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Fred Miranda Offline Admin Image Upload: On p.1 #1 · WA 307 vote closed Thanks to everyone who participated in the WA 307! (Theme 'Repetition') Voting for this assignment is closed. Congratulations to the top 5 winners! Thanks for being a part of the Weekly Assignments.  Final vote status  Votes result CDalessandro, Gasoline pumps 0 0% 44lefty, Repetiton 0 0% nlamendo, What is it? 1 0% stanj, Skip! 4 2% Mike Deuce, Flying Repetition! 1 0% Djenkins, Caution 1 0% seechelle, Stormtroopers 3 1% Yakim Peled, Coil 29 13% botw, Barracks 0 0% Jim Schemel, Lower East Side Restaurant 1 0% DaveNitsche, Heart Attack 22 10% Bill Sutherland, 100 cans of baked beans 8 4% Alex Conrath, Cycling Power 1 0% Patricia March, Train Tracks 7 3% jban99, Nature Vs Man Made Repetitions… 17 8% FJR1, Guernseys 11 5% James Markus, Ebony & Ivory 27 12% warp10, One after Another 8 4% smurphy, Mirror Image 0 0% CelticAngel, Back To School 3 1% ruuskan, Repetition is the key ... 13 6% wmcmiii, mirror mirror on the wall 4 2% i814u2, Jungle Gym 2 1% Dudley Rose, Queen Anne's Lace 1 0% Bruce Jones, Windows 26 12% eager, Trashy Romance 4 2% DChester, Arlington 8 4% Benedictine, Factory Wall 0 0% Chad Schulz, Back and Forth Time 0 0% Strad, Lotsa Fiddles 18 8% Matteise, Upward Bound 0 0% Photon, Berries, leaves, legs, lines 0 0% Total Votes 220 100% « Gasoline pumps » by CDalessandro 0 vote « Repetiton » by 44lefty 0 vote « What is it? » by nlamendo 1 vote « Skip! » by stanj 4 votes « Flying Repetition! » by Mike Deuce 1 vote « Caution » by Djenkins 1 vote « Stormtroopers » by seechelle 3 votes « Coil » by Yakim Peled 29 votes « Barracks » by botw 0 vote « Lower East Side Restaurant » by Jim Schemel 1 vote « Heart Attack » by DaveNitsche 22 votes « 100 cans of baked beans » by Bill Sutherland 8 votes « Cycling Power » by Alex Conrath 1 vote « Train Tracks » by Patricia March 7 votes « Nature Vs Man Made Repetitions… » by jban99 17 votes « Guernseys » by FJR1 11 votes « Ebony & Ivory » by James Markus 27 votes « One after Another » by warp10 8 votes « Mirror Image » by smurphy 0 vote « Back To School » by CelticAngel 3 votes « Repetition is the key ... » by ruuskan 13 votes « mirror mirror on the wall » by wmcmiii 4 votes « Jungle Gym » by i814u2 2 votes « Queen Anne's Lace » by Dudley Rose 1 vote « Windows » by Bruce Jones 26 votes « Trashy Romance » by eager 4 votes « Arlington » by DChester 8 votes « Factory Wall » by Benedictine 0 vote « Back and Forth Time » by Chad Schulz 0 vote « Lotsa Fiddles » by Strad 18 votes « Upward Bound » by Matteise 0 vote « Berries, leaves, legs, lines » by Photon 0 vote Aug 27, 2008 at 01:18 PM

Fred Miranda Offline Admin Image Upload: On p.1 #2 · WA 307 vote closed Hi everyone! Thanks for using the new voting system. The one we tried last week proved to be complicated and time-consuming for members to use. I'm confident that the new method (current one) is much simpler, fair and easier to use. As you choose your favorite entry, a poll will display the "Current results" to you. All the best, Fred Edited on Aug 28, 2008 at 01:56 AM Aug 27, 2008 at 05:23 PM

garyroach Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #3 · WA 307 vote closed Sorry to see that we cannot vote for more than one. I think voting for the top three is a good idea. (If there is a top three.) But, i do prefer the "old" way to view each entry instead of waiting for a window to open. Aug 27, 2008 at 05:58 PM

Fred Miranda Offline Admin Image Upload: On p.1 #4 · WA 307 vote closed Hi Gary, Thanks for your feedback. Although, this could be implemented (Choose your top 3 - instead of your favorite), I'm not sure if this is what most members would like to see as it would be more time consuming for them. Regarding the thumbnails. It's necessary to have thumbs instead of full-size images because the number of participants always grow from time to time. It would take a long time for all 640px images to load every time we visit the voting thread. (We are now allowing 'all' entries to be voted) Fred Edited on Aug 28, 2008 at 02:23 AM Aug 27, 2008 at 09:23 PM

shinysun Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #5 · WA 307 vote closed Hey Fred, I for one am happy with this new system, makes sense to me and we could only vote for one before so I see no problem going back to that! Aug 28, 2008 at 08:41 AM

