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watkinssr wrote:
jimo1015 wrote:
What I have seen the ACLU doing is defending murderers, rapist, people that want to burn the flag , etc. I can't understand how they are so concerned about people that have caused havoc in other peoples lives and should be punished severely.
They just don't seem to have any connection to the average law abiding citizen but seem more concerned about the rights of people that have destroyed other people
jim
they represent anyone and everyone who have had their rights violated. Yes, one of those rights is to burn the flag, even though I personally find flag burning offensive they don't pick and choose who's rights they defend, nor should they. If you don't fight oppression out there on the fringes, you wind up fighting it in your back yard.
. Some times those people are despicable but often they aren't. Here is a list of religious organizations, many right wing, that they have gone to bat for: I compiled this list because I kept hearing they were anti-Christian.
The ACLU of New Jersey (2006) filed a friend-of-the-court brief asking a federal court to uphold an elementary school student's right to sing "Awesome God" in a voluntary, after-school talent show for which students selected their own material.
http://www.aclu.org/ religion/schools/25799prs20060605.html
* The ACLU of Louisiana (2006) filed a lawsuit defending the free speech rights of a Christian who was protesting based on his religious beliefs. The man was chased away from the front of a Wal-Mart store where he was carrying a sign that read: "Christians: Wal-Mart Supports Gay Marriage and Gay Lifestyles. Don't Shop There."
http://www.aclu.org/freespeech/prot...rs20061027.html
The ACLU of Rhode Island (2006) filed an appeal in federal court on behalf of an inmate who was barred from preaching during Christian religious services, as he had done for the past seven years under the supervision and support of prison clergy. The prisoner, Wesley Spratt, believes his preaching is a calling from God. Prison officials cited vague and unsubstantiated security reasons for imposing the preaching ban on Mr. Spratt. The ACLU argued that the ban violates the religious freedom guaranteed to Mr. Spratt under federal law.
www.riaclu.org/20060111.html
* The ACLU of Georgia (2006) filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of the Tabernacle Community Baptist Church charging that the city of East Point, Georgia violated a federal religious discrimination law when it denied the church a zoning permit needed to establish its house of worship.
http://www.aclu.org/religion/discri...rs20060419.html
* The ACLU and its affiliates (1999-2006) have been instrumental supporters of the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act (RLUIPA), which gives religious organizations added protections in erecting religious buildings and enhances the religious freedom rights of prisoners and other institutionalized persons. The ACLU worked with a broad coalition of organizations to secure the law's passage in 2000. After the law passed, the ACLU (2005) defended its constitutionality in a friend-of-the-court brief before the United States Supreme Court in a prisoner's religious freedom suit; and the ACLU of Virginia (2006) filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals defending the law against a constitutional challenge.
www.aclu.org/religion/frb/26018prs20060612.html
http://www.acluohio.org/issues/reli...erty/Cutter.htm
* The ACLU of Eastern Missouri (2006) filed a lawsuit on behalf of Shirley L. Phelps-Roper, a member of a controversial conservative Christian church, over a Missouri law that infringes on her rights to religious liberty and free speech. The lawsuit challenges Missouri laws banning protest or picketing "in front of or about" any location in which a funeral is being held or any funeral procession. The law was enacted to prevent members of Phelps-Roper's church from conducting their protests, which many find to be anti-gay and anti-American.
http://www.aclu.org/freespeech/prot...rs20060721.html
The ACLU of Pennsylvania (2005) (in conjunction with Americans United) won a federal court case on behalf of parents of public school children who objected to a school district's attempts to impose religious beliefs on their children. Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District. The court decided on Establishment Clause grounds that members of the school board had used the public schools to promote their particular religious belief under the name of "intelligent design." Although the case was decided on Establishment Clause grounds, several of the plaintiffs challenged the teaching of intelligent design in large part because it offended their deeply held Christian religious beliefs.
http://www.aclu.org/religion/intell...sign/index.html
The ACLU of Pennsylvania (2005) won a religious liberty battle against Turtle Creek Borough. The Borough had repeatedly denied an occupancy permit to a predominantly African-American church, Ekklesia, that had purchased a church building from a predominantly white parish. The case was settled.
www.aclupa.org/downloads/SpringDocket.PDF
The ACLU of Louisiana (2005) filed suit against the Department of Corrections on behalf of a Mormon inmate, Norman Sanders, who was denied access to religious texts, including The Book of Mormon, and Mormon religious services. "Mormons should receive the same accommodation of their beliefs as do individuals of other faiths," said Joe Cook, Executive Director, ACLU of Louisiana. "Fair and equal treatment means they deserve the right to a place to meet, have a minister and discuss their beliefs like other groups."
www.laaclu.org/SandersvCain
www.laaclu.org/News/2005/Aug26SandersvCain.htm
The ACLU of Michigan (2005) filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of Joseph Hanas, a Catholic, who was criminally punished for not completing a drug rehabilitation program run by a Pentecostal group. Part of the program required reading the Bible for seven hours a day, proclaiming one's salvation at the alter, and being tested on Pentecostal principles. Staff confiscated Mr. Hanas's rosary and told him Catholicism was witchcraft.
