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p.1 #1 · Canon interview on dpreview

Among other things:

DPReview: "One of the most common complaints we've seen about the 5D Mark II is that it still has the same AF system as the original 5D. Why is this?"

"Firstly the market's evaluation of the 5D's AF system has been very positive; there have been no complaints from users, with everyone saying it's very good. Given that, to a certain extent, we think we shouldn't change it. And also there's some limitation with size; the AF sensor in the 50D is very big; the one in the 5D is much smaller. If we wanted to have all cross-sensors in the 5D Mark II, it would mean we might have to sacrifice the compactness of the body. It's all a question of balance of features and benefits."

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0810/08100302_canoninterview.asp

"Executive summary" of interview
Summary written by Pixel Perfect five posts below and added to my original post above via an edit (because I thought PP's summary was very well done!):

*no heat problems with extended live view/video usage for subsequent still shots.
* APS-C and EF-S to be around a long time,
* No FF in the 50D segment for a long time,
* 60D to have video,
* possibility of a hybrid AF as used in video cameras as Canon aren't happy with live view AF performance currently.
* Exciting new developments for next year

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Oct 03, 2008 at 11:34 AM

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p.1 #2 · Canon interview on dpreview

Isn't the 5DmkII very close to the same size as the orignal 5D. Never thought I'd hear 5D and compactness in the same sentence!

Oct 03, 2008 at 11:39 AM

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p.1 #3 · Canon interview on dpreview

RalphJ wrote:
the AF sensor in the 50D is very big; the one in the 5D is much smaller.

Isn't the 5D's AF suposed to be the exact same as the 20D/30D, with the exception of the adition of 6 AF assist points around the center AF sensor?

Oct 03, 2008 at 11:41 AM

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p.1 #4 · Canon interview on dpreview

There have been no complaints from users? No one listening to the people saying that there is a single useable AF point, albeit a good one?

Not sure I follow his logic either. If there is a bigger AF sensor in a smaller body (50D) then to put it in a larger body would mean making the larger body bigger?

It's BS anyway, the AF sensor is exactly the same size which is why the points are nearer the edges on the crop camera.

So utterly lame. Makes sense that this guy is the head of the SLR division. Doesn't have a clue. Kinda puts the entire canon lineup, from the 50D through to the 5D mkII and the mkIII's into perspective.

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p.1 #5 · Canon interview on dpreview

Executive summary

*no heat problems with extended live view/video usage for subsequent still shots.
* APS-C and EF-S to be around a long time,
* No FF in the 50D segment for a long time,
* 60D to have video,
* possibility of a hybrid AF as used in video cameras as Canon aren't happy with live view AF performance currently.
* Exciting new developments for next year

Oct 03, 2008 at 11:44 AM

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p.1 #6 · Canon interview on dpreview

"The EOS 1Ds Mark III, by comparison, offers robust durability and long shutter life as the most important features for use in harsh studio conditions, we believe."

Harsh studio conditions. Right.

So desperate that each camera can't be used outside the niche they designate it for that they can't even talk normally about it.

Oct 03, 2008 at 11:49 AM

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p.1 #7 · Canon interview on dpreview

The comment about the AF is hilarious. I would rather have a bulky box of a body if it meant the AF being the same as the 1Ds Mark III, too.

First it was because there were no complaints about the AF in the 5D and now its this. Heh.

Oct 03, 2008 at 01:00 PM

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p.1 #8 · Canon interview on dpreview

hahaha no complaints, this just goes to show Canon does not listen to their customers.

Oct 03, 2008 at 01:05 PM

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Pixel Perfect wrote:
* No FF in the 50D segment for a long time,

This is the single most disappointing thing from the interview :-(

Oct 03, 2008 at 01:07 PM

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p.1 #10 · Canon interview on dpreview

Because it's main customer base is women. The guy's just incredible.

Oct 03, 2008 at 01:18 PM

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p.1 #11 · Canon interview on dpreview

The part about the dynamic range and ISO expansion being better on the 5D2 than the 1Ds3 made me smile! So basically, at current UK prices, you are paying an extra £2,300 over the cost of the 5D2 for the 1Ds3 which offers a slightly longer shutter life, probably a better battery and 19 Point AF.

Given the 5D Mark 2 and the Nikon D3, I am beginning to see an upgrade to both the 1D3 and 1Ds3 next year!

Oct 03, 2008 at 01:20 PM

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Allan Bruce wrote:
Pixel Perfect wrote:
* No FF in the 50D segment for a long time,

This is the single most disappointing thing from the interview :-(

You're assuming they are telling the truth. Frankly, I would not be surprised if they are playing cards close to the vest for strategic reasons. Who would lay out all their trade secrets/ideas to some website interviewer? It would just cut sales of existing product to discuss future changes that would obsolete said product.

Oct 03, 2008 at 01:21 PM

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p.1 #13 · Canon interview on dpreview

Makes me wonder how Nikon managed to stuff their 51 pt AF sensor into their D700 body.

