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Archive 2008 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)

  
 
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p.1 #1 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


They had two on display at the Tech Expo at Photoshop World.

Not the best samples, since im no pixel peeper

My impressions:

100-3200 is very good. 3200 is more than usable in my eyes. It has about 1.5 stops difference in noise when compared to the 40d. However, 6400 is "ok" and 12800 is questionable. I took some of each for you guys to check out. AF seems the same as it was with the 40d, sad to say. The camera did feel a bit more solid than my 40d. I would def say the 50d is a little more weather resistant, there is alot more room in teh seams of the body on my 40d then the 50d.

I uploaded all of them SOOC on my flickr, and will also do some 100% crops and some noiseware on some to show what can be done.

flickr url:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/38283834@N00/sets/72157607133799691/

here are 100% crop of 6400 and 3200

6400
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3170/2831138583_f770893aaa_o.jpg


3200
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/2831138599_d019b74d97_o.jpg

Edited on Sep 05, 2008 at 06:50 PM



Sep 05, 2008 at 06:50 PM
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p.1 #2 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


The ISO1600 shots are awesome, the ISO3200 shots look very usable, but wouldn't go further than that. The ISO6400 shot you took look like they were exposed to the right and had serious banding and color noise issues. This may be some new fancy sensor, but it still doesn't compare to my Mark III at high ISO. hmm...

What noise reduction level were you using?

Did you do any work with the shots in post to see how well they hold up to additional NR.



Edited by jscoby05 on Sep 06, 2008 at 12:08 AM GMT

Edited on Sep 05, 2008 at 07:08 PM



Sep 05, 2008 at 07:05 PM
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p.1 #3 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


Thanks for the samples! I would say the ISO 3200 crop has about the same amount of noise as a ISO 1600 shot from my 40D. Really amazing considering the 50D got 50% more pixels.


Sep 05, 2008 at 07:05 PM
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p.1 #4 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


jscoby05 wrote:
The ISO1600 shots are awesome, the ISO3200 shots look very usable, but wouldn't go further than that. The ISO6400 shot you took look like they were exposed to the right and had serious banding and color noise issues. This may be some new fancy sensor, but it still doesn't compare to my Mark III at high ISO. hmm...

What noise reduction level were you using?

Did you do any work with the shots in post to see how well they hold up to additional NR.



Edited by jscoby05 on Sep 06, 2008 at 12:08 AM GMT



here are some works i did...
SOOC @ 6400
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3025/2831109375_9c0a4c64d6_b.jpg

with some noiseware
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2831988268_8c2eb70d6a_b.jpg

SOOC @ 12800
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3001/2831945800_ba89ed1209_b.jpg

Heavy noiseware @ 12800 (note the serious banding)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3027/2831154217_fddc4edfcd_b.jpg

NOISE REDUCTION SET AT 0 in cam..... i wanted to see what it would really be like. I didnt have time to play with NR settings. since i was kinda bootlegging the 50d, they didnt want people to use their own cards. but i did it anyway


Edited by turbodude on Sep 05, 2008 at 07:14 PM GMT

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Sep 05, 2008 at 07:10 PM
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p.1 #5 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


Thanks for posting! Is that a pre-production model you played with?



Sep 05, 2008 at 07:13 PM
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p.1 #6 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


yes preproduction they stressed that


Sep 05, 2008 at 07:14 PM
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p.1 #7 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


Thanks for posting. BTW, your model is scary!

1600 looks great and 6400 is usable. Not too bad at all.

jerry



Sep 05, 2008 at 07:16 PM
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p.1 #8 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


Welcome to banding city
I hope this gets improved on the final/production cameras.



Sep 05, 2008 at 07:16 PM
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p.1 #9 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


im sure it will, but knowing 3200 is liek 1600 of my 40d, im happy,


Sep 05, 2008 at 07:20 PM
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p.1 #10 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


Would have been great if you could have tried the onboard NR, since they are pushing that as being quite effective. That said, any samples are great.


Sep 05, 2008 at 08:53 PM
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p.1 #11 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


ill try it tomorrow, and try all teh steps. and post teh results if i can get away with sneaking my CF card in it again


Sep 05, 2008 at 08:59 PM
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p.1 #12 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


jscoby05 wrote:
This may be some new fancy sensor, but it still doesn't compare to my Mark III at high ISO. hmm...


So what? It costs $2,750 less than your Mk3.



Sep 05, 2008 at 09:10 PM
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p.1 #13 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


Imagemaster wrote:
So what? It costs $2,750 less than your Mk3.



lets not get into anything here, its just to show people that the dpr examples were not entirely a representation of what this camera can do. 50d and mkiii should not be compared in any way shape or form. Lets keep the discussion on the 50d.



Sep 05, 2008 at 09:13 PM
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p.1 #14 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


no-one is saying much about the flourine on the sensor..this to me is as important as high ISOs if it can do the job to keep dust off thats a +

Edited on Sep 05, 2008 at 09:28 PM



Sep 05, 2008 at 09:28 PM
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p.1 #15 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


i fixed my flickr, everyone should be able to see the full size images now


Sep 05, 2008 at 09:32 PM
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p.1 #16 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


Ugh, at the banding at 6400...

3200 looks to be the max one should go (as already stated), I like how nice the IQ is at that level.

Edited on Sep 05, 2008 at 09:38 PM



Sep 05, 2008 at 09:34 PM
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p.1 #17 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


nice post, thx for the pics !!! ISO 6400 is so usable in certain cases,damn 1/400 at f/4. I wonder what I will get with a 50 1.4 at the same ISO....yummy !


Sep 05, 2008 at 10:07 PM
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p.1 #18 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


if you get a chance try some shooting in sRAW 1 (the one that is 7.4mpix) and see if the pixel binning makes a difference


Sep 05, 2008 at 10:20 PM
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p.1 #19 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


ISO1600 looking pretty promising and even 3200 not terrible now, indoor lighting is usually tough, although fluorescent is easier than tungsten.
it just might be 1 stop better than a 40D. Still hard to say, but at least has promise.

iso12,800 a fake, useless joke as expected. Too bad nikon pushes such ridiculousness.


Edited by skibum5 on Sep 05, 2008 at 11:30 PM GMT

Edited on Sep 05, 2008 at 11:30 PM



Sep 05, 2008 at 10:20 PM
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p.1 #20 · I got to play with a 50d today.... i got samples for you guys!!! :)


yeah i would try it at sraw, but nothing can convert it. i have all the raw files from today, just no way to convert them


Sep 05, 2008 at 10:36 PM
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