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Archive 2008 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L

  
 
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p.1 #1 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


Question for the group...I'm starting to invest in some better lenses. Recently purchased the Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0 L IS USM Lens (fantastic!) and am now debating between the 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. 24-70mm f/2.8 L. I have a crummy 18-55mm kit lens and am trying to decide between getting a good wide angle first or going with the mid-range and bagging the cheapie kit lens. Thoughts?


Mar 27, 2008 at 09:58 PM
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p.1 #2 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


I take it you've got a 1.6 crop, if you're using a 18-55. Generally, you know what is better for you, by looking at what focal lengths you use the most. Personally, I find the extra reach more important. I take it also you're not looking at the 17-55 because.... you might go full frame? If so, when. Because 24 is pretty wide full frame.


Mar 27, 2008 at 10:03 PM
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p.1 #3 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


I am going FF eventually, but want to invest in some good glass first and ride out the potential MKIII issues I keep hearing about. I actually just pulled the trigger on Adorama's website on the 16-35 II. I really enjoy landscape shooting and figure this will give me what I need.


Mar 27, 2008 at 10:05 PM
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p.1 #4 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


I'd be curious to see how they compare in the overlap region. From what many have said the 16-35 II is at it's weakest in the 24-35 region and is no better than the mk I. it seems to have been optimised for the 16-24 FL. I'd expect the 24-70 to be better in the 24-35 range, but would love to see proof.


Mar 27, 2008 at 11:04 PM
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p.1 #5 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


I have both on my 20D. I got the 24-70 first and loved it but it was never wide enough for indoor shots.
I got the 16-35II and I have to say it's my most used lens. I never had the Mk 1 version so I can't compare but the Mk 2 is as good for me as the 24-70.
Nice colours, contrast and great bokeh, super fast focusing and a lot lighter than the 24-70. The pop-up flash is rendered less useful ( I never use it for anything more than fill anyway) as the 16-35's 82mm's of stomping "L" lense leaves a shadow.
That aside I am keeping my 24-70 for FF, I'll see if I get more use out of it then.

I'd go 16-35II on a crop, plus when you do go FF you have an excellent UWA. It's win-win!



Mar 27, 2008 at 11:14 PM
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p.1 #6 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L

Just the title gives me a headache considering the big difference btw the two



Mar 27, 2008 at 11:23 PM
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p.1 #7 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


Pixel Perfect wrote:
I'd be curious to see how they compare in the overlap region.... but would love to see proof.


Check this > http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=412&Camera=9&Sample=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0&LensComp=101&CameraComp=9&SampleComp=0&FLI=2&API=0



Mar 27, 2008 at 11:34 PM
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p.1 #8 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


the 24-70 is a classic lens used by many pros for top grade work--if you can fine the you tube of annie leb. shooting the queen of england, you will note that is the lens she used. the images she (and her photoshop tech) produced are just amazing. the 16-35 II is also outstanding and great for photo-journalistic style shoot as well as travel. each has its place and that is not the same place. i recently shot the 16-35 II on a 1ds Mk3 and at large resolution, the images are stunning. for what i do, a 16-35, 70-200 and 300 or 400 cover 99% of my needs. but if i need to do some portrait work, the 24-70 can work like a charm.


Mar 27, 2008 at 11:43 PM
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p.1 #9 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


for landscape I'd think the 17-40 would be a better bet. Sharper and no need for speed with landscapes.


Mar 28, 2008 at 12:16 AM
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p.1 #10 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


pipspeak wrote:
for landscape I'd think the 17-40 would be a better bet. Sharper and no need for speed with landscapes.


Not really, The 16-35II's contrast is far more better, so much more detail in the shadow. Color is more WOW than the 17-40. For me the 16-35II is a world better than the 17-40.



Mar 28, 2008 at 06:55 AM
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p.1 #11 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


the 16-35mm f2.8 II is an awesome lens, i'm sure you'll enjoy it. the 24-70mm lens is good too, but there's no use comparing a WA lenses to a standard lens.


Mar 28, 2008 at 11:41 AM
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p.1 #12 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


I have had the 16-35 for several years and it has been far and away the most used lens I have. I do not have the 70-200 f/4 but I see it is not as large or heavy as the 70-200 (4.4" vs. 6.8", 1.4 lbs. vs. 1.7 lbs.),

The 16-35 is an excellent all around lens and I have found I rarely put on another lens when traveling. I especially like it for the low light situations that one seems to come upon when on vacation. Since I really dislike direct flash photography, it has been a real pleasure to use and have never had any regrets despite its high price.