FJR1 Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #6 · WA 307 vote closed Fred--You are a master of truly listening to feedback. Thank you for streamlining the process.--Frank Aug 28, 2008 at 11:35 AM

suse Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #7 · WA 307 vote closed I think I preferred the previous rating system. It can be hard to just pick one shot, and picking a few shots to rate seemed a lot fairer. I'm not sure why it was more time consuming? If someone only wanted to pick one shot to rate its no different to this system? Aug 28, 2008 at 06:56 PM

Fred Miranda Offline Admin Image Upload: On p.1 #8 · WA 307 vote closed suse wrote: I think I preferred the previous rating system. It can be hard to just pick one shot, and picking a few shots to rate seemed a lot fairer. Participants who contacted me, expressed their dislike for the previous rating system... The choice of rating system is always polarizing! The previous system was actually not as fair as the current one. The reason is because 90% of voters rated only one (1) entry. The other 8% rated from 2 to 5 entries and only about 2% of the voters rated most entries. The problem here is that once you only vote for a couple entries you basically give 0 points to the others. At the end, it should not change the results too much but it's definitely not 'fairer'. I'm not sure why it was more time consuming? If someone only wanted to pick one shot to rate its no different to this system? For the system to be fair and consistent, members should rate all entries (And that would not happen). On top of that, the previous system was not very intuitive: Members who didn't rate all entries, got the impression that their vote didn't weight much. This could discourage them from participating in the voting process. The current 'Vote for your favorite' system fixed this issue. The results are fair because members have equal participation. At the end, we will have the top 5 strongest images for sure. -- This system has been used on our assignments for the past 7 years! The only possible issue is when we have a tie (Which is rare). So, the entry submitted first wins. In the future, I may consider the 'Vote for your top 3 entries' idea. It could be the best of both worlds. At this point, let's allow the current voting system to run its course for a couple of months. Thanks for your feedback as always! Edited on Aug 29, 2008 at 04:26 AM Aug 29, 2008 at 12:22 AM

suse Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #9 · WA 307 vote closed Fred Miranda wrote: The problem here is that once you only vote for a couple entries you basically give 0 points to the others. Whats wrong with that?! If there are 4 shots that a voter thinks are equally great, artistically speaking, it doesn't seem fair to only pick one!? That's when group democracy kicks in. One vote/first past the post is never fair. Proportional representation, imho, is far better (and no, to any Brits out there, I 'aint a Lib Dem!) Aug 29, 2008 at 11:13 PM

sevan pulurian Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #10 · WA 307 vote closed Wow Fred i really like how the image is displayed the the choose me underneath it. Makes it much easier to vote when you can see all the entries to compare. Aug 30, 2008 at 06:26 AM

Yakim Peled Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #11 · WA 307 vote closed 1. FWIW, I like the current one better. 2. I really like the "Choose me" instead of "Vote for this picture" line.... Happy shooting, Yakim. Aug 30, 2008 at 11:36 AM

louis fusco Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #12 · WA 307 vote closed fred, i like to be able to read the title as it can often make a picture. Aug 30, 2008 at 01:37 PM

Kingdon Hawes Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #13 · WA 307 vote closed Fred, I like the new voting system. Aug 31, 2008 at 02:15 PM

Dannett Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #14 · WA 307 vote closed A full size preview on hover would make it perfect. Daniel Sep 01, 2008 at 02:14 AM

Philly Rains Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #15 · WA 307 vote closed LOVE this! Great changes, and congratulations to all the 'contestants'! Fred, thanks, as always, for your hard work. You do so much to make this a fair competition, and we know you can't make everyone happy, but you sure do work yourself to death to make it the best it can be. GREAT JOB!! Sep 01, 2008 at 03:57 AM

Fred Miranda Offline Admin Image Upload: On p.1 #16 · WA 307 vote closed louis fusco wrote: fred, i like to be able to read the title as it can often make a picture. That makes sense. Thanks for your suggestion. Thumbs will be shown with their respective titles before your vote. Sep 01, 2008 at 04:31 AM

Fred Miranda Offline Admin Image Upload: On p.1 #17 · WA 307 vote closed Kingdon Hawes wrote: Fred, I like the new voting system. Great! Your participation is appreciated. Philly Rains wrote: LOVE this! Great changes, and congratulations to all the 'contestants'! Fred, thanks, as always, for your hard work. You do so much to make this a fair competition, and we know you can't make everyone happy, but you sure do work yourself to death to make it the best it can be. GREAT JOB!! I'm glad you liked it Philly. We have been missing you around here! Edited on Sep 01, 2008 at 04:35 AM Sep 01, 2008 at 04:33 AM

Djenkins Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #18 · WA 307 vote closed Thanks for being flexible Fred :-) Sep 01, 2008 at 04:14 PM

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