Oct 03, 2008 at 01:34 PM

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p.1 #14 · Canon interview on dpreview

I felt that I was reading an interview with a politician, very evasive. But hey, they make the best $2700 camera in the world ( I hope )

Oct 03, 2008 at 01:57 PM

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p.1 #15 · Canon interview on dpreview

RalphJ wrote:
Among other things:

DPReview: "One of the most common complaints we've seen about the 5D Mark II is that it still has the same AF system as the original 5D. Why is this?"

"Firstly the market's evaluation of the 5D's AF system has been very positive; there have been no complaints from users, with everyone saying it's very good. Given that, to a certain extent, we think we shouldn't change it. And also there's some limitation with size; the AF sensor in the 50D is very big; the one in the 5D is much smaller. If we wanted to have all cross-sensors in the 5D Mark II, it would mean we might have to sacrifice the compactness of the body. It's all a question of balance of features and benefits."

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0810/08100302_canoninterview.asp

Nobody complained about the AF In the 5D?

If what was said about the AF Making the 5D2 Bigger, Why can Nikon manage to "squeeze" 51 AF Points into the D700??

Oct 03, 2008 at 02:00 PM

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p.1 #16 · Canon interview on dpreview

This quote is a what what what.

market's evaluation of the 5D's AF system has been very positive; there have been no complaints from users, with everyone saying it's very good...

The are NO users, it has been released yet.

CMOS sensors in P&S's, why didn't they ask why it's not going to be a North American camer? Canon's biggest market.

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p.1 #17 · Canon interview on dpreview

Well, I was aware Canon corporate was out of touch with the rest of the world; now it's pretty obvious they've been taking lessons in lying from the U.S. political machine.

<sigh>

Oct 03, 2008 at 02:08 PM

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monochrome wrote:
This quote is a what what what.

market's evaluation of the 5D's AF system has been very positive; there have been no complaints from users, with everyone saying it's very good...

The are NO users, it has been released yet.

The AF In the original 5D, Not the 5D Mk II.

Oct 03, 2008 at 02:09 PM

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p.1 #19 · Canon interview on dpreview

Thanks, I read that backwards and STILL missed it. Too early in the morning for me.

Oct 03, 2008 at 02:14 PM

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p.1 #20 · Canon interview on dpreview

Anybody find an Interview with Nikon? I see the others buy not Nikon.

Oct 03, 2008 at 02:15 PM

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p.1 #21 · Canon interview on dpreview

Depressing. Either Canon doesn't get what is wrong with its line-up, or it just doesn't care.

Oct 03, 2008 at 02:18 PM

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p.1 #22 · Canon interview on dpreview

Beni wrote:
There have been no complaints from users? No one listening to the people saying that there is a single useable AF point, albeit a good one?

Not sure I follow his logic either. If there is a bigger AF sensor in a smaller body (50D) then to put it in a larger body would mean making the larger body bigger?

It's BS anyway, the AF sensor is exactly the same size which is why the points are nearer the edges on the crop camera.

So utterly lame. Makes sense that this guy is the head of the SLR division. Doesn't have a clue. Kinda puts the entire canon lineup, from the 50D through to the 5D mkII and the mkIII's into perspective.

+ infinity

Oct 03, 2008 at 02:22 PM

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bluetsunami wrote:
The comment about the AF is hilarious. I would rather have a bulky box of a body if it meant the AF being the same as the 1Ds Mark III, too.

First it was because there were no complaints about the AF in the 5D and now its this. Heh.

Umm, yeah..they make that camera. It's called the 1Ds Mark III

Oct 03, 2008 at 02:27 PM

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p.1 #24 · Canon interview on dpreview

You don't really expect an executive to admit that they are crippling their 5D series to protect their flagship pro cameras do you? It's obvious Canon has even better FF sensor technology (50D type gapless pixels) and processors (2/4 Digic IVs) ready for their Mk IVs.

But they are going to wait for Nikon (and others) to take their, next, best shot. They want to sell as many of their Mk IIIs as they can before obsoleting them with a new series that will most certainly devastate (FF 30+ Mp, 6400 ISO and maybe cinema level video) the competition

Oct 03, 2008 at 02:28 PM

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SoundHound wrote:
You don't really expect an executive to admit that they are crippling their 5D series to protect their flagship pro cameras do you? It's obvious Canon has even better FF sensor technology (50D type gapless pixels) and processors (2/4 Digic IVs) ready for their Mk IVs.

But they are going to wait for Nikon (and others) to take their, next, best shot. They want to sell as many of their Mk IIIs as they can before obsoleting them with a new series that will most certainly devastate (FF 30+ Mp, 6400 ISO and maybe cinema level video) the competition

Oh good lord. Are we seriously about to embark on new speculation?

Oct 03, 2008 at 02:37 PM


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