Mar 28, 2008 at 03:22 PM
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p.1 #13 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


Let me be the one to say: welcome to our forum with lots of EOSfun!

You didn't mention portraiture or close focus photography, reporter style documentaries or event photography. If that is important for you the 24-70 is the best allround glass. A 24-70 maybe the allrounder, but I find that is especially true for the 1.3 bodies. That's why you'll see so many pros working with that lens on their workhorse 1D camera.

But since you mentioned the love for landscape photography, on a 1.6 crop body the 16-35 is a better choice for the purposes you mentioned. The 16-35 is reasonably wide lens on a crop body, but even not too much. The 10-20 is the real wide lens if you want that in landscaping. Whenever you'll go full frame the 16-35 will be the invaluable super wide lens you want. On your current body it will be acting like a normal wide lens until normal perspective range.

Whatever you choose both are great pieces of optics. You won't regret any choice, but be sure it's the range you want. You could eventually rent both lenses for a weekend or a day to find out what is important for you and what fits your needs best. Some local dealers offer a refund of the rental if you buy the lens of your choice.




Mar 28, 2008 at 04:19 PM
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p.1 #14 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


I have the 24-70 and use it for my WA stuff. I am shooting on a both 1.6 and 1.3 crops.
I have some money that is burning a hole in my pocket right now, so I am trying to figure out whether to buy the 16-35 or the 50 or 85 1.2 also looking at the 135 2.0

Hi my name is Barry...and I am an addict. I havent bought any equipment for 67 days 12 hours and 10 minutes. Anyone else in this club?




Mar 28, 2008 at 05:48 PM
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p.1 #15 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


AngusM wrote:
Check this > http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=412&Camera=9&Sample=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0&LensComp=101&CameraComp=9&SampleComp=0&FLI=2&API=0


Thanks Angus.



Mar 29, 2008 at 05:43 AM
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p.1 #16 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


Pixel Perfect wrote:
Thanks Angus.

Those charts are not that accurate especially how the the Canon 70-200 f/4 out resolves the Canon 200 1.8 ......... not



Mar 29, 2008 at 09:15 AM
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p.1 #17 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


I have all three and love them. My first "L" was a 70-200 f/4.0 non-IS. It replaced a 70-300 IS and was a huge step up. Next was a 17-40. Nice lens but didn't blow my socks off. Third was the 24-70. Fantastic lens. The sharpness, color, and contrast from this lens is incredible. Replaced the 70-200 with the IS version, and IMHO there is a noticeable improvement. Just replaced the 17-40 with the 16-35II and now have three with the image quality of the 24-70. Couldn't be more happy with this trio and use the 24-70 the most (60% ?).

You can't go wrong with either and the cost is similar. The 16-35II is the latest design and there has been some talk () of an update for the 24-70, so I would probably go with the 16-35 first.



Mar 29, 2008 at 09:53 AM
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p.1 #18 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


rbranan wrote:
the 24-70 is a classic lens used by many pros for top grade work--if you can fine the you tube of annie leb. shooting the queen of england, you will note that is the lens she used. the images she (and her photoshop tech) produced are just amazing. the 16-35 II is also outstanding and great for photo-journalistic style shoot as well as travel. each has its place and that is not the same place. i recently shot the 16-35 II on a 1ds Mk3 and at large resolution, the images are stunning. for what i do, a 16-35, 70-200
...Show more

I can't find that video. You got the link?



Mar 30, 2008 at 01:24 AM
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p.1 #19 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


The first question you need to ask yourself is: How do I like the range of my 18-55? Do I find it useful and suitable for my needs? Do I constantly crave for a wider lens? Do I constantly crave for a longer lens?

As you are well covered from 70mm and up I think that a lens that ends with 70mm is a bit redundant. The 35-70 range is not that big while the 16-24 difference certainly is. Thus, the 16-35 would be my personal pick.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.




Mar 30, 2008 at 01:35 AM
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p.1 #20 · EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II vs. EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L


pipspeak wrote:
for landscape I'd think the 17-40 would be a better bet. Sharper and no need for speed with landscapes.


The 17-40 is not a better lens than the 16-35 II. The only reason to buy it would be the lower price...........



Mar 30, 2008 at 08:51 AM
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