http://www.aclu.org/religion/govtfu...rs20051206.html
The ACLU of New Mexico (2005) joined forces with the American Family Association to succeed in freeing a preacher, Shawn Miller, from the Roosevelt County jail, where he was held for 109 days for street preaching. The ACLU became involved at the request of Miller's wife, Theresa.
www.aclu.org/religion/gen/19918prs20050804.html
The ACLU of Nevada (2005) defended the free exercise rights and free speech rights of evangelical Christians to preach on the sidewalks of the Strip in Las Vegas.
http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.as...53&nav=15MVaB2T
* When a defamation lawsuit was brought to silence an evangelical scholar who monitored the fundraising practices of several ministries and their leaders, the ACLU of Southern California (2005) filed a lawsuit under California's anti-SLAPP statute to have the defamation suit thrown out.
www.aclu-sc.org/News/Releases/2005/101364/
The ACLU of Oregon (2005) filed suit on behalf of high school basketball players from an Adventist school against the Oregon School Activities Association, which administers competitive athletic and artistic competitions in Oregon high schools. The ACLU argued that the Adventist basketball players who had made it to the state tournament should not be required to play tournament games on Saturday, their Sabbath.
http://www.aclu-or.org/litigation/p...cademy/PAA.html
* With the help of the ACLU of Pennsylvania, Greater Pittsburgh Chapter (2004), the Church Army, an Episcopal social service group, was able to keep its program of feeding the homeless running. The ACLU convinced the County Health Department to reverse a decision that meals served to homeless people in a church must be cooked on the premises, as opposed to in individual homes. Had the decision not been reversed, the ministry would have been forced to cease the program.
* The ACLU of Pennsylvania (2004) settled a lawsuit on behalf of Second Baptist Church of Homestead, a predominantly African-American church that had been denied a zoning permit to operate in a church building purchased by a white congregation. The occupancy permit was awarded in 2002, and in 2004, the Borough of West Mifflin agreed to pay damages and compensate the church for its loses.
http://www.post-gazette.com/neigh_s...uitsouth2p2.asp
http://www.post-gazette.com/localne...6aclureg6p6.asp
www.post-gazette.com/pg/04111/303298.stm
* The ACLU of Virginia (2004) threatened to file suit against the Fredericksburg-Stafford Park Authority after it enacted an unconstitutional policy prohibiting religious activities in the park. The Park Manager had prohibited a minister from the Cornerstone Baptist Church from conducting baptisms in the park, but under pressure from the ACLU the park revoked the prohibition and allowed the minister to conduct the baptisms.
http://www.aclu.org/religion/discri...rs20040603.html
* The ACLU of Nebraska (2004) defended a Presbyterian church from forced eviction under the city of Lincoln's zoning laws. The ACLU of Nebraska also challenged Lincoln ordinances requiring religious organizations to meet safety standards not imposed on non-religious groups.
www.aclu.org/religion/frb/16347prs20040811.html
* The ACLU of Virginia (2004) told the city of Richmond that it would file suit unless Richmond officials reconsidered their decision to close a Sunday meal program for the homeless at a local church because of zoning violations. "[T]he right of a church to perform a core function of its religious mission," the ACLU wrote, "is protected by the free exercise clause of the First Amendment and the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993."
web.archive.org/ web/20040229092223/http:/archive.aclu.org/news/w091196b.html
The ACLU of Nevada (2004) represented a Mormon high school student, Kim Jacobs, who school authorities suspended and then attempted to expel for not complying with the school dress code and wearing T-shirts with religious messages. Jacobs won a preliminary victory in court where the judge ruled the school could not expel her for not complying with the dress code.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/s.../517482854.html
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/s.../517853141.html
The ACLU of Washington (2004) reached a favorable settlement on behalf of Donald Ausderau, a Christian minister, who wanted to preach to the public and distribute leaflets on the sidewalks around a downtown bus station in Spokane, WA.
www.aclu-wa.org/detail.cfm?id=57
* The ACLU of Michigan (2004) represented Abby Moler, a student at Sterling Stevenson High School, whose yearbook entry, a Bible verse, was deleted because of its religious content. A settlement was reached under which the school placed a sticker with Moler's original entry in the yearbooks and agreed not to censor students' yearbook entries based on their religious or political viewpoints in the future.
www.aclu.org/religion/gen/16093prs20031222.html
The ACLU of Virginia (2004) interceded with local authorities on behalf of Baptist preachers who were refused permission to perform baptisms in the river in Falmouth Waterside Park in Stafford County.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/w...anguage=printer
http://www.aclu.org/ReligiousLibert...?ID=15897&c=141
The Indiana Civil Liberties Union (2004) filed suit against the city of Scottsburg for its repeated threats of arrest and/or citation against members of the Old Paths Baptist Church who held demonstrations regarding various subjects dealing with their religious beliefs.
http://www.aclu.org/freespeech/prot...rs20040716.html
Holly Buckets! OK, well, I was in on this conversation when it was related to PHOTOGRAPHY. One hallmark about FM which makes it the best forum out there is that all discussions have photography in common. Hopefully we can stay on point. 
Edited on Sep 04, 2008 at 02:14 AM
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Blocking traffic and disrupting peoples lives isn't a very good way to get the public on your side.... to me anyway