkor 24-70 and man, that 4mm is huge. It actually feels wide on the D700, where the 28mm never really does, but the lens is twice the weight and almost twice the length of the Tamron, so both remain in the cabinet. Also, I can't imagine a sharper lens than my 24-70. I did have it calibrated by Nikon a few weeks ago, but it is just world beater sharp. It is the sharpest 2.8 zoom that I've ever used and I have used a LOT of lenses. It's even sharper than many faster primes. Amazing, amazing lens. Oh and yeah, it was only very good before Nikon got their hands on it. Now it's bloodly unbelievable. So good, that I can't get myself to sell it as was my original plan...

-Tom

Oct 06, 2008 at 02:51 PM
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p.1 #16 · 28-70 vs 24-70


I'm not familiar ith the 28-70, but the 24-70 suffers from significant field curvature. Something to add in the equation.

Oct 06, 2008 at 02:56 PM
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p.1 #17 · 28-70 vs 24-70


Based on Bjorn R's results, the 24-70 is superior to the 28-70 for distortion. Here is a link to his zoom reviews:

http://www.naturfotograf.com/lens_zoom_00.html

Oct 06, 2008 at 04:13 PM
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p.1 #18 · 28-70 vs 24-70


guess i'll send mine over to nikon... second lens i've sent to them this year.

not saying a lot for quality

Oct 06, 2008 at 04:50 PM
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p.1 #19 · 28-70 vs 24-70


Andre Labonte wrote:
4mm on the wide end is worth the extra $ to me. Also, in terms of future repairs, the 24-70 is more current so parts will likely be available longer.


Its not if you have a 14-24

Oct 06, 2008 at 05:44 PM
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p.1 #20 · 28-70 vs 24-70


The 24-70 is Nikon's newest, latest design and fabrication effort. I believe it to be better than Canon's 24-70. For a wonderful all-purpose, oft used lens with Prime IQ I think it is well worth the money.

Oct 12, 2008 at 07:13 PM
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p.1 #21 · 28-70 vs 24-70


rjk55425 wrote:
Andre Labonte wrote:
4mm on the wide end is worth the extra $ to me. Also, in terms of future repairs, the 24-70 is more current so parts will likely be available longer.


Its not if you have a 14-24



this is true. However, I buy a lens for a paticular purpose and don't worry about over-lap or gaps. To me a 24-70 is a mid-range or street zoom used for just about everything under the sun. When I'm using such a lens, I'm often in a situation where switching lenses is not an option.

A 14-24 is a landscape / story-telling lens for me. I only want to switch to it when I absolutely need to, not as a matter of course.

Of course all this is mute, as I am a DX shoot and don't care to have either of these lenses on that format.

Oct 12, 2008 at 07:43 PM
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p.1 #22 · 28-70 vs 24-70


I am a recent convert to Nikon and use a D700. Over the years, I have I run a standard series of tests with all my lenses, shooting wide open and one stop down at the wide and telephoto ends of the lens. I have seen something with the 28-70 that I have never seen before in any other lens tested and not sure if its a major concern since its most visible when viewing at 100%. The lens is sharp enough wide open at both ends but when I photograph small print, the color of the font is not right at f2.8, kind of purple, at high contrast edges.

Everything looks as I would expect at 28mm, here are 2 shots at f2.8 and f4.0:


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But the results are very different at 70mm, these 2 shots are also at f2.8 and 4.0. You don't see this problem as dramatically in the larger text above the small print put there is a faint purple edge around the text. It does improve when stopping down but is definitely visible in shots at 2.8:


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Now in this series of shots, you can see the purple fringing around the Nikon letters but it disappears at f4:


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And when I shoot larger text, its less noticeable (again f2.8, then f4):


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I was hoping this issue would be less noticeable with real world shots but it is visible at 100% viewing, this is f2.8 at 70mm:



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Oct 19, 2008 at 02:14 PM
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p.1 #23 · 28-70 vs 24-70


I have the 28-70 f/2.8, and its a great lens. For the price, it was an awesome deal! And the 4mm difference does not bother me.


Oct 19, 2008 at 06:03 PM
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p.1 #24 · 28-70 vs 24-70


I have had both. Flare was horrible with the 28-70mm, but the 24-70mm copy I have does not suffer from flare at all. The 24-70mm feels more balanced/streamlined than the 28-70mm, but optically both are the best there is. I needed the extra 4mm till I got the D700, now its an added extra. I will be looking for a used 28-70mm RSN to go on the D700 while the 24-70mm goes back on the D2X and later the D3X.

Oct 19, 2008 at 10:26 PM
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p.1 #25 · 28-70 vs 24-70


Grognard wrote:
I have had both. Flare was horrible with the 28-70mm, but the 24-70mm copy I have does not suffer from flare at all. The 24-70mm feels more balanced/streamlined than the 28-70mm, but optically both are the best there is. I needed the extra 4mm till I got the D700, now its an added extra. I will be looking for a used 28-70mm RSN to go on the D700 while the 24-70mm goes back on the D2X and later the D3X.


This is interesting. I too, have a 28-70 which has unwelcome flare. I had to reshoot a job because of it. When the 24-70 first came out, I asked for input about flare comparisons and all that responded said that there was little difference. I guess I'll have to rent a 24-70 and do some side by side flare tests.

Oct 19, 2008 at 11:07 PM

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